Chris Moon

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Possibly, but it would depend on demand and if I can get Chad to draw up a different design. It would all depend on demand though as it is not economical to produce only a few mounts.

wagen017

Flew my Advance today for the first time. I definitely have the impression it runs more efficient then the EVO30-10.

The YGE90HV I use as controller I first tested on my EVO, this seems to run more efficient then the Spin Opto99. Now this controller with the Advance is even better!

Volkert

tho98027

Makes sense. I guess time will tell. The front mount you currently offer looks great by the way. Good work!

shepga

Im very close to finishing up my new Sickle with the Pletty Advanced 30-10. The most chalenging thing in the build was mounting the Pletty Advanced 30-10. Since it requires nose ring with rear support installation I felt it was a liitle bit harder than if it were able to be mounted on a rear fire wall. There was not enough room in the fuse to mount the front motor support using the mounting holes provided in the support. I had to redrill alternate mounting holes and move them in. There was not allot of space to do this. My spinner diameter is either 82mm or 85mm I forgot which. If your spinner is larger than this you should not have this issue. I used 1/8 ply for the nose ring but since the fuse face was 0.2 inches thick I had to install the nose ring up against the inside of the fuse face and with that I barely got the thrust washer to clear the outer fuse face and provide clearance for the spinner. In the first photo you can see the original motor mount hole. This area is on a curved surface, the corner of the fuse face and the fuse side. In the end I got mine installed and I'm very happy with it. If I had to do it again I know what to watch for and the installation would go faster. The motor mounts are excellent quality and very light. I placed the order for my motor mounts on a Friday afternoon and they were in my hands the next Monday afternoon. Great sevice F3A Unlimited.

urs k.

any news?

urs k.

well, just got the news that i will have to wait another month for my advance.

urs k.

yeah, waiting 3 month all in all is a long pain...but ok, got to design the suppoert anyway.

so here is my question:

http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/g...ce30/Masse.htm
pletti says its 68mm in diameter, but this is with the cooling thing. can anybody tell me the excact diameter for the rear support? guess its about 65mm. i need to know it very excactely. lol, none of my questions was answered so far...please, this one would help me.

mola

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Hi Urs,

The rear of the Advance motor is 65mm in diameter.

urs k.

hi morten, thx a lot !!!!!
is it 65,00mm?

mola

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Hi Urs,

Mine is 64.90mm measured with a caliper, so very close to 65mm.

urs k.

hi morten, thx again! very helpful, now i can design it excactely.
think i ll do the rear supprt 65mm and fill then the 0,05mm with some thin glue.

Chris Moon

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Another shipment arrived in the US today..... Lots more happy new Advance-30 customers when these ship out.

urs k.

woooow ! what a picture

tho98027

Any new updates and flight reports on this motor since the weather has warmed up now?

Henning

I have two of these motors and they work very well. Compared to the 30-10 Evo I used to run the Advance runs much cooler, quieter, more power full and I use 300 - 500 mAh less current on one flight of P11. How much which is related to better throttle management I do not now.

The ESC is Schulze 32.80KA with the same throttle curve I used with the Evo.

Regarding propellers:

On my Aries 07 I used the APC 20,5x14 with the Evo and changed to the APC 21x12W with the Advance.

On my Delro Addiction I used the APC 20x13 with the Evo and changed to the APC 20x14 (20,5x14 cut down) with the Advance.


Regards,
Henning

can773

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I have over 100 flights on my Advance this year. It is proving to be an excellent motor.

The main thing I notice is that it runs extremely cool, normally in my conditions the 30-10 Evo would be 60-65C after a flight measuring the can temperature, where the Advance is about 40-45C on the outside of the case. I am sure this is from a number of factors, a) better efficiency, b) finned case and built in fan and c) as an inrunner there is no firewall restriction or rotating components to disrupt the cooling airflow.

I feel it has a much stronger mid-range than the Evo, top end power is slightly improved. Current consumption is about the same or less, but with the extra power, so the efficiency is obviously better (as noticed by the drop in operating temperature).

I use the Falcon 21x14 prop with it and is a great combination.

2Sunny

Chad,

Really sounds like this beast is "THE" next big "Thing" as it does so much so well, but just wondering if you have any inrunner experience with which to make a comparison. Not that I would have the slightest idea of what I'm talking about, but I've heard tell from other great flyers (maybe a dude named something like 'cough' Dave 'cough' ) who have said that inrunners are smoother and quicker to respond than outrunners so it begs the question: Is the Advance smoother and faster to respond?


Thanks,



Joe

can773

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All electrics are smoother and have as good or better response than an IC motor, which still do fine in pattern, so I don't think those are important factors.

The Advance is simply another option for those who don't want to run motors with a gearbox, and IMO a better option than the 30-10 Evo.

tho98027

This is great guys. This motor sounds too good to be true. This leads to my next question. I've always loved the quick throttle response of geared inrunners compared to outrunners. This is my hang up. It seems that outrunners have just a little lag and don't spool up as quick. So, can you tell any difference in throttle response with the advance when compared to the evo? Thanks. I'm so close to just breaking down and buying this motor, guess i just need a little nudge. It's a lot of money for such a little motor. I'm also waiting for the new hacker a60-7s to come out but i'm sick of waiting. I'm even considering shulmans fury f3a motor. Last i checked i can get an advance shipped out asap. it's flying season and i want to fly! Oh. i have a mejzlik 22x12we i would like to use. Too much for the advance? maybe just a regular mejzlik 22x12e. I'll be using a castle ice hv80 with zippy 20c batteries. Also, what is the size of the bolt that goes into the shaft to tighten the prop and also the size of screw needed for the spinner adapter on the advance? pheww. sorry fellas for all the dumb questions. Thanks for any help.

wagen017

I have both the EVO and the Advance. I really love the Advance, it runs so smooth. I am now building up a Spark I bought from another flyer which came with a PT Model 22x12. It pulls 90Amps max so I think it fits well. I also flew it with the MADCAD folding prop. That pulls about 80amps.

Volkert

can773

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You can adjust how quickly a motor comes on its power with the throttle curve. So if I don't like how the motor responds I just change the throttle curve to be more aggressive or vice versa. For me personally I am mainly concerned if a motor is reliable, and makes sufficient power, the rest is just setup. If you use a linear curve, that is your problem. Ramp the curve fast to about 50% output at 25% stick, then linear to the top and you will find the motor far more responsive.

Should be no problem with a 22x12.

Motor comes with a prop adapter, I believe it is an M5 thread in the shaft, and an M3 in to hold on the spinner.

tho98027

Thanks Chad!

Chris Moon

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The Advance 30-10 uses the exact same prop nut/washer assembly as the 30-10 EVO, 30-09 EVO, and 25-12 EVO. 5mm stud and 3mm inside hole for spinner bolt.
(sorry for the blurry pic)

DaveL322

I also run a throttle curve similar to what Chad has noted. I use pretty much the same curve on geared inrunners and outrunners.....the point of the curve is get the power distribution I want....it has no effect on the throttle response.

Given comparable weights (inrunner with gearbox at ~20 oz, and outrunner ~20 oz), the geared motor does have faster throttle response....and it is of no consequence in pattern. Any decent pattern motor and ESC has fast enough throttle response to not be a problem in pattern.

Regards,

s-chester

Hello
I wanted to share an experiment I did out in flying the Wind S pro both motors with a Castle creation ice 80 HV speed controller
The EVO 30 10 and Advens30 10, both of them with a 21x13 propeller and found interesting things
The second Peaks in the graphs is a straight flight in Full Throttle downwind Line
power differences compared to rpm
the advanced did more efficient job then 30-10 evo probably
At home when I was charging the batteries I got in all uses less battery Capacity
But actually when I demand the advanced motor maximum rpm it was higher and using more Power then the EVO30 10
in the same rpm the power was lower for advance