hpiracr28

How do i get better traction on my bandit vxl? ive got a 9.6v nimh and i cant even go from 3/4 throttle to full without spinning the tires. im running soft compound dirthawgs. would it be better in the summer since the hot pavement? its -17 in new york so im sure the roads are cold lol

sloppyG

the problem is too much power for the conditions,
maybe pull out a 6 cell pack until conditions improve
you could also mess with gearing or the slipper to reduce power delivery but both of those are less than optimal options

hpiracr28

yea. ive got a 7 cell lying around. but i love more power and torque. maybe ill just put it up for the winter. besides i hate cleaning snow and having frozen shocks. maybe warmer weather will give more grip. plus there is always the option to run on grass as well as pavement. the funny thing is with this new battery is still wont wheelie. it just spins the tires. i want to wheelie

kaiser01

your rear end is too stiff then, soften up the rear and you should pull wheelies.

hpiracr28

how do i make the rear end softer? its all stock except i have some plastinc shock spacers added? do i take those out?

sloppyG

removing preload from the rear doesn't really soften the suspension, but it'll sit lower to start and make it easier to pull wheelies

hpiracr28

i still dont know how im gonna do wheelies. i understand what you guys are saying. a softer rear will make it squat when i hit the throttle. but all it does is just spin the tires. maybe some dirt paws in the grass it will really wheelie. it did it with my old 7 cell nimh just tapping the throttle.

sloppyG

if there's not enough traction it just won't happen

but if the pavement's dry it shouldn't be a problem
wheelies in the grass with a buggy are going to be tough no matter what you do

FahrtAutoRC

Softer compund on your tires/inserts, stronger (torquier) motor, higher output battery and if those dont help, and you STILL have poor traction issues, treat them tires to soften em up, itll work, but youll see a shorter lifespan with em.

ThunderbirdJunkie

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Dirt Hawgs don't come in a soft compound, they're pretty hard. To have something that actually resembles traction, you're going to want to go with M3-or-equivalent compound tires.

hpiracr28

so kinda like street tires so to speak?? i was actually doing wheelies with my buggy in grass. i had dirt paws on the rear. and idk how much more torque i can get...ive got the velineon, 9.6v nimh and its too much torque. im not interested in a lipo. ill just do some different setups and see my results. trial and error is the best way to figure out an issue.

sloppyG

you may actually be hurting your wheelie cause with that heavy nimh pack

a lipo doesn't just make it easier to do wheelies because of the power delivery, it's also much lighter

FahrtAutoRC

A little trick we all out here use to soften our tires and increase traction for racing? Well, our LHS/ indoor HP clay track wont let us use marinades or compounds trackside due to fumes, the only thing we can use THERE is Sticky Kicks (which suck) so we cover our tires with Simple Green, stuff em in a 1-gal ziplock bag for about 24 hours, and voila, soft sticky tires!!! I had even did this to our stock Slash and Blitz sets and it made em worlds better.

cooldriver385

I think softening the suspension makes it harder to wheelie cause the suspension soaks up the rear end rather than going straight up.

ThunderbirdJunkie

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Bingo.

meef rustler

Wd40

hpiracr28

well i checked my suspension. its stiff, but not it still absorbs the bumps. but i still am having the same problem... cant get traction at all. too much torque. idk. i think ill just put it up for the winter. my front end freezer up and there is no arm movement at 0 degrees lol. ill try in the spring. plus a 2wd low profile buggy isnt a snow king lol. but thanks for all the help guys. ill try different setups when the time comes.

LewAshby

Do you want to have traction to win races or wheelies to come in last place?

hpiracr28

well i would like traction to come in first if i was racing. but i just do some bashing and driving around the neighborhood. i just wanted some advice to fix this so i wouldnt spin out every time i hit the throttle hard lol. but wheelies would be cool too

4goodbuys2

Well the main problem is that it is a traxxas and traxxas does not give you the option to add rear toe in also it's not long enough.
I had the same problem with my rustler vxl it would only wheelie's and 360's uncontrollably. I sold the rustler and put the vxl in my blitz and it runs strait and handles well.

LewAshby

Put a 10 lbs weight on the chassis in the rear.

You get both traction and wheelies. Win Win.

4goodbuys2

I thought about adding a little weight to my rustler and maybe adding some length to it to but I just sold it instead.

BKoz559

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Take a classic muscle car for example: build the engine up with massive amounts of power and try to take off in a straight line without loosing control when you mash the throttle at a stop light drag race.

Some ESCs and radio systems have adjustable power curves to tame instant burst of torque durring acceleration. Otherwise, properly adjusting your slipper is a quick aid that usually helps more than it hinders.