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Old 11-29-2007, 01:40 AM
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Kyosho Phantom

With repeated victories in the biplane-class, Phantom has dominated all rivals at the famed Reno Air Races. As a biplane, the aggressive form of Phantom has been especially designed for peak air racing performance. The focus on speed and turning control has resulted in a scaled down model that delivers the full-size flying experience. From the start of the 2007 Reno Air Races, the original flying team proudly wears the Kyosho logo as a sign of Kyosho’s sponsorship and the close collaboration in model design. Naturally these graphics are included on the 70-class model as well. The FRP fuselage combines with balsa main and tail wings to realize an optimal lightweight structure. While the wing has a slightly larger leading edge radius than the original plane, it also produces low speed stability and stall characteristics that you wouldn’t expect from a racer. Almost completely pre-built, there aren’t many steps needed for the finishing touches so intermediate to advanced fliers will find themselves airborne in a relatively short period of time. While still regarded as a middle size, there is plenty of power and performance to experience the true excitement of air racing battles.

SKU: 11077B
Available - Dec 3, 2007

Features
• Main components are pre-assembled.
• Complete with basic color scheme.
• Balsa main and tail wings are pre-covered in film.
• Includes latest sponsor decals.
• Unique 12% symmetrical wing type produces both high speeds and stability from large angles of attack.

Included

• Engine mount
• Fuel Tank
• Main Gear
• Rudder connected tail gear
• Decals
• Tires
• Linkage Parts

Required for operation
• 4-channel, 5-servo (2 mini servos for ailerons) R/C system
• 4C52-70, 2C46-50 Engine
• D11 x P6 - D13 x P6 Propeller
• 62mm Spinner
• Fuel, engine starting tools
• Batteries specified for R/C system
• Glue

Technical Data
Length: 1,220mm
Width: 1,264mm
Weight: 2,500g (approx.)
Wing Area: 33.4dm2
Wing Load: 41.5g/dm2 (approx.)
Wing Type: 12% Original synmmetrical
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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Here is a video of the Phantom 70 in the air. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZrxll8ypAs
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:28 PM
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Hi Gearhead,

It's been posted here before and I thought: looks a bit "ugly" so it must fly fast

but seeing the vid you posted; it just looks "ugly"[&:]

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:51 PM
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yep. When I get mine up in the air, It will be fast The video shows it parading around...lol not really flying....

I am thinking of installing a twin satio, or a Vision Hobbies Electric system, with a 6cell battery........I am torn at this point.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:29 AM
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Well I am building one right now. It will be on display at the AMA Convention, and I will take it to Airzona Electric Festival, for a few fun flights.

I am installing an electric motor and LiPo battery. Assembly of this airplane has been smoth so far. Somethings that I like so far are that the Blind nuts are preinstalled for the lower and upper wing bolts. This airplane uses a pull pull system for the rudder, which has gone together smooth for me.

The Aleron servos need to be smaller than a standard servo. Servos that I have found that work best are:
• JR 341
• JR DS368
• Airtronics 94761Z

My local hobby shop was out of all three of these. The airplane dept employee showed me a Hitec wing servo. It is the HS-125mg. This servo did not fit perfect in the wing. I had to shave part of the wood servo mount, which glues to the servo access hatch. After the mod, the servo seems to be working perfect for this airplane.

More to come as I finish this airplane.

I was talking to a guy from Vision Hobbies, and he has a Kyosho Phantom 70 flying, and told me this airplane flys like the Kyosho Kelly F-1. The Kelly F-1 I would swear flys better than most trainer planes on the market. It is just on rails.




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Old 01-07-2008, 04:12 PM
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OK but who sells them??

Kyosho web page was little help.

Email them about a P-40 Warhawk never got a reply. = NO SUPPORT !

Since they cut tower/greatplanes out of the loop I hear and see nothing from them.
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When you get a chance, pm me your area code and zip code, and I can find a shop for you.

I have two hobby shops that come to mind that will have them in stock, •Vision Hobbies (623) 572-8655 in AZ. •Bob's Hobby Center (407) 277-1248
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http://www.aberlecustomaircraft.com/video.html

the full scale one looks like one heck of a ride!
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GREAT FIND!!
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area code 248 also 313 734 517 and 586?

zip code 48380

would like to see one not just internet release photos and data

Kyosho need to get better with customer support
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ORIGINAL: Crazy4Flight

area code 248 also 313 734 517 and 586?

zip code 48380

would like to see one not just internet release photos and data

Kyosho need to get better with customer support
If you actualy sent an email to Kyosho America, you WILL get a responce back.....I would be VERY shocked if you did not. If you like again, PM me your Email, and I will help you, Or better yet call me, 800-716-4518, ask for Tim. I would like to think Kyosho America has the best customer service.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: Crazy4Flight

area code 248 also 313 734 517 and 586?

zip code 48380

would like to see one not just internet release photos and data

Kyosho need to get better with customer support
Ok Crazy4flight, goto Prop Shop Hobbies in Warren, MI. Here is theIR Address:

Prop Shop Hobbies
23326 Van Dyke Ave
Warren MI 48089

Their Phone number is (586) 757-7160, ask for Matt, and let him know Tim from Kyosho sent you. I am sending a Phantom to him right now, so it should be on his shelf Tuesday, Jan 15th. Again, if you have questions call me, or PM me your question. I will be happy to help.

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Wow Tim thats what I call following through, I may need to take a better look at what Kyosho has to offer!
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If any of you are coming to the AMA convention at the Ontario California Convention Center, The Phantom 70 will be on display. Come by and check it out!!
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Tim,

Do you have any more pics? The ones above do not work for my computer.

Thanks,
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I will post more pictures soon
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Here are a few build shots. Vision Hobbies in AZ, is installing an electric motor in their phantom 70
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The Prop shop is a GREAT R/C Hobby shop.
And they are on the other side of town to me.
I get over there about once a year.

I has been at least 4 months since I emailed Koyosho about a P-40, no reply on it I traded the plane.

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Hi Gearhead,

It's been posted here before and I thought: looks a bit "ugly" so it must fly fast

but seeing the vid you posted; it just looks "ugly"[&:]

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That's a matter of opinion... I think it looks drop dead gorgeous. It just needs a screaming Jett .90 instead of a whimpy four stroke.
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Hi Gearhead,

It's been posted here before and I thought: looks a bit "ugly" so it must fly fast

but seeing the vid you posted; it just looks "ugly"[&:]

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That's a matter of opinion... I think it looks drop dead gorgeous. It just needs a screaming Jett .90 instead of a whimpy four stroke.
And the Nitro vs Electric wars begin!!!!

I have hung an electric motor on my Phantom firewall. I will be very disapointed if I don't hit at least 120mph with this set up.
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I'm not starting a war... heck, I would prefer an electric setup over a four stroke too.... easier to get more power out of those.
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I'm not starting a war... heck, I would prefer an electric setup over a four stroke too.... easier to get more power out of those.

try a YS 100FZ it has a kool sound to it! not some sudo wimpy wirring noise
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I'm not starting a war... heck, I would prefer an electric setup over a four stroke too.... easier to get more power out of those.

try a YS 100FZ it has a kool sound to it! not some sudo wimpy wirring noise
HEHEHE...Like I said nitro vs electric...lol.

But if you want scale sound you keep the electric, and just find the pitch prop, and you will have the best sounding airplane.
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I'm not starting a war... heck, I would prefer an electric setup over a four stroke too.... easier to get more power out of those.

try a YS 100FZ it has a kool sound to it! not some sudo wimpy wirring noise
HEHEHE...Like I said nitro vs electric...lol.

But if you want scale sound you keep the electric, and just find the pitch prop, and you will have the best sounding airplane.

and the smell of burnt wiring just ndon't cut it. Now nitro fuel now your talking!
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heheh....see what did I tell ya...ROFL


Yeah but at least you can walk away from the flying field not smelling like caster oil. Your Girlfriend will like you better....lol
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