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THE NEW CERMARK F-16 BUILD IT BETTER, STRONGER, AND FASTER!!!

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Old 09-03-2012, 03:23 PM
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I've wanted one of the F-18's for SEVERAL YEARS now !
I've all but given up on hoping he'd order some !
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:16 PM
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I've been thinking of scratch building a new fuselage. I have my original that I may be able to pull apart and copy the formers.
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:28 AM
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Recieved it yesterday! I'm not sure which revision it is. I didn't think to look in the fuse for a number before re-boxing it but it is in thunderbird colors, it came with air retracts and the instruction book is identified as revision 4/06. Assembly will be on hold for a couple of weeks until i re-assemble another project i made some modifications to but i will look in the fuse for a revision number if there is one. It came with the cockpit pan and a canopy but no canopy frame so i will need to find one or fabricate one. Hopefully i can look back through the thread and find some good pics to use as a guide. I don't do scale competition, i build my models to fly so i'm sure i can create one that will work well enough. If anyone happens to have one laying around that would be nice, even from a crash that i could use to make a plug for a new one. It's a great looking plane. I'm looking forward to building it and getting in the air. I have a brand new Jett 90 BSE ready to put in it so i can imagine it will be fun to fly and pretty quick.

If it helps identify the version number i also noticed in the manual that it states "now features a fully finished canopy/frame assembly. This assembly is held in place with a spring latch." Also it states "The tail cone is now held in place with a single screw."
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:13 AM
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Check the CG specification. I had version 3 and it was off by one inch!
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:27 AM
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Check the CG specification. I had version 3 and it was off by one inch!
The manual shows 8-1/2 to 9" behind the leading edge at the side of the fuselage.
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Old 09-08-2012, 05:22 AM
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Unless there has been a change to the model, that spec is still wrong. If it is true, I cannot believe after they have been told by numerous people that it's really 7 1/2", that they still publish the old CG. I know Cermark monitors this thread so maybe someone will pipe up and confirm the spec. I discuss this on my website - http://ricktressler.com/id48.html

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Old 09-08-2012, 09:13 AM
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If i recall correctly, version 3 also came with air-up spring down retracts, version 2 had air-up air-down.

Let me know if you want me to take real close pics of my version 3 cockpit.

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Old 09-08-2012, 10:06 AM
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Air retracts were optional ($100) at the time I bought mine about 3+ years ago.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:31 AM
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If i recall correctly, version 3 also came with air-up spring down retracts, version 2 had air-up air-down.

Let me know if you want me to take real close pics of my version 3 cockpit.

Doug.
While i failed to closely inspect the retracts i am fairly certain that they were air-up and air-down. The manual also shows that setup. I won't cut the box open again to verify that but i am quite sure they were au-ad. Also, while dry fitting the components i did notice that the front alignment post on the vertical stab (i think it was the front one, the one without the locking screw) was about an inch short of the hole it is supposed to fit into. That is no problem, i will simply have to drill another hole and maybe reinforce the area a little but that may help indicate which version it is. This kit was put together from spare parts and small issues like that are no problem. I was quite happy and grateful that i was even able to get it. Everything else appears to be a perfect match. Any pics of the cockpit assembly would be very much appreciated.
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:23 PM
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Here you go....hope that helps.

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Old 09-09-2012, 01:21 AM
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Perfect! Thanks Doug.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:56 AM
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My Version two retracts are air up spring down.

Looking for a canopy. I'm thinking of trying to make them.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:05 AM
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My Version two retracts are air up spring down.

Looking for a canopy. I'm thinking of trying to make them.
Actually, i have a canopy and the cockpit pan. I do not have the canopy frame. That is what i need. If you make some i would be happy to take one off your hands.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:12 AM
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The frame is painted on the inside. Mine had a cockpit and the Canopy. I'm looking for a Canopy for Version two. I'm thinking of taking the one I have and creating a mold of it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:29 AM
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The original retracts that CERMARK supplied and recommended were Air up & Spring down.

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Old 09-11-2012, 02:11 AM
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I've had a couple of version 3's and they were both air up and air down retracts...
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:28 AM
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I just had to cut the box open again and look, i have air up-air down units. They are sharp looking though! I used au-ad Robarts for years and don't remember ever doing a belly landing due to lg failure. They are nice looking retracts. I'm sure they will work just fine. All i need to do is come up with a canopy frame to get this thing built. I won't be starting on it for at least a couple of weeks so i have time to either find one or fabricate one by then.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:09 AM
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With regard to landing gear installation, be advised, the mounting plates are inherently weak. Reinforcement with additional plywood is strongly suggested. I published a build log and a detailed procedure I came up with to strengthen that part of the aircraft.

It is located at www.ricktressler.com.

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Old 09-11-2012, 04:14 AM
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Follow up to my last...

Www.ricktressler.com without the period after the com works. On my previous posting, the message included the period which makes the URL appear invalid.

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Old 09-11-2012, 04:15 AM
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Thanks Rick, i already have your website saved. I'll be reading through it when i get ready to build.
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My Cermark F-18 and F-16 V3 prop jets both came with air up/air down retracts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 02:00 AM
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Other project is complete and will be flying in a couple of hours, hopefully. Now i can start on the F-16. Looking forward to getting this thing built. I'll probably start on it today when i return from the field.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:41 AM
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OK, the fun begins. Looking back in the thread Steven Chao noted that version 3 had a latch type canopy. That's mine so i will move on assuming that i have version 3.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:53 AM
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OK, retract mounts beefed up and gear installed. I am working on the stabilators now. The aluminum tubes are quite tight in the bushings. I certainly will not do anything to bore them out so the only option i know of is to lubricate them a bit. Any suggestions here? I have no doubt that my servos will be growling if i don't do something to loosen them up a little. Also, anyone made the stabilators functional and was it worth it? My Futaba 10C can make them operational.
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Hi ft, I would use some lube spray designed for garage doors. Not the oil based ones the ones used on the rubber seals to slide better. Can't remember the name of it... v.
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