Community
Search
Notices
RC Electric Off-Road Trucks, Buggies, Truggies and more Discuss electric RC off-road, buggies & trucks here. Also discuss brushless motors, speed controllers aka ESC's, brushed motors, etc

Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-12-2010, 06:17 PM
  #7101  
Velociraptor73
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sao PauloSP, BRAZIL
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread


ORIGINAL: redfisher1974

My bad it is only a 2s, My eyes are still blurry from last night...lol
LOL!!!

That's the problem with nitro pilots fuel, the side effects on next morning...
Tomato juice helps out.

Old 12-12-2010, 07:25 PM
  #7102  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

ok i have some questions and want you to know this is my 2nd hobby grade rc (unless you count a mirco dt) and might do some racing later as i have a track about 20 minutes from where i live.
ok so my questions are, would you go brushless or run it stock or get a decent brushed motor. and if brushless, would you get an ezrun or get one of the new sidewinder sv2's when they come out. and upgrades i already plan on are a cheap 2.4g set and offroad tires, since stockers wear semi quick it seems. and im just planning ahead, wont be able to open it untill christmas. and if i get brushed or run stock, do you think i should get lipo's and lvc or just run nihm's? and if nihm's what would you suggest?
sorry for all the questions and thanks.
Old 12-12-2010, 08:29 PM
  #7103  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Most people in here would recommend going brushless - even a good brushed motor won't compare power-wise to brushless. There is less maintenance with brushless too. Lipo's are also the best to run as well but there are some safety risks with them so get a lipo storage/charging bag. You also need to get a better charger than you would with NiMH. Lipo and brushless is worth it - trust me.

Is anyone in here even running a brushed system?

I prefer Castle systems (or any of the popular north american brands) over the EZ-run but some people swear by EZ run. I personally run a mamba max pro esc and have a CC CM36-4600kv motor (I havn't run it yet, just switched from a Novak Ballistic) and I am eyeing the new four-poles.

Most ESCs have a low voltage cutoff built in.

Something I found browsing:

You can run a 3s on the 5700 motor, unlike the original Sidewinder that was limited to 2s on the 5700.
Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations
Old 12-12-2010, 08:31 PM
  #7104  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

yeah i saw that the new sv2 combo's can run 5700kv with a 3 cell would probably super hot but could be super fast for like a speed run then cool down
Old 12-12-2010, 08:34 PM
  #7105  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I am guessing Castle is eliminating the mamba max and replacing it with the new sidewinder so there are now two ESC's - one sensored (the pro) and one not sensored?
Old 12-12-2010, 08:37 PM
  #7106  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

idk, i have really looked into it alot, but im pretty sure it said 5700kv is able to run 3s with it, cant remember where though.
Old 12-12-2010, 08:52 PM
  #7107  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Castle says it runs 3s. It sounds like the new sidewinder has similar abilities to the mamba max although I don't know the current rating for it. The old one was 70 and I think the max is 100 (or is it 150?). Castle doesn't like to use publish current ratings because they measure performance differently.
Old 12-12-2010, 08:56 PM
  #7108  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

well, they have a $100 price which is the cheapest i have saw a name brand set and if it does have power close to a mamba max is surprising in a way to me.
Old 12-12-2010, 09:05 PM
  #7109  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I am just thinking out loud here. The mamba max is gone and there are two ESCs now, the pro and sidewinder2. If they up the current capacity of the sidewinder it bridges the gap between the old sidewinder and the mamba max more. One of the sidewinder or mamba max was redundant. The mamba max had similar output to the mamba max pro but was sensorless which is redundant since the mamba max pro runs sensored and sensorless motors. Its not hard to see that there is only a need for two esc's
Old 12-12-2010, 09:08 PM
  #7110  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

good point, now i just need to wait for the release of the new sv2 systems and if i get brushless i will also get 2.4g radio and new tires when old one wear out, and ill get lipos once i get more money
Old 12-12-2010, 09:29 PM
  #7111  
Velociraptor73
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sao PauloSP, BRAZIL
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Now seen all this discussion I'm wondering if I can use my original Sidewinder Motiv 1/10 ESC with the 4600KV and CM36S that I got with 3S lipos.
Is the original Warp 5700KV motor also a CM36S?
If I have to change the ESC I wouldn't like to lose the castlelink option. So I would prefer to let the 4600 in stand by until I can invest more seriously in this matter and get the Mamba Max Pro ESC.

Edited
...well, checked speed and gearing chart on Castle site and they say it's possible if I use the Largest spur gear (88T ?) and between 14-19T pinion.
But that seems to apply for Rustler and XXX-T.
By the way, what XXX-T stands for ?

Has anyone tried this setup before in the Storm Flux?
Old 12-12-2010, 09:53 PM
  #7112  
nitro newby
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Kingsport, TN
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

any idea when they are coming out? or have they not mentioned a possible time?
Old 12-13-2010, 05:31 AM
  #7113  
AL3xGR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread


ORIGINAL: redfisher1974

ORIGINAL: AL3xGR

4500mah and 25C constant(112.5 A constant) isn't enough....For about 5$ more you can get a batteryrated for 200A constant.
Zippy Flightmax 5000mAh 40C 2s(or 3s,but it costs more)

2s isn't bad for a truck like this...
Thats more then enough amps for any 2wd 1/10 scale Rc....
But you'll be able to play more because the voltage won't go down easily.And you lipo won't puff easily.If 200A aremore than enough,why you want tospend too many dollars when you can get a 125A lipo with less money?(than nonotech)
Old 12-13-2010, 08:05 AM
  #7114  
redfisher1974
Senior Member
 
redfisher1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PalmerstonOntario, CANADA
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I am not sure what you are trying to say, First you said 112.5 amps was not enough to which I replied it was more then enough, You don't need 200 amps in a 2wd 1/10 RC.

That being said the Nano-tech 25-50c is more then enough battery.
Old 12-13-2010, 08:06 AM
  #7115  
redfisher1974
Senior Member
 
redfisher1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PalmerstonOntario, CANADA
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I bet the brushless setup in the firestorm flux pulls less then 75 amps....
Old 12-13-2010, 08:17 AM
  #7116  
AL3xGR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 317
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Flux esc is rated for 60-70A constant.I want to say that if 100A for a battery is enough,you can get a cheaper battery than nanotech(flightmax series)
Old 12-13-2010, 08:32 AM
  #7117  
redfisher1974
Senior Member
 
redfisher1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PalmerstonOntario, CANADA
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread


ORIGINAL: AL3xGR

Flux esc is rated for 60-70A constant.I want to say that if 100A for a battery is enough,you can get a cheaper battery than nanotech(flightmax series)
Ok I understand what you are saying now, Yes you can go with the cheaper flight max and you will be fine. I only paid $36 for a 3s Nano-tech that is a different chemistry then a standard lipo and should hold up better over time.
Old 12-13-2010, 09:22 AM
  #7118  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread


ORIGINAL: Velociraptor73

Now seen all this discussion I'm wondering if I can use my original Sidewinder Motiv 1/10 ESC with the 4600KV and CM36S that I got with 3S lipos.
Is the original Warp 5700KV motor also a CM36S?
If I have to change the ESC I wouldn't like to lose the castlelink option. So I would prefer to let the 4600 in stand by until I can invest more seriously in this matter and get the Mamba Max Pro ESC.

Edited
...well, checked speed and gearing chart on Castle site and they say it's possible if I use the Largest spur gear (88T ?) and between 14-19T pinion.
But that seems to apply for Rustler and XXX-T.
By the way, what XXX-T stands for ?

Has anyone tried this setup before in the Storm Flux?
The original warp 5700 is a rebadged cm36s. You can run the sidewinder and 4600 with 3s. It comes as a kit that way. There is only one spur gear from the firestorm, 87T. The XXX-T is a losi 2wd stadium truck I believe. I have a sidewinder and MMax pro and a 4600 and should compare them performance-wise myself.

If anyone cares, Losi launched a separate website for their race vehicles on the weekend.
Old 12-13-2010, 09:42 AM
  #7119  
Velociraptor73
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sao PauloSP, BRAZIL
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

Thanks Rob!

What pinion do you advice for 4600kv with 3S?

Old 12-13-2010, 10:47 AM
  #7120  
redfisher1974
Senior Member
 
redfisher1974's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PalmerstonOntario, CANADA
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

15 to 19 depending on outside temps.
Old 12-15-2010, 04:21 PM
  #7121  
nitro-rob
 
nitro-rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Cambridge, ON, CANADA
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I have a coupon for a castle field card for $10 or castle link for free. Going with the field card since I have the link already. Has anyone used one? Its supposed to have the same functionality as the link.

Too cold here to do anything....
Old 12-15-2010, 04:41 PM
  #7122  
DarksideVR
Senior Member
 
DarksideVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

I have the field card. It has settings for Cutoff voltage, auto lipo shut off, drag brake, brake strength, punch control, reverse type, motor type, and motor timing cheat. It works just fine, kinda handy.
Old 12-15-2010, 04:45 PM
  #7123  
rclugnut10
Senior Member
My Feedback: (1)
 
rclugnut10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hinsburg , VT
Posts: 5,877
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

cant you plug the card into the computer and have it act as a castle link as well or no....

the lug
Old 12-15-2010, 06:16 PM
  #7124  
DarksideVR
Senior Member
 
DarksideVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread


ORIGINAL: rclugnut10

cant you plug the card into the computer and have it act as a castle link as well or no....

the lug
yes it comes with the usb cord to do so
Old 12-16-2010, 02:52 AM
  #7125  
dadon
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: corby, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Official E-FIRESTORM thread

guyzzzz,

Could you tell me how I can fix flux motiv ESC as the middle orange light is not on on any setting???

And in your opinion the ESC from blur version would fit or not? This one originally fitted to HPI Bullet.

If I can't fix it then maybe someone want to buy HPI 5700KV motor)

Re: running in snow.... I had great fun in snow with sand pows on!!!! Go you r worth it!!!


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.