Extreme Speed Prop Planes Discuss the need for speed with fast prop planes (Screamin Demon, Diamond Dust, Shrikes or any REAL sound breakin'''' plane)
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What would be a fast kit for a summer project?

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Old 03-22-2008, 05:09 PM
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Hello,

Lately I have been intrigued by fast, agile planes and would like to know what would be a fast stable platform that I could use in a .40 size plane.

If you have built a stable fast plane I would really like to hear your suggestions.

Even if you haven’t built it but you know someone who has please tell me what your thoughts on it are.

I am wiling to take any suggestions out there and sort through them to find a fun plane that will blow my doors off.

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Old 03-22-2008, 05:21 PM
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Well the Diamond Dust is great and so is the design by Mike Connors, can't recall the name at this moment. These are hand launched deltas is that okay with you?
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Old 03-22-2008, 05:23 PM
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Yes, Hand launched deltas would be fine with me.

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ORIGINAL: Flyer 202

Hello,

Lately I have been intrigued by fast, agile planes and would like to know what would be a fast stable platform that I could use in a .40 size plane.

If you have built a stable fast plane I would really like to hear your suggestions.

Even if you haven’t built it but you know someone who has please tell me what your thoughts on it are.

I am wiling to take any suggestions out there and sort through them to find a fun plane that will blow my doors off.

Thank You, Flyer 202
Beyond deltas, have you considered a Quickie 500, ARF or scratchbuilt? Do you want to "blow your doors off" with top speed or maneuverability? Both you say? The aforementioned deltas, or the Outlaw, or a Q500 would be my first kicks at the cat.

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I would go for the Viper from great planes. These can be very fast and are very complete for the price. I am even flying one with a Nelson on it for 428.
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I have never heard of the quickie 500 or the outlaw if you could supply me with a link that would be great.
I have looked at the viper and forgot to add it to the pools i will do that after this post.

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...the design by Mike Connors, can't recall the name at this moment.
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My Spring project is an Outlaw from [link=http://www.extremeflightrc.com/html/outlaw.html]Extreme Flight RC[/link].
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ORIGINAL: Flyer 202

I have never heard of the quickie 500 or the outlaw if you could supply me with a link that would be great.
I have looked at the viper and forgot to add it to the pools i will do that after this post.

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A Quickie 500 is a class of airplane as opposed to a specific design. If you have looked at the GP Viper then you've seen everything you need to in order to be able to identify one at 50 paces - they are simplistic and distinctive. And they go like snot. An anemic sport .40 should haul one at 100mph or so I would guess. Toss a muffled OS .46FX on there and an APC 9-7 or 9-8 and what do you say guys, 120-130? They also fly smooth and groovy (like any other type of aircraft, if they are trimmed halfway decently), have a modest wing loading, and landing gear. And the ARF's are cheap too. There are several little points of improvement that take only a little time but that greatly increase durabilty, that have been covered in this forum and can be dug out easily - they focus on the Lanier Predator and the GP Viper. They are decent out of the box aircraft.

Of course, deltas are cool too.

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Look at the matney model zoomer with a thin race airfoil option. Probably gonna be your best bet for a cheap go fast summer project.
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Dust, Shrike, and Viper from your list are all OK. Outlaw is not a true speed plane though it is quick. The fat wing and rudder make it more of an acrobat, 125 tops. Also it's a .30 size working well with the lighter .32 to .36. A .40 size motor is too heavy.

I'd recommend a Magnum though, great speed flyer, great handling. After that a Viper or other Quickie 500 airframe.
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Dust, Shrike, and Viper from your list are all OK. Outlaw is not a true speed plane though it is quick. The fat wing and rudder make it more of an acrobat, 125 tops. Also it's a .30 size working well with the lighter .32 to .36. A .40 size motor is too heavy.

I'd recommend a Magnum though, great speed flyer, great handling. After that a Viper or other Quickie 500 airframe.
Interestingly, I would put those two categories in the opposite order - having both I'd lean towards the Q500's but that's just personal preference.

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Now that I have seen some of these choices I now prefer the full fuselage thin wing core so I can have stability and speed while having a speed demon.


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The Easter bunny broght me a Patroit kit!
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I second the Magnum.
I fly Q500 all the time, if you have them set up with race throws they are fairly boring to fly around with. The Magnum with a speedy .46 will curl your toes. If you want to build, snag a Patriot, they are great speed ships if you build them light and right.
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I have made the decision on what plane I want to build here is the rundown.

Dominator 500 http://www.lanierrc.com/airplanes/lana3000.html

O.S. .46 AX http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFMD5&P=0

Macs O.S. .46AX Muffler http://www.macspro.com/onepiece.asp

Hitec HS-55 (Throttle) http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=TC4043&P=7

Hitec HS-225MG BB (Ailerons, Elevator, and Rudder) http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=TC4051&P=7

Hitec Supreme IIS 8Ch FM http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKYK3&P=7

Please Tell Me what you think of this any changes that you have in mind I will take in to consideration

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The Dominator isn't an ARF, FYI.
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Howdy Flyer- The black Macs muffler is a waste of money. get a Tower muffler or a Ultrathrust/ Jett muffler if you want to improve over stock performance. Also, I would not run the HS-55 in anything other than my little foamie's. Not sure if other folks use them for THR. though-

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Howdy Flyer- The black Macs muffler is a waste of money. get a Tower muffler or a Ultrathrust/ Jett muffler if you want to improve over stock performance. Also, I would not run the HS-55 in anything other than my little foamie's. Not sure if other folks use them for THR. though-

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If you want a small servo with plenty of durabilty HS-56HB is the way to go. I've used them to run the Vtail on a plane that went over 210mph.
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I would use stronger servos, both for the throttle (a 225 there is OK) and for the elevator, rudder, and ailerons.
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225 is fine on the elevators and ailerons, we've used them for years.

The Hitec 55 for throttle would be suspect. Look into the Hitec 85, they work well for throttle.

With the stock muffler (baffle removed) and that plane, we have seen speeds in the 120-125 range on a straight and level pylon course. I'd start with that, and then upgrade to the ultrathrust or jett if you need more speed.

The dominator is a pretty easy to build kit, but it does not come with hardware or landing gear, so you'll have to pick that up seperately.
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Also,

Lanier was sold to Tower, that link of yours works, but I don't think they have any stock to sell you. Tower had some blowout sales on Lanier stuff a few weeks back, not sure you can even get a dominator anymore...
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Just saw this in the swap shop. Nice stable sport speed quickie.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=379487

Not the $29.99 they were back then, but about the same as what the dominators were going for.
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Tower had a blow out because they are discontinuing some things.
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