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Old 12-20-2002, 11:46 AM
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Hi guys

I am looking for the root and wing tip perfil and wingspan for a Bill Evans Simitar.
I just have the fuse and want to build the plane.
Merry Xmas for all!
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Old 12-20-2002, 07:23 PM
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Pedro:

Long live Bill Evans and his designs. I have three of them right now.

I have the Desperado and the 1/2 A Scimitar plans, and I have made jpg files of the root and tip templates. I can send them to you as attachments if you email me your email address. I can't attach files to the RCU email.
When I scanned the profiles I scanned a ruler with them, if the size gets wrong due to inaccuracies of the scanner/printer.

The Desperado wings are 25 inches long, for each half wing. They recommend a 2.0 inch anhedral. I built mine that way, and it is VERY VERY difficult to understand the orientation of the airplane. The short fuselage, and the anhedral make it look like it's inverted. You can also build it flat or with some dihedral.
It has Jett 50 with a 9x8 APC prop, and it is VERY FAST.

The 1/2A Scimitar is 24 inches long, each half wing, and has a 1 1/8 inch dihedral for each tip.
I built this 1/2 A , but I cut 4 inches off each root before I joined them. It was too slow with an .09, so I extended the nose and put in an OS 32 FSR. It's fast now, but it doesn't glide at all.

I also have a Shooter, which is my junk airplane. It has a piped Rossi 45 and it's fairly fast.

None of them are as fast as my 1/2 A Taperwing with a Shuriken .061 with a minipipe. Unfortunately, It has a tail.

Here is a pic of the Desperado
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Here's my Shooter
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Here's my 1/2 A Scimitar
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Here's my Taperwing
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De-kitter:
My Simitar is the Simitar 540.
I trowed away a damage wing some years ago,and
Murphy´s law,can not find the plans.
Thank you for your answer.
I love this plane,I want to put it into the air again,hope to be lucky to find any information to
built the wing again.
Merry Xmas!
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Old 12-20-2002, 08:49 PM
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Default Evans wings..

I had a Skywalker years ago...tried the sliding tray mixer and got flutter, tried the Ace Christy mixer and couldn't get enough throw. This was before I had a computer radio. Great plane otherwise, and very pretty. Looked a lot like de-kitters Shooter.. Piped Rossi 60 powered..I'll post a pic in this thread later...
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pulquijet.....

Most all of the Bill Evans wings are very much alike. I believe you could use either the Desperado or the small Scimitar wing profiles on your Scimitar 540. The smaller one is a bit thinner, so if you are going fast, add a few strips of carbon fiber under the sheeting. If the fuse does not match exactly, shim it or cut it.

The balance is not critical, just start off with about 1/8 inch of "up" in each aileron, and fly it.

The offer still stands, let me know if you want the jpg files of the root and tip.
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de-kitter :
It is great, send me the root and wing tip profiles,and I will do the new wing.
Thank you.
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A pic of my Skywalker..
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Hi Chuck :
Nice plane! I do think Bill used the same wing for the Simitar 540.
Did you have the plan set?
I will need the wing tip and root profile and wingspan.
Can you e-mail it for me or fax it?
Let me know.
All the best,
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I sold that plane years ago, and I don't have anything left but that picture and one other picture..Sorry I can't help you out.
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Chuck : Is O.K, thank you anyway.
Merry Xmas!
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de-kitter, I'd like the airfoil files for the Scimitars if you'd be so kind.

I've always wanted a Shooter or Desperado.

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Hi friends...Thank to Frank I do have a copy of the Simitar 540 plans, only have to enlarge to build my wing.
Thank to all for help and interest.
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!
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My simitar design. 61" span, forward swept 5 degrees
.25 Norvel, Fox 45-50 quiet muffler. Flys great almost can't be heard at half throttle. Next one will have a v-tail and K & B 6.5
rear exhaust, Should be good for some grins. Will send picture as soon as I figure out how to use less bytes.
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I bought a plane several years ago which was a prototype, glass fuse and a 72" span no tail -plain feathers, tri gear, it turns out it is a take off of your shooter, it only took 3 years two figure it out,Not a simitar like i thought, Thanks
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Fastflash :
Thank you for your input.
I do receive a copy of the Simitar540 and the magazine article, and I am now cutting the wings.
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I'm in the process right now of building my 2nd Simitar "Deuce". It's one of the earlier designs, has 54" span and takes a 40 sixe 2c engine. I have the plans, and could scan and email you the tip and root rib drawings.

I'm looking for someone to cut the wing cores for me. If you (or anyone reading this post) know of someone who could cut 'em and ship quickly, send 'em my way. They can reply to this post, or email me at: airport@willardrcfunflyers.com

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Most of Evans' wings were published in RC Modeler n\magazine. Go to the RCM Store and click on the plans section. You have to scroll down, looking for his name, but you can find the plans. It used to list on the plans where you could buy the foam cores.

http://www.rcmmagazine.com/e/env/000...ore-plans.html
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Ed -

I can't get the RCM Plans Page to come up - must need something I don't have to open it.

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Try
www.rcmmagazine.com,
then go to the store, then plans.

I copied that one from my address line and sometimes they don't cross over very well.
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Ed -

Got to the RCM Plans page. There were 4 different Simitars listed, but not the "Deuce". I'm making the templates now, and will cut my own cores as soon as I can find someone with a good hot wire cutter.

I built one of these a few years ago, and it was a dream to fly. Only got 2 or 3 flights though before a bad Xmitter (HiTec Flash 4) totaled it for me.

Appreciate your help though - keep 'em flying!!!

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Dick :
If I am not wrong, I do think the article and plans on the Deuce,was published at Model Aviation magazine.
Hope this help.
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Good Evening Everyone

I have many of Bill Evans plans in the 8.5 x 11 size. I also have the Simitar 540 full size plans.

As well I have plans of my own.

Attached is a photo of a modified Bill Evans with an ASP 91. This is a super flying airplane. It will leap off the ground when full throttle applied and continue climbing. It is one of the better flying wings for upright and inverted spins.

I have built and flown many forward swept wings. I find them very stable and very aerobatic.

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