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Old 10-13-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

Does anyone know if a 90 -2 cycle will be to big for this plane ?
The box says 60 to 75 ?

I am gathering my accesories and I already have a 90 super tiger 2 stroke .
Also , any info on this plane would be great , its been sitting in my hanger for about 8 or 9 years and I have the opportunity to get it built so I think I am going for it .
I was going to sell it and buy an AKA SU 27 lasor cut kit .
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Old 10-13-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

A .90 is not too big..Go for it. I have one with a O.S. .91 with a jett muffler.

it has been clocked at 118 mph.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:13 PM
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Thanks your plane looks great !!! , ANy suggestions on the set up ?
I am going for the 90 , spring air retracts and light weight wheels .
Thanks again for any suggestions you can add on the build
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:17 PM
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I have mine set up with Hobbico mechanical retracts from Tower. They hold up well. I added a Eurokit strut in the front. This plane flies like it is on rails...very smooth with a gret glide path. You have to fly this plane in....land it like a real jet nose up and let it settle in with power.

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Old 10-14-2005, 08:03 AM
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

This one has a Jett SJ-90L engine up front.

Its a big plane. It needs power up front. Struturally, no problems - just do a good job on the control linkages.

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Old 10-14-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

I have mine with a MVVS .77 with tuned quiet pipe and Spring air retracts and love it. I plan on building my AKM model the same way. I just can't afford the Jett so the MVVS is a cheaper alternative.
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

very nice plane Bob.

What prop are you swinging. I change between an 11x9 and 11x10.

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That one has a 12x6 prop up front.
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BDrew thanks for the advice and agian great pics .
Bob very nice gear doors , can you elaborate on how you set them up ?

I am glad I started this forum , I thought this plane was dead and burried !!!
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Anyone put flaps on this plane or set the airlerons to work as flaps ?
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:13 PM
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

My F-14 has the ST90 with a full length Macs quiet tuned pipe, 12x9 APC, 12,500 rpm, 10% nitro and 20 % oil, D & B spring retracts, flaperons, 8 pounds.

Clocked at 130 MPH straight and level, I will not prop for more speed, my last F-14 experienced wing flutter causing the wing to self-destruct. I was using an 11x10 prop and coming out of a dive. Instant lawn dart!

The flaperons help a lot to get this 8 pound plane smoothly off our grass runway.
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Default RE: Great planes F14 Tomcat -engine suggestion

I'll bite here on the Eurokit struts. I have looked them over and much less than a set of Robarts. You like them?





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I have mine set up with Hobbico mechanical retracts from Tower. They hold up well. I added a Eurokit strut in the front. This plane flies like it is on rails...very smooth with a gret glide path. You have to fly this plane in....land it like a real jet nose up and let it settle in with power.

Good Luck
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Old 10-15-2005, 06:27 AM
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Thanks TM3, thing sounds like a rocket !!!!
I definity want to set it up with falperons .
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:23 AM
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I only use the front strut. Yes, I think they are strong. I purchased the front one for $30.00. Actully, 2 struts come in a set for $30.00

Much cheaper than Robarts....with a bigger selection.
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Thats a great price , I just bought some used good spring air tri gear set on RCU , now I will get the Euro struts , sounds like a $60 investment vs $140 for 4 robo struts
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BDrew thanks for the advice and agian great pics .
Bob very nice gear doors , can you elaborate on how you set them up ?

I am glad I started this forum , I thought this plane was dead and burried !!!
This one is not my plane. Built by Alan Baskin. I will look in my notes to see if he sent me gear door info
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Is there an easy link to the Euro Struts , thanks
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hey BDREW,

What kit is that F-16 in your pic? It looks great and can ya also give a little info on its setup? Thanks
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I am glad I started this forum , I thought this plane was dead and burried !!!
You're glad?

I am thrilled. My Father-in-law won one of these completed (used) at a raffle i had no idea what/who it was. Now i know and hopefully you all can answer a few questions.
1. What size engine?
2. Control throws? High and Low.
3. Should i do flaperons? or simple elevator and ailerons
4. Thanks!

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Thanks Bob
Notes I had on the gear doors... mini servos, linkages, and an electronic sequencer
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Cool ideas Bob .
LUK IN Maryland , I promise will pull out the plans and get all of that info for you , as far as engine I am going with a 90 2 stroke
as far as Flaperons , that is what I am going to do , I like lamding with flaps , but with Flaperons you must be certain that everything is lined up perfactly
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LDM..

Any info on Throws and CG?
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Hi,

Regarding the Eurokit [link=http://www.eurokit.us/custompage.asp?page=1]STRUTS[/link]. I purchased a pair of mains, and a nose strut to use with a set of [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX7110&P=ML]B&D[/link] Retracts for my GP Patriot project which I have yet to begin.. I was trying to setup some cheap pneumatic gear for this plane, so I went with the B&D's for about $83, and $30 for the main Eurokit struts, and like $21 for the single steerable nose gear strut, (which looks the same as the mains, but has a tiller connection which I found I will not really need since the B&D's have a steering arm already attached to the nose block.) So all total, less than $150. I am a bit worried about the weight. Looks like the entire retract setup is going to come in at just over 1 lb. I'm hoping that won't be too much for the Patriot. If I ever get around to building it I'll let everyone know how they hold up on my grass field.

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Hello fellas,

I was surfing through and was surpised to see my F-14. I haven't been in the hobby for awhile since going back to school. Just don't have the play funds anymore since leaving the Army. To tell you a little about the plane, I built it about four years ago while stationed overseas and really have only flown it a handful of times. I decided to modify it with everything I wanted on it, retracts, gear doors and flaps. The retracts are robart operated with an electronic sequencer on two air valves. The air cylinders and hinges used for the mains I purchased through BVM along with the sequencer. I built the gear doors using ply after cutting out the fulselage area and using that as a guide. I've never weighed the plane so I can't give you an accurate number but there a significant weight penalty for having all the goodies added. I was willing, though, to sacrifice speed for looks and it definately looks cool watching it operate. It surprisingly still has quite a bit of speed. The only place I've flown it was in Colorado Springs so the added weight and high altitude required constant power upon landing. I since moved back to Texas but haven't flown it to see if a lower altitude would give it any better glide, which wasn't much in Colorado. Here are some pics of the setup. If you have any questions about it feel free to email me. ABaskin21@aol.com
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