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Old 01-11-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Saito 30 fourstroke

Hi all, I have a beautiful Satio 30 and would like to use it on something fast ( I know kind of an oxymoron), I was thinking a Lanier shrike 10, do you think it would work, or am I just wasting my time?If yes what prop would you recomend? I bought it for a Waco 30, but the kit was a junk, so now I'm stuck with a nice engine and nothing to put it on. I really enjoy small fast planes, but everything I can find for it, is very slow and will fly scale speeds:-( Right now I have a ME 109 (25 size) with a TT36 heli engine on it, pretty fast, I just bought a Diamond dust with a Jett 40, I hoping this cooks, but haven't flown it yet.

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Old 01-11-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

The DD with the Jett-40 will knock your socks off compared to the ME 109

The Saito-30 IS a waste of time on a speed ship! (Sorry-) On a small airplane you need RPM's not torque-
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

I'm not sure 'Saito 30' and 'Speed Plane' really belong in the same sentence. How about the House of Balsa P-51 Mustang (43" span)for the Saito? It's not really a speed plane, but it's a great combination that will still move out.
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:52 PM
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

What do you want for it? Pm me.[8D]
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

This is the first plane that came to my mind.....
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Is that from FBD's hangar, or Razors?
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:30 AM
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

Welcome Jeremy.....

As noted..... the Saito 30 may not be the best choice for anything fast. However, propped right, you can get an aircraft to move along at a decent clip. Some of the smaller .30 size "pattern" planes are fairly slick... and can move along.

My suggestion for the engine....
I built a Rich Uravich Extra 3.25 from plans years ago. Powered by an OS .26FS it is an excellent airplane. Turns a 9x6 about 10K rpm. Full throttle, its fairly quick... however somewhat limited vertical. Excellent little aerobatic plane. The size of it makes it so you can leave it assembled most of the time. I just toss it in the car assembled. The plane is nearly 10 years old now, and its still one of my favorites. (I even flew it at an IMAC meet once did ok in freestyle afterwards too)

You can get plans/part for it from [link=http://www.richuravitch.com/p&p.htm]richuravich.com[/link] or Lanier sells a kit version of it. If you build one, do what you can to get some weight out of it. Mine weighs 2.7 lbs.

Anyway... its a fun plane... if you are looking for a home for that .30, it would work very will in the little Extra.

Enjoy the Jett and DD. If you have any questions, there are pleanty of folks here who can help.

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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

I had one of the Lanier versions w/ a MECCOA[:'(] .28. My impression was it is waaay squirrly on the ground and had a nasty high speed tip stall. The stall eventually led to it's demise.
My son loved that little thing tho so I had to get another one, just havn't built it yet.
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

From what I am told, the Lanier version weighs a bit more than it probably should. Wing loading is important... thus my caution on keeping the weight down.

The way the wing is designed (progressive airfoil from semi sym at root to clark y at tip) and with the built-in washout... I find it had outstanding stability at all speeds.

Mine is very well behaved on the ground and in the air. Does some of the best lomchvechks ever The only thing I have a problem with is landing..... tends to float in ground effect.
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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

Hey Jeremy,

Do a search for the "Fascination 15 ARF". I just sold the one I had to a Buddy for $50, and I threw in a Magnum 25! They're very reasonably priced, and would be a great candidate for your Saito.

My Son-n-Law still has his, I can ask him if he's like to sell it, if your interested. Pic below....

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I thought that was about what you guys would say about my Satio, that Fascination 15 looks like a possible candidate. I've been looking for something fun to put it in, I'm tired of all the slow doggy planes out there that would best fit this engine. Its just a great running engine I would hate to get rid of it. As far as the DD goes, I may have some questions down the road, I haven't flown anything quite like it before, I've never run a Jett engine before either. I hear they're both top notch, but I don't have any experience with either one, also most of the guys at my field are older gentlemen, they've never seen this kind of stuff before, and they can't SEE my fast planes now, never mind a DD.

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Default RE: Saito 30 fourstroke

Man, anyone who can't SEE a DD ought to take up indoor rubber FF!
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