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Old 01-10-2006, 01:19 PM
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Default Laser arrow tiger force

Anyone, have any experience with this plane? how fast can it go with the average .46?

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Old 01-11-2006, 02:04 AM
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I built the Laser Arrow kit and powered it with the K&B 6.5 F.I.R.E. I estimate that it flew about 125-130 mph. It was great fun to fly. The thick cord keeps it from going much faster. The axial roll rate was fantastic. A Jett 50 F.I.R.E. would make a perfect choice for it. An average .46 might put it in the 115 mph range, still fun as a sport plane.
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:04 PM
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Hooha;

Does the Lazer arrow have stock landing gear ?
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Old 01-11-2006, 05:43 PM
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The stock Lazer Arrow kit (now discontinued) had no landing gear - just a flat belly on which I placed some nylon strip. I fly on grass.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:18 PM
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I have this plane powered by a .32 Webra w/pipe and it flies rather fast. I estimate around 115 while trying not to exaggerate. It's as fast as my Lanier Shrike with a Jett 50, so you know it's no slouch.

No landing gear, but there is a solid balsa fin on the bottom to protect the prop when landing and gives a handle for launching.

I like it!
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Hay Art:

How about postilng a pic of this airplane and possibly a web site?
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:13 AM
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It's exactly like the picture in the first post above. The only difference is the engine and pipe. My pipe is a FlyQuiet.com double-cone tuned muffler attached to a 4" header onto a side exhaust .32 Webra. It makes a very light and agile flyer. I think an ideal package would be the new Jett.32 they just came out with. A Jett in the Front Induuction Rear Exhaust (FIRE) configuration would be about the ulitmate. Another good thing about Jett is they will send you a combo engine with pipe already tuned and a couple of props. Ready to install at a reasonable price.
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Old 04-23-2006, 02:50 PM
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My Laser Arrow has the following performance with a West 50 engine

Prop Max RPM Max Speed km/h Max Speed miles/h
APC 9x7 19710 226 140
APC 9x8 ? 237 147
APC 9x9 17730 233 145
APC 8x9 20026 244 152

Everything measured with Eagle Tree Systems flight data recorder. I'm trying out the west engine in the
Laser Arrow in preparation for the MagnumR. I must say, the Laser arrow handles very well, it is a delight to fly
even though the speed is quite frightening. Launch, even with the 8x9 it is no problem.
But it IS fast, and the first landing is A challenge, even if the low-speed handling is very good.
I havn't broken a prop yet, although the engine refuse to stop with the throtle CLOSED.

Definetly worth its price!

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I see this chineese clone of the Laser Arrow a lot on ebay,
seller is charging 50% more than actual shipping cost.
seller wont ship on my FED-EX label ( refusess to give up his profit on shipping).

it is a stolen design...therefore I wont buy one
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:55 AM
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HI,

I see this chineese clone of the Laser Arrow a lot on ebay,
seller is charging 50% more than actual shipping cost.
seller wont ship on my FED-EX label ( refusess to give up his profit on shipping).

heres something a lot of guys selling and buying on ebay dont know,
the true cost of selling on ebay!!
item price with shipping total £3.00
sell for ten days 4 items(most cost affective) .50p
ebay charge 5.25% of the overall invoice total .16p
paypal charge 3.75% .12p
paypal fixed charge per transaction .20p
total cost to sell a £3.00 item on ebay £0.98p
that equates to 32.5%
the trick is you dont notice the cost cos you get your total first!!
i have watched numpty's on ebay undercutting to the point where they are actually paying to sell,

for every up there is a down!!
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Old 05-22-2006, 06:32 AM
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ORIGINAL: fadmuker


for every up there is a down!!


Especially in our hobby unless a tree gets in the way!
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:18 PM
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undercutting to the point where they are actually paying to sell
That is called a Ford car.. Ford has lost money on every car it has sold for many many years.. They make it all back on trucks and fleet vehicles.
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:59 PM
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On ebay for $79 bucks.

Yea, or nay?
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Default RE: Laser arrow tiger force

Thats a decent price,

IMEX-Protech gets $160 for the plane

http://imex-protechusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=34

(those are the same folks I purchased my F-15 from as well - nice guys)
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Default RE: Laser arrow tiger force

Once again an example of the market for a high speed delta. The chord is indeed thick on these L.A.'a ---

I would like to see a composite delta with the servos and fuel tank under the skin for less drag (and looks).

Anybody gonna make one?
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:42 PM
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I just compared the specs of this Laser to the Modeltech Mach Racer. Very similar in specification. The Mach is $89. Slightly heavier, but that is with the landing gear and wheels. Hmmmmm.............. [sm=idea.gif]
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Flyboy Dave has the mach Racer in the box at home... It looked pretty good actually- Landing gear is for cowards by the way!

KMOT- You missed the Whiplash maiden! Mark gave me a perfect launch and It was a blast (Margaritas)... Kev asked me, "do you land with the engine off" and I said "no, you dead-stick it so you don't break a prop."(Margaritas) I killed the engine that instant (Margaritas) and dead-sticked it.... Worked out great with a smooth landing (Margaritas) but wow! My judgement (Margaritas) on that deadstick going down-wind 23MPH somehow seemed off (Margaritas).

I already put my Jett-50 on the Whip since I need to do some work to the Patriot anyway---

Cheers!
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Yeah, Maggie has a way of diverting my attention too.
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I have just aquired one of these, and like the rest of my fleet I have electified it. It now sports a 300 watt brushless motor with a 9"x6 APCe and a 66 amp 3 cell LiPo battery pack. Only thing is, the guy I bought it off ommitted to mark the C of G. Can any one help me please.
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56 mm in front of the skid. That's from the book.
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ORIGINAL: Razor-RCU

Landing gear is for cowards by the way!

Would ya feel the same way if you were sitting in a real plane??
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