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Old 12-02-2009, 11:55 AM
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Default What's A Good First Time Speed Plane

Looking for something in a .40 size. I don't want a flying wing type plane and I would like for the plane to have landing gear and rudder control.

Can you guys steer me in the right direction?

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Great planes Viper 500.
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yes the viper is good.clip the wings to 40in improves the roll rate alot.comes in a little hot. but the standard wing glides forever.and takes too long to bleed off speed.but still hand launches very well on a stock 46.I always hand launch my viper to protect my prop and kill it on the thershold
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Rudders and landing gear are overrated. Weston Magnum. [>:]
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Rudders and landing gear are overrated. Weston Magnum. [>:]
Yeeeeaaaaa.... Never hand launched a plane with an 18,000rpm prop spinning before! That is a cool plane. You have a link?
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:26 AM
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Do you want an ARF or are simple kits okay? Simple as in not too much of a nuisance to build, not "kits you can handle building" I mean..

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Do you want an ARF or are simple kits okay? Simple as in not too much of a nuisance to build, not ''kits you can handle building'' I mean..

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Most of these type of planes seem pretty simple so kit or ARF. I've got three flying planes now that I have built. I'm not flying an ARF at the moment.
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If kits are an option, Matney Models dot com has some nice stuff and quite reasonably priced. Look in the Q500 section, including the Zoomer at the bottom. All are what, ~115-120 mph aircraft with a sport .46, and 150-160 area with a hot .46-.50. Or thereabouts.

Just one idea of a few possibilities.

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If kits are an option, Matney Models dot com has some nice stuff and quite reasonably priced. Look in the Q500 section, including the Zoomer at the bottom. All are what, ~115-120 mph aircraft with a sport .46, and 150-160 area with a hot .46-.50. Or thereabouts.

Just one idea of a few possibilities.

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I have a broken in Super Tiger G-51 with a Jett muffer that needs a home. That Zoomer looks like a cool plane. The wing options are nice. I would probably opt for the 15% fully symetrical wing to get the nice slow flight characteristics but I have no idea. What kind of speeds do you think I could expect with the Super Tigre? I'm not looking for blazing speed but over 100mph should be a kick for me. What kind of servos do you guys use on a plane like this? HS-225 minis or just standard servos?
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You'll be over 100, by how much I do not know as I don't know the .51. My guess is you'd have a 110-115 mph aircraft there.. anyone? Ask Kevin Matney, he'll likely know. HS-225's will do the job, the control surfaces are not huge. Esp. on 6V. Standards are fine too.

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You'll be over 100, by how much I do not know as I don't know the .51. My guess is you'd have a 110-115 mph aircraft there.. anyone? Ask Kevin Matney, he'll likely know. HS-225's will do the job, the control surfaces are not huge. Esp. on 6V. Standards are fine too.

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Yea, I've seen that. That video is why we are all talking about this in my new thread!
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Pushing 200mph with an FAI .40.. good first speed plane !!!

Arcticflier had/has a Rifle kit - Magnum looking thing in laser-cut kit form and supposedly a nice aircraft - up for grabs, I'll look for the info. They are shown with LG option are they not?

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I hear that Angel will build and cover one (ARF) for a very reasonable price (less than $200 I think). My buddies had a rudder and landing gear....key word there is "had." Honestly though the gear seemed more trouble than it was worth on grass.
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It is trouble indeed. For pavement I'd like a runner down the belly and plastic tip skids though.

A lot of guys aren't cool with hand launches, others aren't phazed. I think it is a bit of an act of faith the first few times (or every time..?), esp. with small speedy things. And with some people's launch technique..

Just don't launch banked to the left like the Magnum video on Weston's site - entitled "200mph Madness".. Do that on low rates or if the engine gurgles and you'll be changing props and cleaning the engine before the next attempt.

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I just watched the "200mph Madness" video. I would be surprised if he hit 170 on any of those passes. This plane is surrounded by more BS stories than the Mary Celeste.
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[Office Space] Yeeeeeaaaaaaa..... [/Office Space]

170mph isn't my goal here. A nice "leisurely" 120mph would be more than enough for me. I'm really digging that Zoomer so far. That one has definatetly got my interest.

I doubt I could see a 170mph plane any better than you can see it in that video.
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I don't have one but I have an AJ-2 and the fuse glasswork is nice. The Zoomer looks really sharp.

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How about the Hangar 9 Sundowner? It is very pretty and reasonably priced.
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How about the Hangar 9 Sundowner? It is very pretty and reasonably priced.
Yea, that is a nice looking plane.

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Sundowner cool like Kyosho Kelly F1.

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When I send emails to Matney Models his email bounces due to a full email box and no answer on the phone. Is this company still around?

I like that Zoomer. Cool looking plane!
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I've heard no news to the contrary. Small business, swamped..? Dunno. Good to know tho'.

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I've heard no news to the contrary. Small business, swamped..? Dunno. Good to know tho'.

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Called him today. Says it takes him 2 weeks to put together a Zoomer kit. I'm always a bit leary when someone tells me "two weeks". Sometimes that turns into 4 or 6 weeks or even months.
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