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Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

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Old 11-07-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

I was wondering if anybody here knows which one is faster? I was going to get the toni but i have seen the alley cat and it looks good, I am thinking of using a os91 or gms 1.20 so if you all have any input i would greatly appreaciate it.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default RE: Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

Alley Cat looks to be much more aerodynamic.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:10 AM
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I am bit biased however, Alley Cat is would be much faster.

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Old 11-09-2005, 11:45 AM
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Unbiased- AllyCat Indeed![sm=thumbup.gif]
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:04 PM
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Who sells the alleycat, does anyone have a link.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:06 PM
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http://www.cermark.com/Merchant2/mer...egory_Code=AAA
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default RE: Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

Im not sure you are going to the a specific answer to your question - the AlleyCat has only been available for a short time. There are few in the air.

But from an analyicial standpoint, I agree with the others that the AC will indeed be quicker. As usual, it will depend a great deal on the engine and prop selection.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:49 AM
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i have a little toni with a jett 90. plane is very fast and has plenty of power with that engine and a 11x8 prop. i re schemed it to a dale jr plane. A littler reinforcement is needed at usual spots: servo bay, landing block, fuel tank bulk. I also did not use any of the hardware. servo linkages are all heavy duty ball link. the extensions on the muffler are from jett.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:34 PM
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:48 PM
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HEY BUD DUDE WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE COOL DECALS AND PILOT FOR YOUR PLANE. IS THE BOTTOM OF YOURE WING CHECKERED? HERE IS SOME PICS OF MINE . I USED THE DUB 90 WITH REAR EXHAUST. VERY CLEAN THIS WAY AND YES YOU BETTER WEAR EAR PLUGS. ITS FUNNY HOW ARE PLANES LOOK SO MUCH A LIKE HA HA WHATS UP BRO CHECK OUT MY DIRECT CONNECTIONS F-20 WITH A DUB 50
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:44 PM
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Default RE: Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

Wow, I really like to little toni you guys have, I was looking into the jet motors and think i may go that route. Will the toni you have with the jet 90 do 140 level or will it only go that fast out of a dive. I watched a few videos with one with a g-90 and the other a four stroke but in the videos they dont look any faster than any other typical sport plane.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:04 PM
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Gidusko, where are those vids ?
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Old 11-10-2005, 07:12 PM
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yes as u can see in the pic there is white checkers on the bottom. at least i still have my wing undamaged and it still flies lol. later bro.
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:28 AM
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Hey mine is the clipped wing version .So I know its faster than yours. Actually the tree jumped right out in front of my plane and ripped my wing right off. LOL
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:37 AM
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Gidusko, If you want to go fast you better go DUB. You can mess around with other engines, but by the time you figure out what pipe to run you will end up spending just as much money as you would if you had just bought the DUB in the first place. There is no guess work with DUB engines. Just bolt on and go fast. Also it is hard to tell from video how fast a plane is, but run them side by side in person and you will see the difference. Just remember Dub engines like the high RPM I see a lot of guys over propping them.and they don't get the full potential out of them and they are burning them up.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default RE: Little Toni or Cermark Alley Cat?

I have to go with the Toni on this one, I am currently building mine and I really enjoy the looking at the above Toni's, Very nice work indeed! [8D]
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:26 PM
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the videos are on the tower hobbies website and also by this websight http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=417. thank you for all of your help guys.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:28 PM
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What is "DUB" ? I realize it's an engine but whats the name of the company and where can you get them? How are they compared to Jett?
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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" Dub " as in Dub Jett. Yes, Jett is the gentleman's last name. Super nice guy to deal with. Here's the link to the website. [link=http://www.jettengineering.com/]Jett Engineering[/link] Click on the " about " tab to get a bit of background info.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:53 PM
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Dub Jett is his name. www.jettengineering.com Get your wallet ready. You want the best, your going to pay for it. I have two of them and for what I expect of the plane, I got what I paid for.



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What is "DUB" ? I realize it's an engine but whats the name of the company and where can you get them? How are they compared to Jett?
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Looks like we posted about the same time here.

I just broke in my first Jett last week. Will probably be Spring before it gets to fly. No doubt it will be worth the wait.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:35 PM
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Is there any chance that my Jett 50 FIRE w/7.5cc pipe would sufficiently power the Alley Cat?
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:56 PM
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'REALLY FAST"? Sorry to burst your bubbles, but the Little Tony with Jett 90L is not a fast airframe, period, end. Had same, 8 flights and sold it cheap. Its a good sports flyer as it is intended, rolls, loops and snaps well, even knife edges with a little coupeling, very easy to land. GP has a good one here as a sports airframe. Yessss, it will grove around a pylon well and not scrub off a lot of speed, there just is not a lot to scrub! There is lots of room in the engine bay, perhaps a OS or Webra 160 could bring it to life, but a 90, no way. To be fair, I bought it to race with in our local club open class, needed a larger airplane that I could see better. Bottom line, my little home brew 40" winged Yellow Jacket powered by a 35, abit a Jett 35 ate it up so bad I wanted to cry. Mabey a Moki 210? The AC has got to be much faster IF the wing has not been goofed up. SORRY
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where is the pics of your planes. seen lots of posts. i want to see the pic of your quarter scale racer that is going to beat my little toni. Im hitting 14,500 rpms on the ground with a 9 pitch prop. Figure that out; um ill help u 123mph theoretical speed at 14,500rpms, and has been clocked by radar at 125. so fast i would say fast for a quarter scale plane.
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ORIGINAL: hooaa

Is there any chance that my Jett 50 FIRE w/7.5cc pipe would sufficiently power the Alley Cat?
ummmmmmmmm...... not sure... its a fairly big plane.

my instincts tell me, yes it will fly - set the pipe a bit long, 11x6 prop - but you may not be happy with it.

Id love to do a full product review on the plane. So many possibilities here.

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