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Old 02-19-2005, 07:18 AM
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hey guys, just wondering about the spring air retracts, through out this thread you seem to mention 101's , whats the diff between 101's and 701's does anybody know?
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:19 PM
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The 100's are bored for 3/16" wire legs

The 700's are bored for 3/8" oleo struts

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Old 02-19-2005, 03:52 PM
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ah ok..thanks Don
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Old 02-21-2005, 01:24 PM
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SNOOP,
I'M WORKING ON THE FUSELAGE AND FINISHED THE WINGS. MY QUESTION IS AFTER I INSTALLED THE WINGS AND THEN SLID IN THE STAB, THE STAB APPEARS TO HAVE ABOUT -2 TO -3 DEGREES OF INCEDENCE IN RELATION TO THE WINGS. IS THIS CORRECT?
I LOANED MY INCEDENCE UNIT TO A FRIEND

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Old 02-21-2005, 01:39 PM
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Hi Picard1

I am about the same point as you in my build and see the same as you with the stab ---it looks to be about -2 to -3 and would think that this may off set the engine mount which looks to be at about -2 down thrust to keep the shape of the nose.

Snoop maybe you can give us the official word on the the stab and down thrust of the engine
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:11 PM
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Your right. I wouldn't be surprised if you need down trim on the elevators for level flight.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:46 PM
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I took an inventory of my remaining parts today and I ran across to formers marked B1, B2. Since I have lost my cd, I've been building the su-27 from the online manual. I have'nt been able to find any reference to these formers. HELP!!!

Also, if anyone could burn a copy and send it to me I would be happy to reimburse your expenses

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Old 02-21-2005, 09:31 PM
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B1 and B2 are used to build the tail boom box on the aft end between the exhaust pipes.
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:33 PM
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Those are for that stupid looking long tail cone out the back end between the exhausts

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I took an inventory of my remaining parts today and I ran across to formers marked B1, B2. Since I have lost my cd, I've been building the su-27 from the online manual. I have'nt been able to find any reference to these formers. HELP!!!

Also, if anyone could burn a copy and send it to me I would be happy to reimburse your expenses

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Old 02-22-2005, 11:54 AM
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thanks Snoop and BLade

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:55 PM
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You know Snoop I think I will leave the Tail stinger off when I finish covering.... if it looks good that way then I will leave it off ...If not I can always add it on after ...then knock it off when I land nose high (grin)
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:29 PM
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Hey Snoop !! can you give me the dimensions for that stand that you use to hold the SU? If you are to improve on the stand for the SU what would you do? The stand looks like it will hold my MIG as well. oh and a parts list would be great

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Here is a pic I had taken a while back ... Wing tip to Stab with about 2deg down thrust for the engine.

any comments out there?
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:46 AM
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Just looks like some friendly wash-out to me.
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:16 PM
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Looks fine to me...
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Old 03-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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You can't judge the engine angle of this plane like this because of the "Cobra" shaped fuse.... it just looks weird sitting on the board like that.

If you want to be sure, dig out your incidence meter...
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Its just simple 1 inch PVC with appropriate connections. its in a "X" pattern with a couple long pieces to connect each end. There is one trick to it though. Don't make it a perfect X. If you make the bottome side a bit longer, it automaticall makes it a bit wider. This is good so that the plane does not tip ove on its side so easy. I use that little thing on every plane I have from my little ones up to the WM GS P51.


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Hey Snoop !! can you give me the dimensions for that stand that you use to hold the SU? If you are to improve on the stand for the SU what would you do? The stand looks like it will hold my MIG as well. oh and a parts list would be great

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Old 03-02-2005, 12:10 AM
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Thanks Snoop ... I am going to make one this weekend being that I found out that my retracts are going to be another 2 1/2 weeks ... seems that Spring Air had some hard times with mother nature and are behind in manufacturing them.
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:40 AM
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Well I am still waiting for my retracts so got to thinking how I was going to make a little better aft hatches ...sooooo... from the aft hatch former that glues to F8 and some left over scraps and a little extra 1/4" here is what I have come up with ...let me know what you think

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I LIKE IT!!!

So much better than plastic.

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Old 03-05-2005, 12:46 AM
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Thanks Don ...(Slow Poke) ...hahahahaha good one
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Old 03-05-2005, 11:43 PM
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Hey everyone,

Today was the first flight of my SU-27 Flanker. It was very stable all around. looks BAD A-- with the wheels up! Heres a few more pics!

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Old 03-06-2005, 12:06 AM
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hey jetpilot, thats a really good looking Flanker..looks awesome
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Congratulations on your flight jetpilotrich !! BTW do you have Flaperon control? if so did you get to try them out and are they effective?
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:25 AM
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No flaperons and no electronic mixing of any kind were used. going to do some more flying today. will report back!

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