3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
02-24-2012, 09:54 PM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
ORIGINAL: SeaJay
Ok, Fellas I am a confused flyer, as I don't know my place... I thought I was a Circle flyer, but most of my circles are on the Vertical axis, and not the Horizontal axis!! am I a budding 3D pilot, or a Circle flyer with Dyscirclia??
BTW, Crash... loved the Narriation in that Vid!!
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Ok, Fellas I am a confused flyer, as I don't know my place... I thought I was a Circle flyer, but most of my circles are on the Vertical axis, and not the Horizontal axis!! am I a budding 3D pilot, or a Circle flyer with Dyscirclia??
BTW, Crash... loved the Narriation in that Vid!!
Craig.
02-25-2012, 05:41 AM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
Videos with multiple replays (even more than reality crash shows), and super slow-mo to boot: 
Videos with Pro Bros:
+1 crash99!
Videos with Pro Bros:
+1 crash99!
02-25-2012, 07:01 AM
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Guys please don't hate me, some of my best friends are circle fliers, and I'm one of those FOG's. I admit I've even assoicated with FOG circle flyers.
Now I've tried to 3D fly to no avail, and I guess thats what has made me the danerous one.
Still I've had more problems from your aerobatic flyers than I ever had from FOG's and circle fliers.
I get out there and try to hover and harrier and the likes. Only to have these aerobatic snobs make rude remarks and judge me like I'm an IMAC pilot and turn their nose up at me.
Mean while your circle flyers, FOG's and 3D fliers, tell me nice try.
Now I've tried to 3D fly to no avail, and I guess thats what has made me the danerous one.
Still I've had more problems from your aerobatic flyers than I ever had from FOG's and circle fliers.
I get out there and try to hover and harrier and the likes. Only to have these aerobatic snobs make rude remarks and judge me like I'm an IMAC pilot and turn their nose up at me.
Mean while your circle flyers, FOG's and 3D fliers, tell me nice try.
02-25-2012, 08:26 AM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
ORIGINAL: kerwin50
Yes 3D flyers are very dangerous. they get out there and start doing all this 3D flying and the next thing you know your out there buying a 3D plane and your wallet starts getting dangerously low.
I know they did that to me.
Even though I'll never be a 3D flyer and always be a want to be.
O the pain of it all.
Why couldn't you guys have left me as a circle flyer instead of getting out there and having all this fun and even providing all this fun to others.
Yes 3D flyers are very dangerous. they get out there and start doing all this 3D flying and the next thing you know your out there buying a 3D plane and your wallet starts getting dangerously low.
I know they did that to me.
Even though I'll never be a 3D flyer and always be a want to be.
O the pain of it all.
Why couldn't you guys have left me as a circle flyer instead of getting out there and having all this fun and even providing all this fun to others.
02-25-2012, 08:57 AM
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I fly 3D down at my field when I bring her down pop it up in a hover in front of me I feel a lot safer then the circle flyer next to me that comes in and about takes our heads off?????
02-25-2012, 09:03 AM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
3D is what saved me from burn out from flying RC sport planes. When Morris Hobbies first came on the scene I got the SuDoKoi kit, demo video and the Rossi .45 that he made part of a package deal.
The SuDoKoi was a good 3D trainer, I still have it. A little on the heavy side, but built to take some rough handling by a 3D novice looking for stick time.
A lot of wisdom went into that Tom Stryker design and building the kit was an educational experience for how light certain parts can be built and still be strong enough for the forces of flight.
After beating the tar out of that engine for many years I called Morris for replacement parts and spoke with Mr Morris himself. I let him know how much I enjoyed having been introduced to 3D and really thanked him a lot. At the end of the conversation I asked him what the bill was for the rebuild kit for the engine and he told me the engine was still under warrantee.......
Well, that was too nice of him but he made a customer and a fan of his for life.
The SuDoKoi was a good 3D trainer, I still have it. A little on the heavy side, but built to take some rough handling by a 3D novice looking for stick time.
A lot of wisdom went into that Tom Stryker design and building the kit was an educational experience for how light certain parts can be built and still be strong enough for the forces of flight.
After beating the tar out of that engine for many years I called Morris for replacement parts and spoke with Mr Morris himself. I let him know how much I enjoyed having been introduced to 3D and really thanked him a lot. At the end of the conversation I asked him what the bill was for the rebuild kit for the engine and he told me the engine was still under warrantee......
.Well, that was too nice of him but he made a customer and a fan of his for life.
02-25-2012, 12:34 PM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
Uh Oh, Not the dreaded hovertorqurollilasjvn ohhh no, it's getting so bad I can't even say it correctly.... I think I have been suffering from some early symptoms of hovertorqunazkz Akk.... it;s getting worse, and I have been noticing some of the symptoms you listed for quite awhile now!!!! Is there a cure, or at least something to slow the progression of this dreaded disease???
Craig.
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02-25-2012, 12:51 PM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
ORIGINAL: SeaJay
Is there a cure, or at least something to slow the progression of this dreaded disease???
Craig.
Is there a cure, or at least something to slow the progression of this dreaded disease???
Craig.
No known cure...... The only thing that eases the pain is MORE stick time.
02-25-2012, 02:03 PM
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Man you guys don't know what danger is !!!
I was just out to the field to do some ski flying., and its located at the end T of a long flat stretch of county road, for the third time in about 3 years someone has flown off the road, jumped the ditch, bashed thru the steel gate, and drove across the field and runway...
I am still trying to figure out who to blame, because they did make a big arcing circle turn thru the cornfield ..BUT I know from the looks of the tracks, they were DEFINITELY doing some abrupt direction changes with at least one high aspect angle launch !!!
thankfully they didn't do any drag racing on our petrol mat runway this time...
I was just out to the field to do some ski flying., and its located at the end T of a long flat stretch of county road, for the third time in about 3 years someone has flown off the road, jumped the ditch, bashed thru the steel gate, and drove across the field and runway...
I am still trying to figure out who to blame, because they did make a big arcing circle turn thru the cornfield ..BUT I know from the looks of the tracks, they were DEFINITELY doing some abrupt direction changes with at least one high aspect angle launch !!!
thankfully they didn't do any drag racing on our petrol mat runway this time...
02-25-2012, 04:28 PM
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In my experience, 3D flyers can and often ARE a danger. The worst thing is some of you guys should know better....you make fun of the circle flyers that "nearly take your head off with thier plane" but these are inexperienced pilots that may just be learning....the 3D guys on the other hand knows what he is doing ( or should anyway) and yet you will find them hovering in your face or all over the runway in front of the pilot boxes. I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land "around" his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
02-25-2012, 04:56 PM
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Actually looking through the thread the only WAAA WAAAing I see is from the 3D bunch complaining about everyone else. This is all sort of redundant don't you think? Isn't bad behavior supposed to be regulated by each club? Each club should have a definite set of rules each member must sign that they have read, understood and agree to abide by as a condition of their membership. Wear out your welcome see ya later, get along and everyone has a good time. It becomes self regulating. Our club follows this system and there is plenty of time for every discipline to fly as much as they want.
02-25-2012, 05:04 PM
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ORIGINAL: InboundLZ
In my experience, 3D flyers can and often ARE a danger. The worst thing is some of you guys should know better....you make fun of the circle flyers that ''nearly take your head off with thier plane'' but these are inexperienced pilots that may just be learning....the 3D guys on the other hand knows what he is doing ( or should anyway) and yet you will find them hovering in your face or all over the runway in front of the pilot boxes. I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
In my experience, 3D flyers can and often ARE a danger. The worst thing is some of you guys should know better....you make fun of the circle flyers that ''nearly take your head off with thier plane'' but these are inexperienced pilots that may just be learning....the 3D guys on the other hand knows what he is doing ( or should anyway) and yet you will find them hovering in your face or all over the runway in front of the pilot boxes. I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
Could it be that 3D isnt really the "problem" there , but that one selfish pilot's attitude IS ???? We have all seen inconsiderate behavior from people of all walks of life , and I'm not yet ready to declare that any one group has a monopoly on rude , antisocial behavior .
Of course , Hovering over an active runway is just plain rude , but I hasten to judge an entire flying style by the actions of a couple of jerks . Yes , we have 3D flying at the club I belong to , , and yes , we have considerate flyers who will stay out of the pattern when hovering , so no , there is no "3D problem" where I fly ....
Now , If everyone could just be trained to take their old coffee cups and other trash with them when they leave , , , , Ah well , , at least they dont hover over an active runway
02-25-2012, 08:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: init4fun
Could it be that 3D isnt really the ''problem'' there , but that one selfish pilot's attitude IS ????
We have all seen inconsiderate behavior from people of all walks of life , and I'm not yet ready to declare that any one group has a monopoly on rude , antisocial behavior .
Of course , Hovering over an active runway is just plain rude , but I hasten to judge an entire flying style by the actions of a couple of jerks . Yes , we have 3D flying at the club I belong to , , and yes , we have considerate flyers who will stay out of the pattern when hovering , so no , there is no ''3D problem'' where I fly ....
Now , If everyone could just be trained to take their old coffee cups and other trash with them when they leave , , , , Ah well , , at least they dont hover over an active runway
ORIGINAL: InboundLZ
In my experience, 3D flyers can and often ARE a danger. The worst thing is some of you guys should know better....you make fun of the circle flyers that ''nearly take your head off with thier plane'' but these are inexperienced pilots that may just be learning....the 3D guys on the other hand knows what he is doing ( or should anyway) and yet you will find them hovering in your face or all over the runway in front of the pilot boxes. I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
In my experience, 3D flyers can and often ARE a danger. The worst thing is some of you guys should know better....you make fun of the circle flyers that ''nearly take your head off with thier plane'' but these are inexperienced pilots that may just be learning....the 3D guys on the other hand knows what he is doing ( or should anyway) and yet you will find them hovering in your face or all over the runway in front of the pilot boxes. I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
Could it be that 3D isnt really the ''problem'' there , but that one selfish pilot's attitude IS ???? We have all seen inconsiderate behavior from people of all walks of life , and I'm not yet ready to declare that any one group has a monopoly on rude , antisocial behavior .
Of course , Hovering over an active runway is just plain rude , but I hasten to judge an entire flying style by the actions of a couple of jerks . Yes , we have 3D flying at the club I belong to , , and yes , we have considerate flyers who will stay out of the pattern when hovering , so no , there is no ''3D problem'' where I fly ....
Now , If everyone could just be trained to take their old coffee cups and other trash with them when they leave , , , , Ah well , , at least they dont hover over an active runway
02-25-2012, 08:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: jessiej
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
The guys who felt their spare time and air space was worth more than everyone else's were some of the pattern flyers before any 3D Primadonnas were even born.
02-25-2012, 08:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: combatpigg
AMEN..!
The guys who felt their spare time and air space was worth more than everyone else's were some of the pattern flyers before any 3D Primadonnas were even born.
ORIGINAL: jessiej
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
The guys who felt their spare time and air space was worth more than everyone else's were some of the pattern flyers before any 3D Primadonnas were even born.
You noticed that also?
A jerk is a jerk no matter what he is doing.
02-25-2012, 09:41 PM
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RE: 3Ders are so dangerous! Brotherhood of Circle Flyers
ORIGINAL: 3DHUSKER
You noticed that also?
A jerk is a jerk no matter what he is doing.
ORIGINAL: combatpigg
AMEN..!
The guys who felt their spare time and air space was worth more than everyone else's were some of the pattern flyers before any 3D Primadonnas were even born.
ORIGINAL: jessiej
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
I find that I dislike all forms of model aircraft equally when they are flown by jerks.
jess
The guys who felt their spare time and air space was worth more than everyone else's were some of the pattern flyers before any 3D Primadonnas were even born.
You noticed that also?
A jerk is a jerk no matter what he is doing.
02-26-2012, 03:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: Propworn
Well now another touch and no go
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzuhUVtzwM&feature=related[/youtube]
Well now another touch and no go
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzuhUVtzwM&feature=related[/youtube]
02-26-2012, 10:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: InboundLZ
I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
To think that this pilot would be inconsiderate enough to crash his plane right in the middle of the runway so that you had be inconvenienced during the landing of your jet. My god...what is this world coming to?
Gee...I have never seen a person fly 3D in a pattern. Do you have some videos of this? Haw
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02-26-2012, 10:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: OldRookie
I just can't even imagine the gall of these 3D flyers.
To think that this pilot would be inconsiderate enough to crash his plane right in the middle of the runway so that you had be inconvenienced during the landing of your jet. My god...what is this world coming to?
Gee...I have never seen a person fly 3D in a pattern. Do you have some videos of this? Haw
Greg
ORIGINAL: InboundLZ
I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
I have been nearly mid-aired on more than one occaision by these 3D types and I had one incident where Captian Ding-A-Ling stacked up his 3D bag of balsa on the runway effectively shutting it down, which is all well and good if I had not been up flying my turbine equipment. Did I manage to land ''around'' his newly kitted aircraft, sure, but I should not have had too.
I say live and let live, right up until you stop me from doing the same....if you are going to fly 3D so be it, to each his own...but lets do it in the pattern and not in everyones face!
To think that this pilot would be inconsiderate enough to crash his plane right in the middle of the runway so that you had be inconvenienced during the landing of your jet. My god...what is this world coming to?
Gee...I have never seen a person fly 3D in a pattern. Do you have some videos of this? Haw
Greg
I'll only "hog the runway" for a minute or 2 if nobody else is planning on going up. On a busy day, I'm happy to hover and fool around down range from the runway.
I've never understood the need to hover with the plane right in my face and would never dream of exposing any other pilots to that sort of risk.
02-26-2012, 11:38 AM
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The general idea is that InboundLZ is a self centered azz.
Unless hovering over the runway is specifically forbidden at his flying field, he is totally in the wrong, and to believe that the 3D flyer has the audacity to make a mess on the runway just as he was ready to land, proves he is a self centered azz.
Seeing as flying between the runway and flight stations is forbidden, flying over the runway is the perfect distance. Not difficult to understand at all for most of us.
Greg
Unless hovering over the runway is specifically forbidden at his flying field, he is totally in the wrong, and to believe that the 3D flyer has the audacity to make a mess on the runway just as he was ready to land, proves he is a self centered azz.
Seeing as flying between the runway and flight stations is forbidden, flying over the runway is the perfect distance. Not difficult to understand at all for most of us.
Greg
02-26-2012, 12:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: OldRookie
Unless hovering over the runway is specifically forbidden at his flying field, he is totally in the wrong.......
Seeing as flying between the runway and flight stations is forbidden, flying over the runway is the perfect distance.
Greg
Unless hovering over the runway is specifically forbidden at his flying field, he is totally in the wrong.......
Seeing as flying between the runway and flight stations is forbidden, flying over the runway is the perfect distance.
Greg
Except for landings, takeoffs and announced touch and goes [with other pilot's present at the pilots stations] none of the fields I fly at condone prolonged flight right over the runway unless they are having a fun fly event. The bulk of the flying should be down range of the runway.
Anyone who thinks that hovering right over the runway with other pilots busy flying their own planes is a clueless moron.
If you are amongst like minded flyers who are all onboard with "group hovers" over the runway, then of course have at it. Just don't mindlessly, or foolishly expose other flyers to that sort of risk and expect them to be happy with it.