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Old 12-01-2006, 02:04 PM
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any thoughts or suggections ? thanks russm
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Do it!
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thanks revver. i am also interested in what bob brassel thinks about this. russm
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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Shoot, as long as you wear ear, eye, and finger protection he will say "do it" too.
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Might be pushing your luck with that plane. Should move out pretty good for at least one flight.
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:19 PM
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any other planes you boys would suggest ? thanks russm
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:36 PM
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ok... after I typed a nice reply here..... my session timed out !! ARRGGGGG

short answer... there are a few Preditor-II planes flying out there with 60LX power. Many flying with SJ-46 or SJ-50 power. Its a good plane.

One of mine is flying at the moment with the Jett SS40 racing engine on it. No issues.

The plane needs a little bit of TLC when you build it. Rember, this engine has a bit more power than the 428 Q-500 engine (but it idles ) Give some thought to adding tri-stock behind the firewall. Look over the wing hold-down plates well, and ensure the tail is installed properly. I also glue on the hatch, and change the wing and gear mounting bolts to 1/4-20 size. Seal all of the control surfaces.

You will require a bubble-jett slim 6oz fuel tank. Consider the jett-integral q-500 backplate too. Mount the remote needle on the cylinder side of the fuselage/firewall (Add some lumber in the tank area to screw it to).

I have not personally flown my P-II with the 428 engine or a 60LX. Ive flown a few of these birds. Fly well. Ive not witnessed or experienced any structural issues. (I did watch an original version Predator fail though - the PII is different in a number of ways).

The GP Viper is a good plane too. Requires the same attention to details, and to the firewall area. I know Dub and Mike both have flown and raced the Viper with 428 engines up front (with noted attention to detail when building).

Red one here is a Viper, Blue one is a Pred-II (builder chose to go with external tail linkages)

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thanks for the imfo bob. i bought 2 pred 2s last summer and have a 46ax in the first one. it flys very well. the second one is still in the box. i am waiting for shipment of the 60lx. unfortunetly we just recieved 15" of snow up here in n.e. il. again thanks for all the imfo. russm
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snow has not made it here quite yet. It looks like only a few inches at most for us (dodged a bullet...!)

Since you have experience with the pred-II build, I believe you know what to look for and perhaps beef-up.
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What, no safety advice[sm=bananahead.gif]?
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What, no safety advice[sm=bananahead.gif]?
yes, stear into the skid...
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:03 PM
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GO FOR IT!

But inspect and check and add epoxie ass needed to the firewall, wing mounts, landing gear mounts, servo mounts. Just the usual suspects. Go Fast and turn left.

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How about glassing the center section of the wing?

Oh, and wear a flame-retardant suit.
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:34 PM
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the wing comes in 1 piece out of the box. my other pred had a warped wing that caused a real trim problem until it was repaired .
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Lanier should have replaced your wing.

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Old 12-02-2006, 01:15 PM
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i did not know it was warped until after about 5 flights. the plane would not trim . i kept on adding weight to 1 wing. then 1 of the guys at the field took a close look at the wing and discovered the warp. he took it home and repaired it for me. next time i will get it replaced. russm
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1 other thing about the pred is the covering job is flawless wich can not be said about the viper. russm
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What's the part number for the preferred bubble- jett tank for a Viper?

I want to get one for my Sonic too...

How come nobody has said "and don't forget your rubbers"???
(I mean the kind that go on your feet......that's safety advice right? )
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Usually the 6oz slim tank works best ... it will extend back through the F2 bulkhead a bit into the wing area, but that makes it easier to install and remove

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ORIGINAL: bob27s
The plane needs a little bit of TLC when you build it. Rember, this engine has a bit more power than the 428 Q-500 engine (but it idles ) Give some thought to adding tri-stock behind the firewall. Look over the wing hold-down plates well, and ensure the tail is installed properly. I also glue on the hatch, and change the wing and gear mounting bolts to 1/4-20 size. Seal all of the control surfaces.

You will require a bubble-jett slim 6oz fuel tank. Consider the jett-integral q-500 backplate too. Mount the remote needle on the cylinder side of the fuselage/firewall (Add some lumber in the tank area to screw it to).
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Bob, have you counted how many times you've typed out the mods/comments for the Predator II or Viper on this forum??

I think you should compile it into a document just one last time, so it can be posted as a sticky!

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mjd some of us , like me, are still relativly new to the hobby, speed planes, and rcu. we need all the help we can get. where i fly there are only a few guys into speed and not there very often. this is where i get most of my imfo.
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ORIGINAL: russm

mjd some of us , like me, are still relativly new to the hobby, speed planes, and rcu. we need all the help we can get. where i fly there are only a few guys into speed and not there very often. this is where i get most of my imfo.
I know, that's cool. There was no sarcasm in my statement - I was serious about the suggestion to make it a sticky. Because of the nature of this forum, many people are going to dial in and ask a similar question, because Quickie ARF's are a natural for fast flying. I think it is valuable information to have at hand.

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