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Old 06-04-2005, 08:25 AM
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Amazing how difficult it is to slow down this thing !!!

http://213.84.42.244:8087/paulraaf/Nemesis_20-3.avi

http://213.84.42.244:8087/paulraaf/Nemesis.wmv
Old 06-04-2005, 08:38 AM
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Its a glider with lipo set up I believe. But dang ......shrike eat your heart out !
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Great video. Really shows the difference between good aerodynamics and flying a toilet seat lid.
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They are not LiPo's, and it is not a glider.

It is a purpose built F5D electric pylon racing aircraft.

You can find the plane on: http://home.planet.nl/~zandv055/frames.htm

It costs 350 Euro's, and the guy who builds them can't keep up with demand.
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OMG, that was electric?????? [X(]

Just changed my opinion entirely! Maybe there is hope after all........
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OMG, that was electric??????
I would love to have a glow engine starting at a switch depression
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They are not LiPo's, and it is not a glider
Call it what you want but any aircraft not designed to ROG, in my book, is a glider. And I just checked the site there is no mention of what power source is being used. And I would imagine in order to get the lightest weight and most power LIPOS would have to be used .
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a 2 KW motor and 18 GP3300 cells
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Well, the rest of the world calls it a pylon racing plane.

While LiPo's have come a long way and have opened up new areas in the worlds of electrics, they are not suited for this kind of abuse... These things are pulling close to 100 amps these days, so LiPo's are out...
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a 2 KW motor and 18 GP3300 cells
If so then this plane must be a beast ! Plus it has to weigh over 4 pounds just to support the 2 pounds of batteries.
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It doesn't use 18 cells... it uses 7 GP3300 or 9 GP2200 NiMH cells depending on the motor used...

It weighs about 2.2 pounds max...
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You seem to know allot about this sailplane why don't you post all of the specs for us slow folks.
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Come on Fiend, it has a motor. It's not a sailplane. It's a motor-glider.
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Come on Fiend, it has a motor. It's not a sailplane. It's a motor-glider.
Yea I guess I use love flying my 2meter Aspire glider. and my stratus 1600, and especially my Freedom flier. Then I feel in love with the R O G.
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F5D is an FAI racing class... The rules state the you can use a maximum of 7 sub-C size cells, or any number of smaller cells, as long as the battery weight doesn't exceed 425 grams. Minimum RTF airframe weight is 1000 grams. Wingloading must not exceed 65 grams/square decimeter.

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So you really don't know what he is using in the video? .
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He is using a Hacker B40 FAI motor and 9 GP2200 cells and an APC 5x5 prop
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ORIGINAL: Rudeboy

He is using a Hacker B40 FAI motor and 9 GP2200 cells and an APC 5x5 prop
Any idea what rpm that combination will turn?
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Odd tthat on the "Tip/Building" page he stated 18 cells and a 2 KW motor. At 100 amps that would be around 1800 Watts. Nine cells could still be close to a KW, any idea of the efficiency?
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Hi Guys,

That's my plane in the video. It's the prototype of the Nemesis F5D pylonracer. Setup in the 20-3 video was a Hacker B40 FAI 9 cell motor on 9 GP2200 cells. Prop was an APC 5x5. On the ground this thing pulls about 110-120 Amps turning more than 30 Krpm. Speed is about 170 MPH (Without diving of course ) on a good day.

It's officially not a sailplane but as you can see it glides very well

Paul
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Paulus, Very nicely done airplane and techniques for building it. Can you share design information like airfoil, aspect ratio, balance, etc. Your milling of the plugs is also very interesting. Did you build/make the hardware/software or is it commerically available to the average modeller? Thanks!
Old 06-05-2005, 11:14 AM
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Highplains,

I'm not the producer of the plane. Just the test pilot

Here's a link to a picture with detailed info:
[link]http://www.f5d.org/modelle/nemesis.gif[/link]

A lot of info about building the first Nemesis and the Belgian design "Jibe" can be found here:
[link]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270446[/link]

These two ships share the same fuselages with different wing designs.

Paul


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paulus,

Thanks for the info. My problem with electrics in the past has been performance and sound. Your plane has overcome both of these shortcomings.
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Thanks for the web site Paulus. I just read through the 31 pages, my eyes are shot now, I'm going to go fill the whirlpool bath and think about it for a while (with the eyes closed). I agree with Mike that electrics really have something to offer these days, and they will continue to improve. Some of the nano-technology is about to move into the battery problems. I read an article the other day on some new li-po that will really improve the energy density and current capibility from what is available today.

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