G-Pete

The rivets can be applied before or after the primer.

As for them coming off, they come off only when your surface is covered with oil or dust. This is Oracal 651 - correctly applied you have to cut or sand them off. These little buggers hold on....
Besides that your paint coat will protect them as well. This vinyl is desinged for outdoor use.

I'm in the process for alu ones - that means after you paint the surface you can scrape the paint a little off the rivet and that simulates the loss of paint like on the full scale counterpart.

Tomcat_104

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tfarmer96,

Ouch! That was probably the most thorough testing I've ever seen. You shouldn't have done that just for us, we're not worthy!

Did you put the rivets on before or after the priming? Was this on top of fiberglass or the WOW covering.

Ram-bro

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GOT MINE ALSO. i SHOULD BE APPLYING THEM STARTING NEXT WEEKEND. THANKS PETE

NCIS

Is there anywhere to buy them?

Barry

Hooked-On-RC

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I second that question...I wonder how many of each rivet style one would need for a Yellow Aircraft AT6 Texan??? Anyone know a good spot to source 3 view drawings that show panel lines and rivet details etc?

G-Pete

Barry,
no not yet - be patient grass hopper, the rivets will be with you. Let the guys try them out. As of Saturday morning all of them are on their way.

Hooked,
as for the quantity needed, this depends on you. So far the formula is, 1000 rivets are eqal to 300 inches linear. The Yellow Aircraft has 101 inch wing, the panel wing panel lines add up to 369 inches times 4 = 1992 inches. The fuselage adds up to 258 inches times 2 = 516 inches. The total would be 1992 inches.

1992 inches divided by 23 (one row of rivets) = round up 87 rows, 76 rivets in a row = 6612 rivets

G-Pete

Fuel caps...

Ram-bro

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dang Pete, your hurting me. I came up with a name for your product...ready, wait for it, wait for it wait for it

"G Pete's G-Spots"

splitzed

Great name!!

Just wondering aproximatly when these will be available I am just starting to fiberglass a zirolli dauntless and would be very interested in this application. are we talking weeks months or more than a year away? Thanks Trevor

Pilot P51

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G-Pete
I am currently finishing up my Wingspan B17, 138" ws. I am in need of a whole lot of these little dots. Yours are just what the Doctor is looking for, these will be easy to install. Now the big question is WHEN will they be ready. Plus I have to do some calculations and I may need your help on how may sheets it is going to take. Let me know when you are ready for busness. I also like the gas caps, I am ready for an order of those also.

Walt

mR JoLLy

I tried another way to produce the same effect but with paint rather than stickers. I produced the rivets in Corel and then cut a Paint Mask which was applied to the surface. Paint was wiped over the mask using a credit card (it's like spreading glass cloth resin). When dry the mask was removed and the rivets were exposed. I also dropped a little black in the paint so they would stand out.

The results are very good with nicely spaced artwork. The fuel filler was also made in the same way. While it worked well it is sadly not commercially viable because of the design time required to draw the rivets out on the computer.

More details by [link=http://www.flightlinegraphics.com/projects/ytinternational/p51d/p51d_painting.htm]clicking here[/link]

G-Pete

"G-Spots"  - image the voice of Thornton in the movie Sling Blade ahmmm alreidy than...


I know you guys are looking forward to see them on the website for sale. By mid-week all of the test sheets will be delivered. So, I assume most of them will be tried out, at least by next weekend.
I'm ready for cutting, just waiting for some feedback. By that time I have a pricing and quantity structure. 

G-Pete

Mr. Jolly, interesting stuff you have there. VERY interesting! Expect an e-mail from me about the dry transfer.

mR JoLLy

No worries.

Nigel

JohnMcGowan

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" Uuuumh,.... ahrite then....I like mine with a little mustard!! The little feller werent much bigger than a little squirrel ..... You aint got no gas in it..... Tell the Police to bring a hurst and a ambulance" LOL Thats One of my ALLTIME FAVORITE movies Pete!!! It was on tv about a week ago so I just had to watch it again.
I'll let you know when the G-spot rivets makes it to my place Pete. The mail will not run today(Monday) as its a Federal holiday.
Thank you MUCH!!!!!
John

pilot43

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Beautiful work, but after all Mustang had a secret rivet.Proturberant nearly was not.Or I not rights?

mR JoLLy

Pilot43, you are correct, the rivets on the P51 were very flush to the wings. I was experimenting to see if the riveting would work, it just happened that the Mustang was the next model I was building.

Nigel

pilot43

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Is it Don't care exceed! Such work requires the enormous patience and accuracy! I delighted!

Ram-bro

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Mr. Jolly, now those are nice. When will those also be on the market

GAP-RCU

They won't be. As stated in post 61, they are not commercially viable because of the design time required to draw the rivets out on the computer (mR Jolly's comment), and model airplane hobbyist, as a whole, are too cheap to pay (my comment).

Ram-bro

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heck a set for the TFGS P51 would be a great test market. I did see that it woldnt be very viable but heck all you can do is ask

mR JoLLy

Ram-bro it is difficult deciding on what is viable and what is not. Remember every kit/plan will need it's own scheme drawing out, which would prove very costly to originate. I work full time on decals for modellers now and I am busy 5-6 days a week. There just simply are not enough hours in a day. Maybe later . . .

I too like to build models but find it difficult to get the time now

Attached pic is for the top wing scheme. 4017 rivets (counted by the computer not me [&:])


Nigel

saramos

I'd love to know a little more about your method and what type of equipment you needed for making the masks. I am a Corel user and can appreciate the work that would go into a template like that, especially when you need to take into account the curvature of the surface too.

If I recall correctly, the rivets on the P-51 wings were flush rivets like the rest of the plane, but for most the wing, the countsink ring around them was filled and the wing was painted silver.

Scott

mR JoLLy

Scott it's a Graphtec cutter/plotter, no big secrets really. Half of the battle is knowing how to use the equipment correctly, and that comes with time.

As you can guess I can't turn up to a flying field with a poorly decorated model. I will get flogged for sure

Nigel

saramos

LOL

I have access to a vinyl cutter, but not sure it can cut small enough circles for 1/6 scale of my current project. But for other projects...

I'll have to do some testing!

Thanks,

Scott