Extreme Speed Prop Planes Discuss the need for speed with fast prop planes (Screamin Demon, Diamond Dust, Shrikes or any REAL sound breakin'''' plane)

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Old 02-20-2006, 03:56 PM
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Hi People I am thinking to buy an Little tony and I want to know if a Magnum 91 is sufficient for that airplane With an Jet muffler or Pitts mufflers
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:55 PM
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it will fly it. thats about it. should just be a all around good sport flier with that engine.
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Old 02-20-2006, 11:34 PM
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aavilas:
This is my bud that claimed his tony doing 140 with a Jett 9l after I sold mine after 4 flights, and has given me a hard time ever since. If you are looking for speed with a 91, forget it, just toooo much frontal area and wing designed for sport flying. That being said, the tony is a good looking sports airframe that will do most anything you asked of it including hanging on the prop for a decent time. I would have stuck a 120 to 160 in the thing and woke it up, but club rules frowned on anything over 60, so sold it cheap. Wished it back several times just to stuff a real motor in the thlng and kick some our club smartys tail. I would not do that to the Buddude cause he would catch me right after I chewed the tail off his off with ease and that 14" prop. If you can buy it reasonable, its a good looking and flying airplane, and faster than most. I was tryilng to create a larger club killer racer which was just not to be! ENJOY
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Old 02-21-2006, 02:22 PM
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With Pitts or jet muffler what make the best performes for Magnum or Webra .91

im not money for buying another engines for little tony
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:47 PM
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You want the Jett stream performance muffler (tuned pipe) or the performance specialities tuned muffler system. Both are almost identical, jett may be a few buck cheaper. Check um out at www.jettengineering.com or www.psp.com. May have the performance specialities site wrong. The OS 91 and your motor should be the same?
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What kind of numbers might we expect from the Toni on a Jett 120?
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for speed not very good. that engine i dont think will go over 10,000 rpms. i think the 1.20 is in the 9000-9500 range. sometines bigger is not always better. im sure bob27 will chime in on this
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For the expected performance of a Magnum 91 , you may as well install a 60 and save some money. It will fly it and okay I might add but if it is all out speed you want, not going to happen. Get a Jett 90. One guy here has that combo. I think its "Hattened" or something like that.
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for speed not very good. that engine i dont think will go over 10,000 rpms. i think the 1.20 is in the 9000-9500 range. sometines bigger is not always better. im sure bob27 will chime in on this
Yep, exactly. You wouldnt want the 120L on the nose here. It will go over 10K a bit, but its not an rpm engine. Designed for aerobatics, scale use with big props.

The best Jett has to offer for the Toni is the SJ-90LX-T or BSE-90LX-T.
LX configuration (high timed) with the Toni/Minnow muffler extension set.
Install an APC 11x8, 11x9 or 12x7, 12x8 and hang on.
(the T engine turns about 400 rpm less than the LX without extensions, but will carry more prop - unloads great in the air)

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Hi People I am thinking to buy an Little tony and I want to know if a Magnum 91 is sufficient for that airplane With an Jet muffler or Pitts mufflers
It will fly Ok with the stock muffler as long as you don't over prop it. It is not a high RPM
engine, but will give respectable performance with a 12-7 or 12-8 Zinger prop for speed.

I have one on a big Delta airplane, and the performance is good. Forget the 13-6, and
14-6 (and larger) props. You must let the engine rev, and avoid overheating. You
need to run a fuel with some castor oil in it as well....it will run hot on synthetic only
fuel/oil.

FBD.


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I have one with a saito 91 on it...My first prop was a mistake 14*8 way to slow, I put a 13*8 on it was alittle bit faster and fun to fly. But Im gonna go with a os 91, I know it not the same as a JETT 90 but o well my wallet wont feel the hurt as much...I'll let you know how fast it goes when I get the engine in this week and fly it this coming up weekend...
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