Plans for the "Swoose"
09-29-2004, 11:35 AM
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Plans for the "Swoose"
I saw a seaplane that I just have to build. It's called a Swoose. It was featured as one of the AMA member projects show in the latest issue of Model Aviation. The write up said the plans came from Model Airplane News, October 1989. Apparently it is an old Free Flight design that Nick Ziroli converted to R/C. 62" wing span (Gull wing) powered by .40 class 2 cycle. Can anyone give me a lead on plans? I've inquired with MAN and Ziroli but no response yet.
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10-01-2004, 10:14 AM
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RE: Plans for the "Swoose"
I flew one of these a few years ago. It belonged to a fellow from Red Deer, Alberta named Ron Simonson. All I can remember about it is that it was a bit snakey in flight; probably due to those large float supports. There is a LOT of lateral area around of the centre of gravity on this design, so although they look great I would be tempted to go with a more conventional strut design.
10-01-2004, 06:05 PM
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RE: Plans for the "Swoose"
While I have no personal experience, a club member built one a coupla' years ago. It was absolutely cool to look at. He said it was very "twitchy" to fly. Is that like snakey? Not sure. Last I saw he had it for sale. Not sure if he still has it. It was White/Purple and beautiful.
10-02-2004, 01:34 PM
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Snakey would indicate to me it is slightly yaw unstable and has a side to side wiggle. This could be from the large forward area of the struts. If this is the case, I would add a couple of tip type fins, oval shape inboard a few inches from the stab tips. Something that wouls blend with the shape of the plane.
On the other hand, it could just be a little tail heavy or he could be using poor quality servos.
On the other hand, it could just be a little tail heavy or he could be using poor quality servos.
10-03-2004, 09:35 AM
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RE: Plans for the "Swoose"
Snakey, twitchy, whatever, the plans are on the way. Sounds like an ideal place to try one of the new gyro stabilizers. I'm told they are fantastic on the tail rotor of a helicopter. Why not on the rudder of a Swoose?
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04-16-2011, 11:31 AM
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RE: Plans for the
I had always wanted a Ziroli Swoose and finally built one in 2008. Mine is from the Ziroli plans enlarged 20% to yield a 72" span. Power is a Thunder Tiger .75 4C which is perfectly adequate to any maneuver the plane is capable of. Finish is Klass Kote epoxy. The fuse is covered with .50 ounce glass cloth and the wings are covered with antique coverite then painted and the whole plane is Klear Koated. I extended the nose an inch to make it balance as a land plane. Very stable majestic flier which always gets lots of comments at the field.
PS the rudder is way too authoritative, much more than the ailerons.
PS the rudder is way too authoritative, much more than the ailerons.
04-16-2011, 06:33 PM
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RE: Plans for the
The original Swoose was designed by Hal BeBolt in 1940+/-. It was a small free flight plane with an Ohlsonn .23 ignition engine. I built one with a Bantum .19 and flew it off the snow when I lived in New Jersey. Later when Arden came out with the glow plug I converted my Bantum and made a control line out of it. I probably still have the plans around some place. If you're interested I moght be able to dig them up for you.
