Airframe for Jett 60LX
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Airframe for Jett 60LX
Hi all,
I need some fresh ideas about putting my Jett 60LX in a new airframe.
As you can guess Im after pure speed..
heres the challenge: Im afraid the brands that are available to me are cermark, Nitro planes, hangar 9, world models, seagull, kyosho and phoenix models.
I recently lost my beloved phoenix F20 with an 55AX + UT muffler on it, tho I dont think it could handle the power of the 60LX if I bought a new one.
All suggestions are welcome!
I need some fresh ideas about putting my Jett 60LX in a new airframe.
As you can guess Im after pure speed..
heres the challenge: Im afraid the brands that are available to me are cermark, Nitro planes, hangar 9, world models, seagull, kyosho and phoenix models.
I recently lost my beloved phoenix F20 with an 55AX + UT muffler on it, tho I dont think it could handle the power of the 60LX if I bought a new one.
All suggestions are welcome!
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RE: Airframe for Jett 60LX
Mike, Im still waiting to maiden it with the TT46 Pro Ive made a skid landing gear for it, but still Im gona land on asphalt - Once I get used to it, I will probably upgrade it to 60LX power
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RE: Airframe for Jett 60LX
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Still drinking that bathtub booze I see. Just can't picture any OS engine except the DF design giving much speed on any prop. Doubt that a 61 fx can reach 14,000 as long as it has any size prop on it. Yes a OS 90 VRDF would be interesting, otherwise the fx is a big yawn. Regardless, ENJOY
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the OS engines can be retuned to turn very good numbers. The thing with OS is they are building engine for the health of our hobby. They set the engines up for low rpm high torque. this lets you turn larger props at a lower rpm. this with the stock "baffled" muffler keeps the noise at low levels which alot of clubs require. I have a guy in my club that retimes the OS engine's and with the Jett muffler turn very respectable numbers som are with in 500 rpm of the jett engines. for an example the new OS .35AX turns an 8x7 apc at 20,200 with the gold muffler. my jett 35 LX only turns that prop around 21,000.
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
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RE: Airframe for Jett 60LX
and also stock 55AX does 12800 on 10x9 APC and 14600 with UT muffler..
lets not talk about other engines tho.. I like all kinds of engines, piston or not.. dont worry about it
lets not talk about other engines tho.. I like all kinds of engines, piston or not.. dont worry about it
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RE: Airframe for Jett 60LX
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the OS engines can be retuned to turn very good numbers. The thing with OS is they are building engine for the health of our hobby. They set the engines up for low rpm high torque. this lets you turn larger props at a lower rpm. this with the stock "baffled" muffler keeps the noise at low levels which alot of clubs require. I have a guy in my club that retimes the OS engine's and with the Jett muffler turn very respectable numbers som are with in 500 rpm of the jett engines. for an example the new OS .35AX turns an 8x7 apc at 20,200 with the gold muffler. my jett 35 LX only turns that prop around 21,000.
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
the OS engines can be retuned to turn very good numbers. The thing with OS is they are building engine for the health of our hobby. They set the engines up for low rpm high torque. this lets you turn larger props at a lower rpm. this with the stock "baffled" muffler keeps the noise at low levels which alot of clubs require. I have a guy in my club that retimes the OS engine's and with the Jett muffler turn very respectable numbers som are with in 500 rpm of the jett engines. for an example the new OS .35AX turns an 8x7 apc at 20,200 with the gold muffler. my jett 35 LX only turns that prop around 21,000.
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
How much work does he put into these engines? I imagine some port mods, what else? Just curious.
MJD
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I am not surprised they can be retimed/fiddled for lots of power - you are taking an engine with design parameters aimed at one type of performance and turning it into something else, and that takes skill and labor that only a few people have. Otherwise, you have to pay Jett or another company or an engine-head to build that engine for you. I imagine there are more brands than OS that could be similarly hopped up by someone skilled, as long as the engine was sound mechanically and had the right basic bits.
How much work does he put into these engines? I imagine some port mods, what else? Just curious.
MJD
ORIGINAL: airraptor
the OS engines can be retuned to turn very good numbers. The thing with OS is they are building engine for the health of our hobby. They set the engines up for low rpm high torque. this lets you turn larger props at a lower rpm. this with the stock "baffled" muffler keeps the noise at low levels which alot of clubs require. I have a guy in my club that retimes the OS engine's and with the Jett muffler turn very respectable numbers som are with in 500 rpm of the jett engines. for an example the new OS .35AX turns an 8x7 apc at 20,200 with the gold muffler. my jett 35 LX only turns that prop around 21,000.
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
the OS engines can be retuned to turn very good numbers. The thing with OS is they are building engine for the health of our hobby. They set the engines up for low rpm high torque. this lets you turn larger props at a lower rpm. this with the stock "baffled" muffler keeps the noise at low levels which alot of clubs require. I have a guy in my club that retimes the OS engine's and with the Jett muffler turn very respectable numbers som are with in 500 rpm of the jett engines. for an example the new OS .35AX turns an 8x7 apc at 20,200 with the gold muffler. my jett 35 LX only turns that prop around 21,000.
the OS 55 turns an 11x7 with red muffler at 14,000
How much work does he put into these engines? I imagine some port mods, what else? Just curious.
MJD
I was introduced to him a few years ago, through a life long friend of mine that I helped recently to start on the fast track towards building, tuning, and flying techniques to dwell in a speed range that few ever reach. At first I found this engine guy's analysis and conclusions about 2-stroke breathing principles employed (IN ENGINES THAT HE DID NOT DESIGN) a bit arrogant -and- ignorant, so of course we butted heads. But I realized from the start that he really did understand alot of things about engine breathing that most guys who think they do; ahhhh...... really dont.
Soo..., I withheld judgment regarding his judgmental opinions as I percieved them to start with, buried the hatchet, stayed fiendly with him, and proceeded to just let him see some of what I accomplish across time with my engines and airplanes, so that maybe we could find some common ground and learn from each other. Sure enough, the wisdom in my old age to decide to play it that way paid off HUGELY.
In the years since, when he comes in to our shop to buy engines to play with, averaging twice a month, and more often than not, more than one engine; I am privileged to talk with this man about the subtle balance that our 3rd stage, highest output engines have.
Whether they started life as Jett Engineering or Nelson thoroughbreds or cheap Chinese sport horses, or Japanese proud brand (O.S.), or anything ever produced in the European Union, they all have one thing in common, they need to breathe. So to answer your specific question about how hard it really is to learn to re-time an engine of one brand compared to another; I would put it to you like this>
Any 2-stroke can be modified for any timing, the trick is knowing what you are achieving.
I have learned that when you are talking with someone who actually has the cahoney's to ruin, break, destroy, LOTS of engines across decades for the purpose of learning those engines; Listen to that person. C.R
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The Jett engine are make very good power most are better than the retimed cheaper engines but they dont last anywhere near the Jett engines do. The jetts will last many seasons i would guess maybe three to four times regular engines. My next Jett will be a 120 if I can get one.
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MJD, the fellow that airraptor is talking about is fascinating. ....
I have learned that when you are talking with someone who actually has the cahoney's to ruin, break, destroy, LOTS of engines across decades for the purpose of learning those engines; Listen to that person. C.R
MJD, the fellow that airraptor is talking about is fascinating. ....
I have learned that when you are talking with someone who actually has the cahoney's to ruin, break, destroy, LOTS of engines across decades for the purpose of learning those engines; Listen to that person. C.R
Thanks C_R
MJD