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Old 05-16-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Robart/springair for F16

I just purchased the Cermark F16 propjet and I am having a heck of a time finding the Robart equivalent of the Spring air #705. It recommends the spring air #705. I would like to try the new Robart economy series retracts, but how do I find the exact replacement of the SA 705's? We all know how dissappointing it is to have to mail things back and forth and wait for UPS, so I would like to get it right on the first shipment. Any ideas?

BTW: Cermark's customer service is unmatched. I received emails and phone calls after ordering with those guys!
Old 05-16-2005, 11:53 PM
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I would go with the spring airs. The mechanicals are throw-aways, and even the
Robart HD nose wheel mechanical is weak. []

I'm sure the next poster will tell you different....oh well. []

FBD.
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

SpringAirs are great! Why don't you just by them?
Old 05-17-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

Thanks for the reply. I was referring to the pneumatic Robarts. I thought the new series was air, maybe I am wrong. But here is the delimma. I have an air tank/lines/valves,etc. All I need are the retracts and Spring air only sells the complete system (my understanding,anyway). I only need the actual gear mechanics. I agree with you 100%, I will never use mechanical retracts if I can get away with it!
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

....someone must have an extra set of cylinders/mounts in the shack.

See what shakes out. I had a Cermark F-16 with mech's on it....look in the
dictionary under "junk"....there's a picture of them. [sm=stupid.gif]

I put an OS 1.08 FSR in the plane, and it would not taxi....the nose wheel
just flopped around like a wet noodle. It looked funny....but I was not amused. []

I ended up with a straight non-retractable nose wheel strut. (honest) [X(]

FBD.
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Old 05-17-2005, 12:34 AM
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Thats pretty funny. I have certainly had my share as well! I cannot believe the difference in the older F16 and the new ones. Looks like a completely different model. What speed did you get from that set-up?
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The new ones look great....I once described my F-16 as a telephone pole
with stabilizers on it.

I got it from a friend who had a new OS .91 FX....with Macs mini-pipe on it.
I wouldn't even get out of it's own way. The only RPM's we could get out of
it was with a 13-6....no kidding....what a dog.

Long story short....he pulled the engine and sold it....gave me the plane for some
repairs I did for him on another plane. The 1.08 overpowered the so called .60
sized plane....it went maybe 110 or so, but the cheap plastic fake air scoop
buffeted real bad. I had the replacement fiberglass piece....but it had been
sitting for too long, and was too warped to put on the plane. [X(]

I pulled the 1.08, and gave the plane away....

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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16


ORIGINAL: lear31A

But here is the delimma. I have an air tank/lines/valves,etc. All I need are the retracts and Spring air only sells the complete system (my understanding,anyway). I only need the actual gear mechanics.

Take a look at their price list... you can get every item in their inventory seperately.
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

Hi Guys

Anyone have any photos of there Cermark F16 they can share?

Does the tune pipe now fit inside the Air Intake and exit out the back?

Whats it Fly like?

Ian
Old 05-17-2005, 10:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: Flyjets

Hi Guys

Anyone have any photos of there Cermark F16 they can share?

Does the tune pipe now fit inside the Air Intake and exit out the back?

Whats it Fly like?

Ian
No, the pipe does not and can not run through the entire fuselage.

I looked it over fairly completely at Toledo and spoke with the folks at Cermark. The model they have on display has a header and mini-pipe that terminate just inside of the inlet, prior to the nose gear.

Bob
Old 05-17-2005, 10:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: Flyjets

Hi Guys

Anyone have any photos of there Cermark F16 they can share?

Does the tune pipe now fit inside the Air Intake and exit out the back?

Whats it Fly like?

Ian
I will receive mine on Fri and I will do a complete review with tons of pics. I am installing an OS91FX.
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Take a look at their price list... you can get every item in their inventory seperately.
I am not sure what site you are looking at. I have looked at several and you cannot buy them seperately. I even called a few. They said that the actual mechanisms' would cost the same and all the tank/lines,etc. are ust thrown in b/c they dont cost that much. Try to figure that one out??
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

http://www.retracts.com/

Click on "Price list"....
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

I ordered the Robarts paid for 2nd day shipping and when they did not show up I called to find out that they are on back order... I cancelled the order. called spring air and had mine the next day. The 705s were a perfect fit in the new F-16
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

That is great information! I am sure I will have some questions for you if you dont mind. Thanks
Old 05-22-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

Ya fire away. I will try to post pictures later today
Old 05-22-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

I would love to see a pic of an up-close main gear shot. Thanks

I put a pic or two in my gallery.
Old 06-01-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

are the springair 705's rotating retracts? looking at the (lear31a) pics can't figure out how the mains fold in...?

can anyone explain please? I have a set of B&D pneumatic trike (see link below) and I was wondering if I could use those...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LX7110&P=ML

thanks for the info,
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

The gear retract forward and do not rotate. They are mounted at an angle and simply retract forward. Those gear you have will fit ( I have an old set that I considered using). I elected not to because I want stronger wire legs.
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

What Lear said, you might just have to enlarge the cutouts a little. I did
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Default RE: Robart/springair for F16

OK, I get it..... thanks guys!

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