MajorTomski

The DeHavilland Mosquito

Designed as a high speed, "out run the oppostion" bomber, but first employed as a Photo Recon aircraft PR Mk I then a night figher, (NF Mk II) .Then deployed as a level bomber B Mk IV. Evolved to a day figher/ ground attack aircraft (FB Mk VI). Eventually built in multiple countries and copied in Argentina who gave it round engines.

Ironically Friday the 25th is the 71st anniversary of the first flight of the prototype.

Ernie P.

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No correct answers thus far. Although MajorTomski did manage to blow my intended question for Friday. (-: Perhaps another clue will help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

nutz4planes

Lockhead hudson?

Ernie P.

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Still no correct answers, but keep trying. Thanks; Ernie P.

PS: I hope all of you have a wonderful day of Thanksgiving; whatever you may choose to call it. Tnx; EP


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

Ernie P.

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And a morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

(6) It was faster than almost all of the fighters of its time.

MajorTomski

Happy Thanksgiving all

I'll toss up the JU-88 for a morning guess.

Ernie P.

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Nope; not the JU-88, Sir. Enjoy the feast and keep thinking about it. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

(6) It was faster than almost all of the fighters of its time.

(7) It was also very maneuverable.

Red B.

A-26 Invader

Ernie P.

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Good guess, as was the JU-88, but not correct; as this clue will show. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

(6) It was faster than almost all of the fighters of its time.

(7) It was also very maneuverable.

(8) In fact; it was so fast, and so maneuverable, a fighter version was produced.

perttime

Is Frank Barnwell a famous designer?

The Raven

Are we talking the DH98 Mosquito?

Ernie P.

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Yes, I would say he is. However, this isn't a Bristol Fighter. Perhaps another clue is required. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

(6) It was faster than almost all of the fighters of its time.

(7) It was also very maneuverable.

(8) In fact; it was so fast, and so maneuverable, a fighter version was produced.

(9) Tropical versions of the aircraft were produced, as were trainer versions.

Ernie P.

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No, Sir; it is not a Mosquito of any sort. Thanks; Ernie P.

Red B.

Hawker Hart, that evolved into the Demon and Hind?

Ernie P.

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Hey; a great deduction, Red B. It is indeed the famed Hawker Hart (and its other derivatives, to include the Demon and Hardy) to which I refer. A rare single engine biplane light bomber that could out run and out maneuver almost any fighter around. And you are up, Sir. Take it away, Red B.


Question: I’m looking for a warbird which was both successful and very widely used.

Clues:

(1) It was a light bomber.

(2) The design was so successful that a number of derivative aircraft were produced.

(3) It was designed by one of the most famous designers of all time.

(4) It was produced by one of the most famous aircraft manufacturing firms of all time.

(5) It was noted for being very inexpensive to maintain.

(6) It was faster than almost all of the fighters of its time.

(7) It was also very maneuverable.

(8) In fact; it was so fast, and so maneuverable, a fighter version was produced.

(9) Tropical versions of the aircraft were produced, as were trainer versions.

(10) When the light bomber was introduced and used in training exercises, they proved to be almost impossible to intercept. They were often ordered to fly lower and slower, to give the intercepting fighters a chance.

(11) It saw service in the Winter War.

(12) An Army cooperation version was produced, which included a hook to pick up messages.

(13) There was, of course, a float version.

(14) It, and its derivatives, served in at least 18 different air services..

Answer: The Hawker Hart




The Hawker Hart was a British two-seater biplane light bomber of the Royal Air Force (RAF), which had a prominent role during the RAF's inter-war period. The Hart was designed during the 1920s by Sydney Camm and built by Hawker Aircraft. It spawned several variants, including a naval version.
In 1926, the Air Ministry stated a requirement for a two-seat high-performance light day-bomber, to be of all-metal construction and with a maximum speed of 160 mph (258 km/h). Designs were tendered by Hawker, Avro and de Havilland.[1] Fairey, who had sold a squadron's worth of its wooden Fox bomber in 1925, was not at first invited to tender to the specification, and was only sent a copy of the specification after protesting to the Chief of the Air Staff, Hugh Trenchard.[2][3]
Hawker's design was a single-bay biplane powered by a Rolls-Royce F.XI water-cooled V12 engine (the engine that later became known as the Rolls-Royce Kestrel). It had, as the specification required, a metal structure, with a fuselage structure of steel-tube covered by aluminium panels and fabric, with the wings having steel spars and duralumin ribs, covered in fabric. The crew of two sat in individual tandem cockpits, with the pilot sitting under the wing trailing edge, and operating a single .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers machine gun mounted on the port side of the cockpit. The observer sat behind the pilot, and was armed with a single Lewis gun on a ring mount, while for bomb-aiming, he lay prone under the pilots seat.[4] Up to 520 pounds (240 kg) of bombs could be carried under the aircraft's wings.[5]
J9052, the prototype Hart, first flew in June 1928, being delivered to the Aeroplane and Armament Experimental Establishment at RAF Martlesham Heath on 8 September. It demonstrated good performance and handling, reaching 176 mph (283 km/h) in level flight and 282 mph (454 km/h) in a vertical dive.[6][7] The competition culminated in the choice of the Hawker Hart in April 1929. The de Havilland Hound was rejected due to handling problems during landing and because of its part-wooden primary structure. While the Avro Antelope demonstrated similar performance and good handling, the Hart was preferred as it was far cheaper to maintain, a vital aspect to a programme during defence budget constraints that the British armed forces faced during the 1920s. The Fairey Fox IIM (which despite the name was effectively an all-new aircraft), delayed by Fairey's late start on the design compared to the other competitors, only flew for the first time on 25 October 1929, long after the Hart had been selected.[6]
A total of 992 aircraft were built as Harts.[8][N 1] It became the most widely used light bomber of its time and the design would prove to be a successful one with a number of derivatives, including the Hawker Hind and Hector, being made. There were a number of Hart variants made, though only slight alterations were made. The Hart India was basically a tropicalised version of the aircraft; the Hart Special was another tropicalised version based on the Hawker Audax, a Hart variant, with desert equipment; a specialised Hart Trainer was also designed. Vickers built 114 of the latter model at Weybridge between 1931 and June 1936.[9]
The production Hart day bomber had a single 525 hp (390 kW) Rolls-Royce Kestrel IB 12-cylinder V-type engine; a speed of 184 mph (296 km/h) and a range of 470 mi (757 km).[10] It was faster than most contemporary fighters, an astonishing achievement considering it was a light bomber, and had high manoeuvrability, making the Hart one of the most effective biplane bombers ever produced for the Royal Air Force. In particular, it was faster than the Bristol Bulldog, which had recently entered service as the RAF's front line fighter. This disparity in performance led the RAF to gradually replace the Bulldog with the Hawker Fury.[11]
Demand for the bomber was such that 164 were built by Vickers-Armstrongs at its Weybridge factory at Brooklands between 1931 and 1936 after that company's submission of a tender, alongside the trainers mentioned above.
The Hart entered service with No. 33 Squadron RAF in February 1930, replacing the larger and slower Hawker Horsley. No. 12 Squadron replaced its Foxes with Harts in January 1931, with a further two British-based Hart light bomber squadrons forming during 1931.[12]
Harts were deployed to the Middle East during the Abyssinia Crisis of 1935–1936. The Hart saw extensive and successful service on the North-West Frontier, British India during the inter-war period. Four Hawker Harts from the Swedish Air Force saw action as dive bombers during the 1939-1940 Winter War as part of a Swedish volunteer squadron, designated F19, fighting on the Finnish side. Though obsolete compared to the United Kingdom's opposition at the start of the Second World War, the Hart continued in service, mainly performing in the communications and training roles until being declared obsolete in 1943.[13]
The Hart proved to be a successful export, seeing service with the Royal Egyptian Air Force, Royal Indian Air Force, South African Air Force, Estonian Air Force, Southern Rhodesia, Sweden (where it was designated B4) and Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
Swedish Air Force General Bjorn Bjuggren wrote in his memoirs how his squadron developed dive-bombing techniques in the mid-1930s for their B4s. [N 2] When the Hawker engineers found out, they issued a formal objection, saying that the aircraft had not been designed for that purpose; however, Swedish pilots proved that the aircraft was up to that task and dispelled their concern.[14]
The Hawker Demon was a fighter variant of the Hart light bomber. It was developed as when the Hart entered service, it was virtually uninterceptable by the RAF's fighters, which was demonstrated in air defence exercises where they were sometimes instructed to restrict their height and speed in order to give the RAF's Siskins and Bulldogs a chance.[26] While the Hawker Fury offered better performance, it was expensive and was only available in small numbers, so when a fighter version of the Hart was suggested, the Air Ministry selected the type as an interim fighter until higher performance dedicated fighters could be bought in larger numbers.[27] The new fighter variant added a second Vickers machine gun, while the coaming of the rear cockpit was angled to give a better field of fire, and a supercharged Kestrel IS engine was fitted. Evaluation of an initial batch of six aircraft, known as Hart Fighters by one flight of 23 Squadron during 1931 was successful, and larger orders followed for the fighter Hart, now known as the Hawker Demon.[28]
Over 200 Hawker Demons were built for the RAF. The Demon were powered by varying types of the Kestrel engine. It had an armament of a single rear .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis Gun with two .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers machine guns in the nose. Large numbers of the type were fitted with a hydraulically powered turret in the rear, which had been tested on the Hawker Hart. The Demon was also sold to the Royal Australian Air Force. It saw only brief second line operations during the Second World War.
Production of the Demon was by Hawker and by Boulton Paul Aircraft, Norwich.
Hart Two-Seat Fighter
Two-seat fighter version of the Hart for the RAF. Later redesignated as the Hart Fighter.
Demon I
Two-seat fighter aircraft for the RAF.
Australian Demon I
Two-seat fighter aircraft for the RAAF, similar to RAF version but fitted with a 600 hp (447 kW) Rolls Royce Kestrel V engine; 54 built (the first 18 delivered as general purpose fighters in 1935 and an additional 36 for army co-operation duties delivered in 1936).
Australian Demon II
Two-seat training version for the RAAF, standard Demon fitted with dual controls and provision for target towing, 10 built
Turret Demon
Two-seat fighter version, fitted with a Frazer-Nash gun turret in the rear cockpit.
Hardy
The Hawker Hardy was general-purpose variant of the Hawker Hart tropicalised to meet Air Ministry Specification G.23/33 as a Wapiti replacement in Iraq. The prototype was a production Hart which was modified with a modified radiator, a message pick-up hook, water containers and a desert survival kit. The prototype first flew on 7 September 1934, and the first production aircraft were delivered to 30 Squadron in January 1935. The Hardy saw some service during the Second World War, in Africa and the Middle East; the Hardys performing a number of operations against Italian-occupied Abyssinia as well as other areas of Africa. The Hardy also saw service with Southern Rhodesia. The last operational sortie by a Hardy was on 9 May 1941 and most of the survivors were scrapped, although some continued in service as communications aircraft. On 14 May 1941, the Belgian Colonial authorities obtained a Hawker Hardy from the South African Air Force. Painted in Belgian colours, the machine was used for observation missions, but unfortunately overturned while landing at Gambela airfield on 26 May 1941, effectively writing off the aircraft.
Hardy I
Two-seat general-purpose aircraft for the RAF, 47 built excluding one prototype modified from a Hart.
[edit] Hind
Main article: Hawker Hind


Hawker Hind, flying example in Shuttleworth Collection
The Hawker Hind was a derivative of the Hart and was intended to replace it. The Hawker Hector was a variant of the Hind and was used in the army co-operation role. It saw only limited service during the Second World War with the Royal Air Force. Hectors were also sold to Ireland.
[edit] Osprey
The Hawker Osprey was the navalised carrier-borne version of the Hart, performing in the fighter and reconnaissance roles. The Osprey had a single Rolls-Royce Kestrel II engine, and had a max speed of 168 mph (270 km/h). Its armament consisted of a single forward .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers machine gun and one .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis gun. The Osprey joined the Fleet Air Arm (FAA) in 1932, with just over 100 being built, and ended its career in 1944 after serving as a trainer for FAA pilots during her career in the Second World War. The Osprey was also sold to the Swedish Air Force being used on the seaplane cruiser HMS Gotland, which carried six Ospreys. Ospreys were also sold to the air forces of Portugal and the Spanish Republican Air Force.
Osprey I
Two-seat fleet spotter and reconnaissance aircraft, power by a 630 hp (470 kW) Rolls-Royce Kestrel IIMS inline piston engine; 37 built.
Osprey II
Two-seat fleet spotter and reconnaissance aircraft, powered by a 630 hp (470 kW) Rolls-Royce Kestrel IIMS piston engine, equipped with redesigned floats; 14 built.
Osprey III
Tho-seat fleet spotter and reconnaissance aircraft, powered by a 630 hp (470 kW) Rolls-Royce Kestrel IIMS piston engine, equipped with a dinghy stowed away in the starboard upper wing; 26 built.
Osprey IV
Two-seat fleet spotter and reconnaissance aircraft, powered by a Rolls-Royce Kestrel V inline piston engine.
Portuguese Osprey
One aircraft fitted with a Rolls-Royce Kestrel IIMS piston engine; one built for Portugal.
Spanish Osprey
One aircraft fitted with a Hispano-Suiza 12Xbrs engine; one built for Spain.
Swedish Osprey
Six aircraft fitted with a Swedish-built NOHAB Bristol Mercury radial piston engine; six built for the Swedish Air Force who gave them the military designation S 9H (with floats) and S 9 (on wheels).
Hawker Hart
β€’ Afghanistan
β€’ Canada
β€’ Egypt
β€’ Estonia
β€’ British India
β€’ Persia
β€’ South Africa
β€’ Southern Rhodesia
β€’ Sweden
β€’ United Kingdom
β€’ Kingdom of Yugoslavia
[edit] Hawker Audax
β€’ British India
β€’ Canada
β€’ Egypt
β€’ Iraq
β€’ Persia
β€’ Southern Rhodesia
β€’ Straits Settlements
β€’ United Kingdom
[edit] Hawker Demon
β€’ Australia
β€’ United Kingdom
[edit] Hawker Hardy
β€’ United Kingdom
β€’ Southern Rhodesia
β€’ Belgium (one aircraft, ex-RAF K4316)
β€’ Belgian Congo
[edit] Hawker Hartebees
β€’ South Africa
[edit] Hawker Osprey
β€’ Portugal
β€’ Spanish Republic
β€’ Sweden
β€’ United Kingdom
[edit] Specifications (Hart (Kestrel IB powered day bomber))
Data from The British Bomber since 1914[8]
General characteristics
β€’ Crew: 2
β€’ Length: 29 ft 4 in (8.94 m)
β€’ Wingspan: 37 ft 3 in (11.36 m)
β€’ Height: 10 ft 5 in (3.18 m)
β€’ Wing area: 349.5 ftΒ² (32.5 mΒ²)
β€’ Airfoil: RAF 28[10]
β€’ Empty weight: 2,530 lb (1,150 kg)
β€’ Max takeoff weight: 4,596 lb (2,089 kg)
β€’ Powerplant: 1 Γ— Rolls-Royce Kestrel IB water-cooled V12 engine, 510 hp (380 kW)
Performance
β€’ Maximum speed: 161 kn (185 mph, 298 km/h) at 13,000 ft
β€’ Stall speed: 39 kn (45 mph, 72 km/h) [29]
β€’ Range: 374 nmi (430 mi, 692 km)
β€’ Service ceiling: 22,800 ft (6,950 m)
β€’ Wing loading: 13.2 lb/ftΒ² (64.3 kg/mΒ²)
β€’ Power/mass: 0.11 hp/lb (0.182 kW/kg)
β€’ Climb to 10,000 ft 8 minutes, 30 seconds
Armament
β€’ Guns: 1 Γ— synchronised forward firing .303 in (7.7 mm) Vickers machine gun, 1 Γ— .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis Gun on Scarff ring in rear cockpit.
β€’ Bombs: Up to 500 lb (227 kg) bombs under wings.

Red B.

The aircraft I am looking for

1) Was a two seat aircraft
2) Saw action in an armed conflict where it destroyed aircraft of Soviet Union origin
3) Was evaluated by, but did not see service in the air force of its country of origin
4) Was licence built in Germany

Ernie P.

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All;

I'll be out of pocket for the next 48 - 72 hours. Thanks; Ernie P.

perttime

I don't want to ask another question now I'll just sit back to see who gets it

Red B.

2a) The conflict took place in Africa in the late 60s.
5) The production version was based on a prototype built in the U.S. that used a different engine and fin/rudder
7) The main armament was 68 mm French MATRA rockets with armour piercing warheads

nutz4planes

Northrop F-5E?

Red B.

No, its not the F-5E.

8) The aircraft has side by side seating.

Edit:
This appears to be a tricky question... :-)

9) Altogether approx. 250 aircraft of the type were built. Of those approx. 200 were built in Germany

10) The designer of the prototype was employed by Convair, but the aircraft in question was not a Convair aircraft.

perttime

It is easier to follow this if you keep all clues in every post

Does everybody think it is a fast fighter?

a65l

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Cessna A-37

Red B.

Good guess, but it is not an aircraft manufactured by a U.S. company.
Think COIN...

Ernie P.

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Well... actually... no. Quite the opposite, in fact. But, I'm also enjoying the spectator role. Thanks; Ernie P.