is SIG on it's death bed?
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I have two Kobra's and a King kobra that I fly now and have had at least a dozen Kougars in my lifetime of flying since 1983 and love these planes. I also have one Kobra that is new that I am in the middle of finishing now, one Kobra kit, one King Kobra Kit and one Kougar kit on all on the shelf just in case! LOL I have been thinking of ordering another round just to stock them. That should last me the rest of my life! HAHA
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Just buy NIB classics from the auction site. Try here in the forum. Better yet, go to that electric site where they don't know what to do with a balsa kit and they dump it for $20!
There is more balsa hidden away in closets than a man can count, good old fashioned balsa, dense, light, even grain, generous amounts of spruce, hardware, etc. When I build them, I toast the guy that bought it, for choosing a wonderful kit he left behind in his estate. Pica, SiG, Midwest, even Tower are among my favorites. The boxes are yellow, sometimes the plans have a water stain. That is the charm for me. I picked up an old pattern plane kit that had 5 shipping labels layered on the top of the box. It all stops here, and finally sees the building board.
Just buy NIB classics from the auction site. Try here in the forum. Better yet, go to that electric site where they don't know what to do with a balsa kit and they dump it for $20!
There is more balsa hidden away in closets than a man can count, good old fashioned balsa, dense, light, even grain, generous amounts of spruce, hardware, etc. When I build them, I toast the guy that bought it, for choosing a wonderful kit he left behind in his estate. Pica, SiG, Midwest, even Tower are among my favorites. The boxes are yellow, sometimes the plans have a water stain. That is the charm for me. I picked up an old pattern plane kit that had 5 shipping labels layered on the top of the box. It all stops here, and finally sees the building board.
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ORIGINAL: Jim_Purcha
Great, I'll get arrested for snorting and trafficing balsa wood.
Great, I'll get arrested for snorting and trafficing balsa wood.
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Maybe someone could get the Hollywood crowd interested in doing lines of balsa dust. That would bring balsa in by the boat load from Columbia.
Maybe someone could get the Hollywood crowd interested in doing lines of balsa dust. That would bring balsa in by the boat load from Columbia.
I tried snorting coke, but I still prefer Pepsi:-)
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Yep, they build the shape of the blade out of balsa wood. and then carbon fiber over them for the strength. For the same reasons we use balsa (light weight and strong) they use it for the windmill blades. Last year I was covering an event and was talking to Mark Enderby from Balsa USA. He was telling me that one blade from a wind turbine takes one and a half sea containers of balsa to build. In comparison, he said that same about of wood is more than enough to keep Balsa USA running for an entire year!!!!!! So think about that next time you see one of those wind turbine farms when you're out driving!!!! [:@]
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I bet when they build the balsa cores for the windmills that there are huge chunks of scrap left over. It would be a good idea to go scavenging around those windmill blade factories. They might actually be glad to get rid of the scrap, could save them some money!!! Maybe I should go "sniffing" around.
Back to Sig, I love their stuff. I purchased 2 ARF's from them over the years. Their ARF's are super quality, not only because of the wood, but their performance, design, hardware, and the instructions. Sig also sells a lot of other miscellaneous items like castor oil, glues, etc...that is useful to the hobby community despite their lack of balsa wood.
I also purchased a Norvel engine from them that turned out to be great. I know they don't make engines, but the sell and support them well. I have not tried their Aviatronics engines yet, but their prices are super reasonable.
Back to Sig, I love their stuff. I purchased 2 ARF's from them over the years. Their ARF's are super quality, not only because of the wood, but their performance, design, hardware, and the instructions. Sig also sells a lot of other miscellaneous items like castor oil, glues, etc...that is useful to the hobby community despite their lack of balsa wood.
I also purchased a Norvel engine from them that turned out to be great. I know they don't make engines, but the sell and support them well. I have not tried their Aviatronics engines yet, but their prices are super reasonable.
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I don't think there is much worthwhile balsa scrap to be had from the wind blade industry, at least not worthwhile to us modelers. My impression is that most blades are hollow, and use a spar design much like any other wing structure. The balsa is used only as an inner sandwich material between layers of glass and/or carbon.
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I read or heard that the wind turbine blades are currently being manufactured with a very light weight honey comb material that is replacing balsa in that application. Hope it's true as those wind turbine blades are huge. They can eat up a lot of balsa.
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RE: is SIG on it's death bed?
If it wasnt for this thread and another one i saw somewere else i woulnt know that the was a problem with sig kits.
my local hooby shop always has at least 8 to 12 sig kits all the time. so theres no shortage where i live. the shop has been in bussines for 30 years so maybe he gets preferance and get hid order filled fast.
i must add its the only shop i know of that even carries kits. i went to aero tec hobbies near canton/arkron today. they had probley at least 75 arf's and one kit. a great planes ultra sport thats it.
my local hooby shop always has at least 8 to 12 sig kits all the time. so theres no shortage where i live. the shop has been in bussines for 30 years so maybe he gets preferance and get hid order filled fast.
i must add its the only shop i know of that even carries kits. i went to aero tec hobbies near canton/arkron today. they had probley at least 75 arf's and one kit. a great planes ultra sport thats it.
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ORIGINAL: Terry Bolin
If you cant get the balsa from Sig ( Great company!) Then I have great luck with Balsa USA.. Ordered three times last year and loved it all..
Good luck!
If you cant get the balsa from Sig ( Great company!) Then I have great luck with Balsa USA.. Ordered three times last year and loved it all..
Good luck!
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I rec'd a large (>$400 worth) supply of balsa, bass and spruce from SIG ~ 2 months ago without problems. I also ordered an extra 1/6 Cub, dope, dope thinners, Koverall and Stix-It. I love SIG!
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I work in the wind industry and it's great fun. Wind turbines have a whole lot in common with airplanes actually - the blades are just really big wings. Most turbine blades are ~97% fiberglass and hollow. There is a small amount of high strength to weight ratio wood (sometimes balsa, depending on the manufacturer) used in the spar and almost zero carbon fiber - too expensive.
As good wind sites either become used up or unbuildable, wind developers are looking to other areas with less wind. This has really pushed manufacturers to make blades as light, large and efficient as possible. Unfortunately for us RC geeks, cheap and strong balsa will probably continue to be a minority ingredient in turbine blades unless carbon comes down in price.
But I doubt this really has anything to do with the state of affairs at Sig.
As good wind sites either become used up or unbuildable, wind developers are looking to other areas with less wind. This has really pushed manufacturers to make blades as light, large and efficient as possible. Unfortunately for us RC geeks, cheap and strong balsa will probably continue to be a minority ingredient in turbine blades unless carbon comes down in price.
But I doubt this really has anything to do with the state of affairs at Sig.
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The blades used in many wind power projects in the US and Europe are being built in Brazil and shipped overseas. Much of the balsa production in the region is tied up for that construction. We're basically getting the leftovers, which also accounts for the lower quality of wood suppliers and kit-and ARF-makers are getting. Fortunately there are still a few good sources for prime balsa. Unfortunately the prices are going up, just in time for me to be looking at a large purchase for scratch-building for both RC and model railroading.
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Sig has been transitioning into new management and they are are in no way done; that was the message I got directly from the company. So if you are like me you can stop kicking yourself for not ordering when you had the chance. I am told the new owners are afraid to put some money into Sig and improve the company. I was also they told they just received a couple of containers of balsa. Time to order those kits I've been wanting.