Aljo

*update* I just purchased the ST Racing Performance 17mm Hex Conversion Kit http://www.rcplanet.com/STRC_Hex_Conversion_Kit_p/SPTST3654-17B.htm?avad=3197_c11a3f19 
Does anyone know  which 1/8th scale buggy rim would suit the Nitro Rustler Front Spindles 2536? It uses 11x5x4 bearings outer and inner on rim.

Krazy Chicken

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Aljo

Damn looks like Ihave touse 1/10th wheels up front and 1/8th street tyres on back for thrashing on the tarmac, if I choose good fronts it could work.

Krazy Chicken

you may be able to convert to the electric rustler front hubs

ELK

dont mean to inturupt any convos but im in need of a new rustler motor not trying to go brushless but tranny is brushless ready. the motor has to be compatible with the xl-5. im thinkin of givin my lil cousin a good christmas present unless his parents get him one.

thehuntingterminator

Another stock Titan 12t? Or for a little more there anre some aftermarket 15t you can buy that are rebuildable so you can replace the brushes when they go bad.

Muskokarc

I just put in a new Team Orion Method R 17T motor dose quite well, and is re- build able to.

AL3xGR

Don't waste your money for brushed motors....Get an ezrun 35A esc and a 9T motor and you can get the same performance (or much better if you gear higher) without maintenance.

17T or 12T brushed = ezrun 9T/35A,stock gearing (or taller) with 6 cell nimh

And you'll have longer run times too

Aljo

I already have the E Rusty setup on the car. The NRusty setup is in the mail in transit to me forthe upgrade. The NRusty setup has next to no rolling resistance and uses 11x5x4 bearings compared to the original hubs that use 8x5x2.5 bearings and keep shattering on me after a session on the track going over the jumps. I just checked the VXL hub and it uses the same 11x5x4 bearings as the NRustybut retains the Orig rusty mechanics. That is awsome I will ordertheVXLpart and another set of A Arms and shocks, soI will have 2 front end setups all I will need to do to change them in and out is to disconnect top of shock from shock tower, steeringlink fromsteering blockthen camber links fromcaster blocks andfinally A Arm pins and then just slap the other combo straight in one for racing at the track and the other 1/8 setup for thrashing around the street. Should be fun.

Aljo

I have the EZRUN 35amp 9.5T setup on Lipo 2S 7.4v 5000MAH 40C and she is very quick hitting top speed with 28P 86S 45MPH Battery lasts 30-40min with a 3S 11.1v Turnigy nano-tech 5000mah 3S 45~90C Lipo she would be insane easily hit 60 to 70MPH.
But the Rusty is in peices atm having major surgery Jang style abit of weight loss and handling upgrades and hopefully a new body setup.

Muskokarc

Going brushless is good to do but for a cheap replacement putting back in a brushed is cheaper like around $25- $35 for a new brushed motor.  I plan to in the new year go with a ezrun setup for my rusty.

Any one use the cloth covers for inside there Rustlers, or any other Rc they have?

Aljo

Cloth Covers?

I just ordered
Pro-Line Dirt Hawg 2.8" (30 Srs) on Torque Chrome Front 1136-11
Pro-Line Dirt Hawg 2.8" (30 Srs) on Torque Chrome Rear 1136-12
Pro-Line Bulldog Clear Body B44.1

For the Rusty

B192734

So I have to say that I may upgrade the Rusty more quickly than I thought. For whatever reason...I thought that getting a new brushless motor and ESC and everything and LIPO's was going to be into the $300-375 range. Not sure why I thought it would be so much, but after looking around it seems like they are much cheaper than I thought. Any thoughts on the specific brand or anything? I see a lot of people with the Mamba setup, but are there others that are good? What kind of cost on those?

AL3xGR

Mamba is very powerful for 2wd.But some people seem to like this power . If you want something powerful AND cheap,get the Ezrun(or xerun,it's sensored) 60A esc with a 5.5T motor.And a 2S lipo battery from hobbyking (zippy flightmax 2s 40c 5000mah - you'll get ~30min run times from each pack) Go to hobbywing.com to see more details (and buy from ebay,the motor/esc combo,the batteries are to be purchased from hobbyking)

Aljo

You want cheap and fast you can't go past this setup http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dproduct=10370and http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idproduct=6667and http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dproduct=11956for a wicked fast setup that will blow you away. You will also need the following to charge the battery http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=15042& http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=13765& http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8297cheap to monitor your temps but optional.


I wish I had known about these guys before I bought my EZRUN it cost me $165, $50 more than HK's setup and it ain't even in the same class. But I bought all the other gear from them Batteries, charger and powersupply and a ton of other gear I have spent $300 with them already would have been over $400 if I had bought that combo, damn regret. Well it is on my wish list.

P.S. they have other motors to choose from forogt this motor I linked requires a pinion gear that has a 5mm central hole unless you modify either the pinion or the shaft but in USA pinion with 5mm is cheap http://shop.ebay.com.au/i.html?LH_Av...arr%3D1&_rdc=1also you can choose from an inrunner motor not just the car motor catagory anyways I hope this helps.

AL3xGR

DO NOT GET ANY KD MOTOR.They are the worst you can buy.Very inefficient and heat up very fast.(I bought 2 different size motors and both have problems)The esc is ok but it's HUGE.Get the 100A esc(I have both of them,100A and 150A and they are very good).

You don't need the nanotech bettery.Get this (25A lower isn't a problem - you'll still play 25 mins with this) http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9961
Also,leave the 3s and use only 2s.If you have good motor you can get the same performance with 3s.(3s is for 4wd,3s on a rustler will break your transmission...)

I have accucell 6 charger too.It's good but if you want something faster (if you have 6 packs,as I have too) get this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11444 (I ordered one before some days)

Motor...Get a Castle 4 pole motor (6900kV for 2s is more than enough) or a Novak Ballistic (5.5T 7400kv is more than enough too)

AL3xGR

Also,the Castle motor will have more torque because it's 4 pole.(it will heat up more difficult than a novak motor and allow you to gear higher without problems )
ESC and Programming card

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9550

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8993

AL3xGR

Complete list of things you must get:

ESC http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8993 38$
         http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9550 6.50$

Charger 1  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=11444 40$
PSU for charger 1 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=13765 25$

Charger 2 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=15042 30$
PSU for charger 2 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=6477 16$

Battery http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9961 25$

Temp Monitor http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8297 10$

Motor 1 (enough for this truck and cheaper than the castle)  http://cgi.ebay.com/Novak-Ballistic-...item35adfb7b13 102$(with shipping) (if you want of road too,get the 6.5T (6400kv) or 7.5T (5800kv) motor because 7400kv is very high for off road)

Motor 2 (directly from castle's site - castlecreations.com )

Prefer the novak motor
-rebuildable
-slotted design for less heat - with slotted design you can change stators and change the kv rating too
-will pull less amps and keep your esc cooler
-cheaper

Total price with Novak motor and accucell 6 charger (which is good for beginners and 3  2s packs) is 227$(I know it's high but good motors mean more money.KDs are crap..I WANT MY 60$ BACK!)

Aljo

I own2 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=14697they have done well thus far the nano is a 3S so 11.1v mega awsome I am ordering that soon.I want the150AMP ESCwhen I buy aRC8Be and I will use my 2 Turnigy 5000mAh 2S2P 7.4v 40C hardcase packs in series to make anawsome 14.8v BEAST. I will be buying the 3S Nano soon to have some extra fun with my Rustler.

I will only charge my 5000MAH packs at 6AMPs 1.2C is safe pushing the 5C will cause shorter life in the packs and add to the chance of a fire. The local track will only allow you to charge at 1C MAX on race meets.

So the KD motors suck aye damn so does HK sell any good motors? The EZRUN 4300KV is the one I own is that the best they sell? Let me know but i'll look up those other motors Novak and Castle are usaully alot more expensive aren't they?

In my opinion EZ-RUN Brushless Motor 9T 4300Kv http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idproduct=7195with the 100AMP ESC would be enough for what he would use it forcoming from abrushed setup, with 15 or 17 Pinion and 86 or 90 Spur depending on what spur he already has and if the motor is running hot and that saveshim $70 to $80.

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Also,the Castle motor will have more torque because it's 4 pole.(it will heat up more difficult than a novak motor and allow you to gear higher without problems )
ESC and Programming card

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9550

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8993

I have to do some research on what the pole thing is about I know nothing about that could you give me a quick run down?

What you think of this motor Turnigy Mach2 8.5T Brushless R/C Car Motor w/timing adjust http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=8860maybe thats a good option for the 100A on a budget?

Thx for that info AL3xGR very helpfull, cheers..

crazy nick

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idProduct=8297''>http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8297 cheap to monitor your temps but optional.

I don't know about the other things , but I have one of these for about 9 years and it still works like the day I bought it. I used it to check temps on $400 nitro engines without a problem ever. Great investment even for electric. Helps alot when figuring out gearing.

Aljo

I just ordered the Turnigy nano-tech 5000mah 3S 45~90C Lipo Pack. LOVE IT! rofl...

Jackedman

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guys try this motor its cheap and it runs great too
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=6530

AL3xGR

Turnigy motor seems to be the same crap as the KD motors.The 9T ezrun is the only good thing they sell.And it's a good motor to start with too.Get the 9T motor(and after you upgrade to a novak - 9T is good too.I had one in a 2wd ST and I could reach speeds of ~80kmh without problems(wheelies were not a problem - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXFHgQAtJYA 2s and normal gearing , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxqzyCeyozw3s and the same gearing - I should not use 3s and gear higher on 2s) 

I have heard bad reviews about Turnigy Mach2 8.5T motor too.(weaker than 9T ezrun)

About poles:Most rotors (the axle with the magnet - http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...X12Rotors1.jpg from another motor) have a magnet with only 2 poles.Others have 4 or 6 poles.More poles means more torque,because there are more sides "pushed" by the magnetic field of the coil.He explains it better at 1:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOWf3...FA424&index=62 He compares the regular castle motors with this new neu-castle motor.

The 150A esc is very good but huge.The 100A esc with the 9T motor is a good combination(although 9T isn't 540 from inside and it's for beginners).After upgrade to a Novak.9T might be very good for you and you could think that you don't need to upgrade.It really depends on the driver.The bad with the Novak is that it's more expensive than the ezrun.

AL3xGR

Again,3s is more than it should for these trucks.2s with the proper gearing can be better than having 3s.Also when I was using 3s I always had problems with my transmission(especially differential).I have a 4wd 1/10truck and 3s stills being more than enough.Note toothat 2s batteries are cheaper than 3s.

ODUsurfer

I actually have the Stock Brushless VXL Rustler, and the problem I have is I've got a small fortune in 3s LiPo batteries from my RC airplanes... (I'm primarily a flier, I just have the Rustler for bashing with my kids) So I really want to make use of them in my Rustler, but I've already started stripping the stock gears out.

Anyone have any suggestions on best gearsets to use for 3 cell Lipos? -Specific mods that are necessary for running 3 cell Lipos? Thanks!