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Old 03-14-2011, 07:04 AM
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Hi guys,
My jackal is ready for maiden. I will post some pics and my set up. One question I have is control throws. I think per manual they are very high: 1 inch Up elevator?? I can't not even get there with that linkage. I think even low rates are still high.
Could somebody post their throws (flaps, aileron, elevator..)
By now I have like 20% less than the recommended in the manual, except for the Flaps in which I have pretty much the recommended.
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A big welcome to the Jackal 50 funny farm, I mean club!! When I set my Jackal 50 up, I go with half the manual throws. The rudder I also max out on the throws. The only time I use rudder is on the ground. On my elevator here is my setup: Low Rate - 10MM up and down
High Rate - 15MM up and down
The ailerons are set the same way as the elevator. This setup my not work for you, but, start with half of the manual throws and work from there. Good luck with your maiden flight and please let us know how it went!!!

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FIREWALL24,
A big welcome to the Jackal 50 funny farm, I mean club!! When I set my Jackal 50 up, I go with half the manual throws. The rudder I also max out on the throws. The only time I use rudder is on the ground. On my elevator here is my setup: Low Rate - 10MM up and down
High Rate - 15MM up and down
The ailerons are set the same way as the elevator. This setup my not work for you, but, start with half of the manual throws and work from there. Good luck with your maiden flight and please let us know how it went!!!

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thanks a lot Sonny,
I will start from there. I really like to fly with low throws....
What about flaps and down elevator mix? what is your setup there?
I will try to maiden this Thursday
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:36 PM
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FIREWALL24,
A big welcome to the Jackal 50 funny farm, I mean club!! When I set my Jackal 50 up, I go with half the manual throws. The rudder I also max out on the throws. The only time I use rudder is on the ground. On my elevator here is my setup: Low Rate - 10MM up and down
High Rate - 15MM up and down
The ailerons are set the same way as the elevator. This setup my not work for you, but, start with half of the manual throws and work from there. Good luck with your maiden flight and please let us know how it went!!!

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thanks a lot Sonny,
I will start from there. I really like to fly with low throws....
What about flaps and down elevator mix? what is your setup there?
I will try to maiden this Thursday
Juan
Juan;
Because of the bad winter we have had in the States, my Jackal has only 3 short flight. Right now I have not setup the flaps/elevator mix. I can not recall if the nose drop shot up when I put the flaps out. Can not wait till the weather break, so I can rip into her. Juan, she is a keeper!! Also, my expo on aileron and elevator is set at 25% Good luck again and let us know how much you love her, and you will!! Have fun my friend!!

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What Prop Goes with O.S 55 and this jackal for Maximum speed?
On my small Great Planes Revolver with the O.S. 55AX, I am running a APC 10x7 prop at 12,900 rpm with no Jett Muffler!!
Now on my Jackal 55 with the Evo 60NX, I have a 10x7 APC, rpm between 16 to 17,100.

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what you Think about APC 10x8 prop on the O.S. 55AX with Jett Muffler.

I'm currently running the 55 with Jett muffler and 10x9 prop. Turns about 14k on the ground. I found the engine did not like this much prop with the stock muffler, but with the Jett pipe it's happy.
Makes my Kaos run about 110-120 mph.

I had to add a 3/8" thick spacer to the pipe to clear the fuse.
My buddy flies his Kaos with a Rossi 53 and pipe, our speeds are pretty much identical. Everyone loves to watch the "Dualing Kaos'"
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What Prop Goes with O.S 55 and this jackal for Maximum speed?
On my small Great Planes Revolver with the O.S. 55AX, I am running a APC 10x7 prop at 12,900 rpm with no Jett Muffler!!
Now on my Jackal 55 with the Evo 60NX, I have a 10x7 APC, rpm between 16 to 17,100.

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what you Think about APC 10x8 prop on the O.S. 55AX with Jett Muffler.

I'm currently running the 55 with Jett muffler and 10x9 prop. Turns about 14k on the ground. I found the engine did not like this much prop with the stock muffler, but with the Jett pipe it's happy.
Makes my Kaos run about 110-120 mph.

I had to add a 3/8'' thick spacer to the pipe to clear the fuse.
My buddy flies his Kaos with a Rossi 53 and pipe, our speeds are pretty much identical. Everyone loves to watch the ''Dualing Kaos'''
My I ask what Jett muffler do you buy for the OS 55AX??
Thanks for the info!!

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Old 03-18-2011, 12:51 PM
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[link=http://www.jettengineering.com/accy/jettstream.html]Pipe page[/link]

See the JS-40-TT
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[link=http://www.jettengineering.com/accy/jettstream.html]Pipe page[/link]

See the JS-40-TT
Thanks for the info!!!

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Just got email from Dub my SJ56 has been shipped, it should arrive just in time, the snow is melting fast here and it will be time to break out the fast planes.
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So I'm finally getting to assemble my Jackal. I'm at the part where it's recommending that I put the switch in the fuse. As nice as this would look, I'm thinking it may be a bit tight in there with all the plumbing for the retracts. Where do you guys end up mounting yours? How about a fuel dot location?

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Old 03-19-2011, 06:05 PM
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So I'm finally getting to assemble my Jackal. I'm at the part where it's recommending that I put the switch in the fuse. As nice as this would look, I'm thinking it may be a bit tight in there with all the plumbing for the retracts. Where do you guys end up mounting yours? How about a fuel dot location?

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It is tight if you put the switch inside the fuse, but it do work!!! As for the fuel dot, I did not go with it. I can get to the crab line to fuel the tank. For me, I just love to put my switch inside to protect it.

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Old 03-19-2011, 06:54 PM
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viper1676,
Here are 2 pictures of how tight the switch is!!

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Awesome. Thanks for the photo's Sonny.

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The Evolution muffler fitts the O.S. .55 as well.
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So I'm finally getting to assemble my Jackal. I'm at the part where it's recommending that I put the switch in the fuse. As nice as this would look, I'm thinking it may be a bit tight in there with all the plumbing for the retracts. Where do you guys end up mounting yours? How about a fuel dot location?

Thanks!
Viper,

Here's where I located my switch.

Hope it helps,
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yeah that location seems more reasonable..
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Hi Guys;

Today I had 3 good run on the speed gun with the Jackal 50. The wind was out of the east at 3 to 5 knots, fuel 15% nitro, prop 11x6 APC. Each run was at 50 feet and level.
First run 127 mph
Second run - 135 mph
Last run - 140 mph
Air temp 51 degs
As you can see, I do think this bird will go 150 MPH or higher!!
Anyone else has some numbers?? Please post!! Also, if you just like to fly around and not speed, the plane do fly good on half throttle!! This is a keeper guys, and for the people that are still on the fence about this plane, buy this bird, you will be glad you did!!!

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Hello jet22b

How you can go fast in the jackal 50?


I have one with the description below:

Weight: arround 9.00lb with empty tank
o.s. 65ax with tuned pipe
usingAPC11x7have 12,750 RPM
usingzinger 11x8 have 11,850RPM

With zinger propit's run around 132mph.

Whath rpm do you recomendto mefor my o.s. 65ax andwith wich propsize?
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how well did the 65 ax fit?
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Any suggestions on an engine for the Jackal for use in a noise-restricted field? How about using the Evo .60NX with the stock muffler and an 11x7 prop? How about the .52NX with the 11x7 prop? I know the Evo .52 with an 11x7 passes our dB test and pulls my Sundowner around pretty nicely, but it seems to be on the low end of the recommended engine range for the Jackal. I'm ok with losing some speed/power in order to be able to fly at all by keeping within our noise restrictions.

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The pesky mounting blocks for the ailerons and flaps broke. Glue them with expoxy waited till it dried drill the 1/16 holes put thin ca. The next day I was screwing the servos when on block just cracked in half as did 3 more. Not sure how to fix this? Did anyopne else have this problem?
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Any suggestions on an engine for the Jackal for use in a noise-restricted field? How about using the Evo .60NX with the stock muffler and an 11x7 prop? How about the .52NX with the 11x7 prop? I know the Evo .52 with an 11x7 passes our dB test and pulls my Sundowner around pretty nicely, but it seems to be on the low end of the recommended engine range for the Jackal. I'm ok with losing some speed/power in order to be able to fly at all by keeping within our noise restrictions.

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The stock muffler do not make the Evo .60NX come alive like the Jett pipe do, but, it may fit into your noise restrictions. If you have the Evo .60NX, out on the test stand and see if it fit the noise that is set for your field. I can tell you the Evo .60NX on the JETT pipe is loud. I have yet to put it on the meter, because our club field is 10 miles from a stock car dirt track and when they are racing, they overlap our noise, so everybody is happy.
Let me know the outcome of your noise test with the stock muffler on the Evo .60NX!!

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So did anyone else find that when they tightened down the rear stabilizer, the 3 screws really don't tighten down? I lock tited them, but the bolts never really got snug. It seems like it is on there tight, I tried pulling on it, and it stays. Just making me a bit nervous.

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Dave, did you use a washer to keep the wood from compressing?
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I followed the instructions from the manual....lock washer and flat.
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