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Old 10-19-2006, 10:31 AM
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Default sleek.Top Gun Fast Forward FFW ARF

Anyone got one ?

looks sleek

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/pro...lleryImage=1#G


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Old 10-19-2006, 10:46 AM
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Nice looking.... appears a bit to look like a Proud Bird

This is the same company labled on the Cermark F-16 if I recall... maybe Cermark will bring it in over here

Ive never seen one here in the US though

Might be fun, but I'd certainly reconsider that landing gear installation - wheels are WAY too far foward - it would bounce like heck on landing.
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:53 PM
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That's a darned good lookin' airplane!! [sm=thumbs_up.gif]
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:46 PM
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Very nice....I bet a Jett 60 would feel right at home on this.....
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Old 10-19-2006, 07:28 PM
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Looks like a pattern plane to me.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:49 AM
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I bought one yesterday - I'm very impressed (so far) - It really looks like it was built for speed, very slim symetrical airofoil foam wings, very rigid construction, proper CA hinges, nice quality accessories, good fibre-glass cowl and spats. Covering all looks good and tight too.
I'm going to fit it up with an Irvine .53, although its a shame to have to chop up that cowl - maybe I can fit the motor inverted. If it goes well then I will fit a purple pipe for more oomph.
Instructions look like they originate from USA (still refers to inches in all the measurements). Also instruction book also refered to model as being manufactured by "Mega Models", anyone know anything about them?
Sadly this is a chistmas present so I can't get my grubby mits on it for a while, but I will post results when it get airborne.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:12 AM
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John, Looks great! But I wonder about the weight: "4.0-4.4 lb (1.8-2.0 kg)" they say, that must be without engine and radio gear ?

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Old 12-08-2006, 05:18 AM
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I have seen them flying in Thailand...where they are made.

A sport plane - not a speed plane.

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Old 12-08-2006, 09:05 AM
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I though that Cermark might bring them into the US market, but I've not heard any details on that. Might not be true.

Fast or not, it looks real nice ! Style is everything.

But I still think that set up properly this thing will be pleanty fast [&:]
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:36 AM
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Ok guys, so what makes it a sport plane rather than a speed plane (other than it might fly better than a brick at less than 100mph). It looks streamlined, it's light, it's small for its engine size, the wing is thin and tapers, so it should be low drag.
I bet it rips the pants of my (now demised) Tigershark, which was just a triangular flat sheet and therefore probably had horrible drag characteristics.
The only draggy bit that I can spot on the "fast forward" is the aeleron hinge gap which allows quite generous (+/- 45 deg movement).
Maybe true speed machines are the ones that don't flutter to pieces at full chat, I guess only time will tell.
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:42 PM
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I contacted Mega models and they wanted around 225.00$ shipped to the U.S. Can someone help me find one for a better price? Maybe in the states?

Thank you, Billy
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: dorset john

Ok guys, so what makes it a sport plane rather than a speed plane (other than it might fly better than a brick at less than 100mph). It looks streamlined, it's light, it's small for its engine size, the wing is thin and tapers, so it should be low drag.
A speed plane sails "forever"... a sport plane does not.

It might look "streamlined", but looking streamlined is not being streamlined! Just the fact that it is not square doesn't mean it is fast...
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Old 12-16-2006, 12:39 AM
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I asked what that was about a week ago here an nobody had a clue
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:22 AM
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I have nearly finished building the "Fast Forward". The general quality of the airframe was very high, neatly interlocking components and good covering.
I decided to use Formula 560 canopy glue for the CA hinges as I was worried that thin CA would leach into the foam wing core and eat it away - the hinges seem strong and flexible. Has anyone else tried this method?

Faults found so far:
Fuel tank backing plate thread stripped.
Supplied control rods were too brittle to safely put in a Z-bend (they all went in the bin).
Built-in aileron control rods were sloppy inboard, they don't appear to be running in a tube - so I inserted hardwood guide slots.
Plasic clevis attachments for aileron control rods were oversize and slipped up and down the rod threads (so in the bin they went).
The lovely cowl had to be massacred to get any motor into it, it was impossible to slide the cowl over any reasonable engine without first splitting the cowl. I would advise replacing the beam engine mounts with a more robust standard mount and installing any engine inverted.
The undercart is very robust aluminium, but a bit too heavy guage for the model size - I will streamline the leading and trailing edges to lose some weight.
Weather permitting, the next report will be the maiden flight.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:13 AM
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Ok, I've now built it and flown it. It goes really well and has good sports characteristics, good axial rolls, and knife edges surprisingly well. Needs a lot of -ve expo to tame the twitcheness - although it was gusting 20+ when I flew it.
I got the Irvine .53 up to top revs on the standard exhaust and 10% nitro with a 9x9 APC. It got there fast, next outing I'll go upto a 10x10 or an 8x10 if it can manage it. It does seem to be low drag and I'm hoping to get some scorching runs out of it soon.
Should be some pictures attached to this message - first shows hardwood inserts needed to stop the slop in the aileron rods.
Also, be warned that the aileron pushrods from the sevo clash with the motor servo, so I had to lower this (a notelet in the box does mention this).
Also I needed a couple of ounces of lead in the tail to get the CofG in the right place, and 1 ounce in one wing tip.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:16 AM
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Looks very nice, although I agree with Bob, I'd mount the landing gear the other way, with the gear slanting towards the rear of the plane, rather than the front.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:08 AM
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Sorry to summon an old thread, but has anyone else built & flown this airframe? Its very cheap and seems to be very fast.

Got a spare Jett 60LX looking for a home, would it fit on this without any spacers?
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:35 PM
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First : thanks liquid_TR for summon this thread , I dont knew that this plane exist until today and I love it ....

dorset john , could you please (if you have it of course ) give information about speed ???

This airplane has a special look to me now I want to know its capacity of speed

btw: this is not a hobbie this is a vice [&:] ( the better vice I think )
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Dorset John Here!
Yes, I still have the Fast-Forward but have been distracted building a Phoenix F-20.
I can compare the two now - and the Fast Forward is a much better plane in all respects except one ..... It gets very small very quickly!!
The wing of the Fast Forward is foam covered veneer and pretty tough - I have performed a few cartwheels and blunted the tips but everything remains intact. This plane really will do 270 degrees of a knife-edge loop (can't do the bottom bit) and slow rolls well. You do need to apply some aileron differential, and this is done on the single servo by using horns 1 & 3 of a six point servo horn (for more up than down).
U/Cart mounting must be re-inforced internaly with another layer of ply and be sure to use epoxy glue or fuel residue will weaken it.
Think very hard about mounting the engine inverted - otherwise you will need to remove most of one side of the lovely cowl.
Bin the U/carriadge - its crap, replace it with a carbon one, and you may want some extra length if you are using a 10x9 prop like me.
Go for a light motor or you will need to pour lead shot into the tail section (to keep it clean externally) - go for as much power as you like, it will handle it - also get your eyeballs buffed, you will need them. Have fun.
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:33 AM
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Hi Guys,

Anyone have the control throws for this as i have seems to have lost mine

Thx in advance for any info
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:06 AM
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from da book....
Aileron Lo: 1/4" up, 1/4"down
Hi: 1/2"....
Elevator Lo: 1/2" up, 1/2" down
Hi: 1"....
Rudder Lo: 1/2" right, 1/2" left
Hi: 1"....
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:26 AM
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Many Thx for the quick reply
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:33 AM
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Sorry to be a pain any suggestion to where the CG is ment to be
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Any US carriers of this plane?

If not, anyone know where I can get one and at what price shipped to the US?

I have lots of .46's laying around and this plane looks great so if the price is right I cant pass it up!
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Also, any link to the carbon gear mentioned?
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