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Old 06-04-2003, 12:44 AM
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Im lookin for a Patriot and i cant find it at the greatplanes homepage and tower hobbies says it discont. Does any still sell this plane?
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Old 06-04-2003, 03:31 AM
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av8,
Yes, Great Planes has discontinued the Patriot...but on their web site, they do ask for suggestions for their next kit. Maybe if enough of us suggested a re-issue of the Patriot, or an updated version, they might reconsider.
Has to be enough of us speed freaks to make a re-issue worth their while??
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Old 06-04-2003, 03:59 AM
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I would vote for a remake of the Patriot!

You might try E-bay for a kit or built one, and right here on good ole' RCU!

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Old 06-05-2003, 12:10 AM
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I have seen a few threads on RCU I think in the kit forum and in the planes for sale. Do a search for the Patriot and see what you can come up with. Tim
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Old 06-06-2003, 08:43 PM
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Default more prop jets

i wish someone like great planes would come out with some more style prop jets. F16s, f15s etc. not large ones like cbm f16n but more like the 40 size. Just for the heck of it i am thinking about converting my cmbf16 to a puller prop. I have already cut the push rods and set it up so that i have all the servos in the back.
i think it would work
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Old 06-07-2003, 12:56 AM
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There is on on E-Bay-
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Old 06-12-2003, 04:09 AM
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maybe we could all get a petition going and send it to GP to re-issue the Patriot. I want one
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Old 06-20-2003, 07:40 PM
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Count me in!!!!!!!!!! Maybe a 90 size
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It already is 90 sized!
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They are hard to get. You can try e-bay and keep looking in the for sale section. I have had one sitting in my closet for a while.I started builing it today, just finished the verticle stab... I am not sure why Great Planes wants to discountinue it. Everybody wants one. Good luck

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Jimmy,

My guess is liability issues. Too many nuts like me who want to stuff high powered engines in them. I would be surprised if you ever see the Patriot again.
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Default Patriot- how fast with a 46 and retracts?

HI,

I am building a patriot and want it to go fast enough to qualify for turbines (about 150 mph).

How fast will it go with an os 46fx and retracts? with Pipe? With a OS 61 fx?

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Originally posted by ddennison
HI,

I am building a patriot and want it to go fast enough to qualify for turbines (about 150 mph).

How fast will it go with an os 46fx and retracts? with Pipe? With a OS 61 fx?

Thanks!
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With the 46fx and tuned pipe expect around 110 - 120 MPH I am using a Jett .50 in it and hoping to get to 130 - 140 MPH. I am not sure if you want to put a 61FX in it. it probably will not fit without lots of mods and maybe make it too heavy. Also when using retracts you are limited to 8oz tank. that is like 4 min flight using the 61FX.

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Default well...

I have a Patriot with an Irvine-53 (10x8 or 9x8) with Spring Air retracts and it maybe breaks 100-

To hit 150 you would have to squeeze a Jett-50 to max RPM's out of a dive-

How about a Ducted Fan?
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What kind of muffler are you running on your Irvine .53 / Patriot combo?
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Tower Muffler...
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I am considering either the Jett .50 or the YS .45.

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According to Great Hobbies in Canada, the patriot has been re-released for a limited time.
www.greathobbies.com
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Old 09-05-2003, 04:52 AM
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yeah is the patriot hard to build?i wanna buy one from tower they reissued them
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I tried buying one from Tower back around April but they were out of stock & discontinued. I seen on Tower website that they're back in stock, jumped at the chance to buy one & now it's in my shop 4 days later. I have a YS 45 with tuned pipe I was thinking of useing but I want this puppy to scream! How bout it? anybody use a YS45 with tuned pipe? How fast? Or should I go with a Jett 50?
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You will love it- (SE Hopefully?)

The YS-45 will be a monster in there... I have not SEEN one fly with that combo but it would be a great choice! (I have read that the combo is awesome-)

I run mine with a Jett-50 and the stories are true- it m o v e s


Have fun and keep us posted-
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Razor,
Yes it is a side exhaust YS45. Bought this engine used a couple of years ago & ran it up about a year ago with the stock exhuast pipe. Ran great, I forget what rpm I was getting with an apc 11x6 prop. This will be my first experience with a tuned pipe. Do'nt know the mfg of the pipe as one of my fellow club members gave this pipe to me after finding it in the tall grass at our field. He cleaned it up with an SOS pad & it looks like new with just a few minor scratches. No mfg name or anything on pipe. This pipe is 19 inches long including stinger. The inlet side is the exact same diameter as the exhaust header that came with this engine, so I take this to mean it's the right size pipe for this engine. Also, the header that came with this engine has a small dent in it. About where curve ends & starts to go straight back. Do you think this dent would effect performance, or should I just buy a new header?
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but could any one tell me how hard it is to build? this is my first time building
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You know.... The YS-45 is designed to be run with a 7.5 or 8.5CC pipe- I have a Macs full length pipe on mine and it is violently loud (but powerful[8D]) they make a quiet pipe also but they are a little expensive I think-

SO you found a pipe that you wanna try? Just keep track of the RPM's so you know where you started... the dent in the header, provided it is small, will not effect running-

Try a 10x7 to start then work your way down!

Have fun-
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Default Patriot In Stock at Tower

I ordered mine Aug 1st just got it! i went to there site just now there in Stock
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJ586&P=7
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