SYSSA 30CC GAS MADE IN USA
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So this has really brought some bashers out who have no actual experience with the engine, or even an attempted purchase! Clearly, being a small operation Syssa has its issues. On the other hand I have two of these great engines and they are not only pieces of mechanical art but haul hard and are very reliable. I have always had rapid, constructive and friendly replies from Todd when I have had a question. Clearly, he's an engineer and is desperately in need of some "e-commerce" skills. The web site is a mess and doesnt even list the many things he has for sale (but you have to know he has them...). As small business person he's probably not resourced enough to juggle all these balls in the air. It would be the greatest of pities to see this promising designer/engineer go down. Somebody local needs to help him with the "e-business" before the DA35 kills him off - perhaps in exchange for an engine or two......
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If you read other forums, you might see Syssa has issues with follow through. I hope they have been able to correct that, but I know of 2 guys that never saw their orders or refunds. It is enough to turn me away, regardless of how well its made or where its made.
If you read other forums, you might see Syssa has issues with follow through. I hope they have been able to correct that, but I know of 2 guys that never saw their orders or refunds. It is enough to turn me away, regardless of how well its made or where its made.
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Was not intended as a "basher" That is about the most unfair assumption from my post.
I simply stated facts....... I also stated I hope he can get this worked out......but its been an ongoing problem for almost a year now.
I simply stated facts....... I also stated I hope he can get this worked out......but its been an ongoing problem for almost a year now.
ORIGINAL: Beej
So this has really brought some bashers out who have no actual experience with the engine, or even an attempted purchase! Clearly, being a small operation Syssa has its issues. On the other hand I have two of these great engines and they are not only pieces of mechanical art but haul hard and are very reliable. I have always had rapid, constructive and friendly replies from Todd when I have had a question. Clearly, he's an engineer and is desperately in need of some "e-commerce" skills. The web site is a mess and doesnt even list the many things he has for sale (but you have to know he has them...). As small business person he's probably not resourced enough to juggle all these balls in the air. It would be the greatest of pities to see this promising designer/engineer go down. Somebody local needs to help him with the "e-business" before the DA35 kills him off - perhaps in exchange for an engine or two......
Beej
So this has really brought some bashers out who have no actual experience with the engine, or even an attempted purchase! Clearly, being a small operation Syssa has its issues. On the other hand I have two of these great engines and they are not only pieces of mechanical art but haul hard and are very reliable. I have always had rapid, constructive and friendly replies from Todd when I have had a question. Clearly, he's an engineer and is desperately in need of some "e-commerce" skills. The web site is a mess and doesnt even list the many things he has for sale (but you have to know he has them...). As small business person he's probably not resourced enough to juggle all these balls in the air. It would be the greatest of pities to see this promising designer/engineer go down. Somebody local needs to help him with the "e-business" before the DA35 kills him off - perhaps in exchange for an engine or two......
Beej
ORIGINAL: PropsnWings
If you read other forums, you might see Syssa has issues with follow through. I hope they have been able to correct that, but I know of 2 guys that never saw their orders or refunds. It is enough to turn me away, regardless of how well its made or where its made.
If you read other forums, you might see Syssa has issues with follow through. I hope they have been able to correct that, but I know of 2 guys that never saw their orders or refunds. It is enough to turn me away, regardless of how well its made or where its made.
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If it's been a year and no sassa eng ...it's time to file a complaint to the states attorney office of consumer affairs in connecticut .....the office address is ...165 capitol ave hartford, ct.06106 and you will either have your eng or your money back in 30 days .....go to WWW.ct.gov/dcp.......
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I own 3 of these engines and have never experienced anything but the best service. Yes, I too have waited to get something I ordered, but then when I needed some different size standoffs, Todd sent them USPS Priority mail and I got them in 2 days. I wrecked one of my planes and did some serious damage to the engine. Sent it in, Todd fixed it, and I got it back in about 3 weeks. Couldn't be happier. I experienced some of the same engine starting problems with one of my engines. Had helluva time getting it to draw fuel and run right. When I got it running, I discovered that what it needed was just a little time running on the ground. Kinda like the break-in you would do with an ABC nitro engine. After that, it runs perfectly. Syssa is a good company that makes a tremendous product that you will be very happy with. Be patient and your patience will be rewarded.
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If it's been a year and no sassa eng ...it's time to file a complaint to the states attorney office of consumer affairs in connecticut .....the office address is ...165 capitol ave hartford, ct.06106 and you will either have your eng or your money back in 30 days .....go to WWW.ct.gov/dcp.......
If it's been a year and no sassa eng ...it's time to file a complaint to the states attorney office of consumer affairs in connecticut .....the office address is ...165 capitol ave hartford, ct.06106 and you will either have your eng or your money back in 30 days .....go to WWW.ct.gov/dcp.......
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Just checked the mail and I did NOT get my engine. In fact I dont know if it is in the works to be shipped if he is in fact shipping me an engine or not. I have heard squat. The only thing I know is My Paypal account deposited in his account and the transaction was completed....since nothing from SYSSA shouldn't I at least get a kiss..Jim
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I don't know about you people but for me this engine is a paice of Garbage i have been trying to get this engine working rite for almost a month now and still no good at least my little chinese 26 cc gets more rpm's with the same prop on it and if the carb is no good than maybe todd had better go back and redoo all his engines insted of sending people a bunch of garbage . Now i am going to have to go and buy a good chinese 30 cc to replace this one and oh almost forgot that little chinese 26cc took about 15 minutes to get it tuned rite and that was three years ago and no matter how long that has been setting three flips of the prop and it's up and running perfect every time .
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RE: SYSSA 30CC GAS MADE IN USA
It truly is no wonder that T.O.M. left this forum. I have had enough myself.
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BTW. Todd Syssa has never been anything except up front and honest with me. I own two SAP 30's. Wonderful engines.
Mike OUT
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BTW. Todd Syssa has never been anything except up front and honest with me. I own two SAP 30's. Wonderful engines.
Mike OUT
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Mike Miller& JohnB, If you guys think he is so great contact him and have him contact me or dont rag on me for critising for not contacting me and acknowledging my order..Jim
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All i am saying is i have been trying to get this engine tuned so it will at least give me full power but i can't even get any more than 7100 rpm at full throttle and i have checked and rechecked every thing including all inside the carb and even went out and got new fresh gas and made sure it was mixed at 40-1 and a good quallity oil STIHL Permium 2 stroke oil 100 ml oil to 4ltr or 1000ml of gas is 40-1 the prop is an Xoar 18x8 and at least my little chinses 26cc gets 8100 rpm with the same prop . so how can a high performance 30cc get less .
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tracking said it has shipped now.my email that i got from todd on monday said it was shipped but it had not until today....may have my engine soon....keep those fingers crossed
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All i am saying is i have been trying to get this engine tuned so it will at least give me full power but i can't even get any more than 7100 rpm at full throttle and i have checked and rechecked every thing including all inside the carb and even went out and got new fresh gas and made sure it was mixed at 40-1 and a good quallity oil STIHL Permium 2 stroke oil 100 ml oil to 4ltr or 1000ml of gas is 40-1 the prop is an Xoar 18x8 and at least my little chinses 26cc gets 8100 rpm with the same prop . so how can a high performance 30cc get less .
All i am saying is i have been trying to get this engine tuned so it will at least give me full power but i can't even get any more than 7100 rpm at full throttle and i have checked and rechecked every thing including all inside the carb and even went out and got new fresh gas and made sure it was mixed at 40-1 and a good quallity oil STIHL Permium 2 stroke oil 100 ml oil to 4ltr or 1000ml of gas is 40-1 the prop is an Xoar 18x8 and at least my little chinses 26cc gets 8100 rpm with the same prop . so how can a high performance 30cc get less .
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hyflyer9, like Joystick says, it needs to unload so it can turn up some rpm. That's where it likes making it's power. I run an 18x6 on mine as well. Different engines like different props. I run an 18x8 on my DLE30, and it's on a bigger plane....
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hyflyer9, like Joystick says, it needs to unload so it can turn up some rpm. That's where it likes making it's power. I run an 18x6 on mine as well. Different engines like different props. I run an 18x8 on my DLE30, and it's on a bigger plane....
hyflyer9, like Joystick says, it needs to unload so it can turn up some rpm. That's where it likes making it's power. I run an 18x6 on mine as well. Different engines like different props. I run an 18x8 on my DLE30, and it's on a bigger plane....
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ORIGINAL: Joystick TX
Have you tried a Xoar 18x6 prop? It should give you around 8,400 rpm and about 17 lbs of thrust on the ground when the engine is tuned properly. I have not seen any RPM figures for the 18x8 props on the Syssa. I do know that it likes to run at a higher RPM than other engines in this class, which means you need to run a smaller prop to get the most efficiency out of the engine. The 18x6 prop will give you a ''baseline'' to see if your engine has any problems. If you can't get over 8,200 rpm or so with that prop, you have a problem.
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All i am saying is i have been trying to get this engine tuned so it will at least give me full power but i can't even get any more than 7100 rpm at full throttle and i have checked and rechecked every thing including all inside the carb and even went out and got new fresh gas and made sure it was mixed at 40-1 and a good quallity oil STIHL Permium 2 stroke oil 100 ml oil to 4ltr or 1000ml of gas is 40-1 the prop is an Xoar 18x8 and at least my little chinses 26cc gets 8100 rpm with the same prop . so how can a high performance 30cc get less .
All i am saying is i have been trying to get this engine tuned so it will at least give me full power but i can't even get any more than 7100 rpm at full throttle and i have checked and rechecked every thing including all inside the carb and even went out and got new fresh gas and made sure it was mixed at 40-1 and a good quallity oil STIHL Permium 2 stroke oil 100 ml oil to 4ltr or 1000ml of gas is 40-1 the prop is an Xoar 18x8 and at least my little chinses 26cc gets 8100 rpm with the same prop . so how can a high performance 30cc get less .
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this is in an ESM P39 80" all up weight is 18lbs 4oz I have been running it today and it is getting a little better now at about 7300 rpm on the 18x8 prop.
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Ordered and received a new muffler for my SAP 180 30cc. Total elapsed time was 3 weeks. What a nice looking muffler. Whole new design compared to the original. My original muffler has never come loose after many flights, however others have experienced loose mufflers. Bought this one for a "just in case" time. Todd's company does great work.
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First of all let me make one thing perfectly clear. I am an American. Born and raised right here in the USA. I am proud of my fellow countrymen ( and women ) but being in the working class of society and a Journeyman Machinist I have first hand exposure to what I am about to say.
Trying to sell an item by simply using the "Made in the USA" banner does not guarantee a superior product. It does not also guarantee superior backing by the manufacturer. However I would like to see more USA products for the modeling market.
I looked at the Syssa 30 at the Toledo show. I was not convinced by the sales rep to buy one.
I still believe the secret to having a good running engine is to know how to troubleshoot. We must admit that many come into this hobby with no mechanical aptitude, have problems they can't decipher, claim the product to be faulty, or the product is ruined due to lack of knowledge.
BTW....I have switched to AVGAS A100 and will not go back to pump gas. Stricter quality standards with controlled moisture content and no ethanol. There is a noticeable difference from my observations.
Trying to sell an item by simply using the "Made in the USA" banner does not guarantee a superior product. It does not also guarantee superior backing by the manufacturer. However I would like to see more USA products for the modeling market.
I looked at the Syssa 30 at the Toledo show. I was not convinced by the sales rep to buy one.
I still believe the secret to having a good running engine is to know how to troubleshoot. We must admit that many come into this hobby with no mechanical aptitude, have problems they can't decipher, claim the product to be faulty, or the product is ruined due to lack of knowledge.
BTW....I have switched to AVGAS A100 and will not go back to pump gas. Stricter quality standards with controlled moisture content and no ethanol. There is a noticeable difference from my observations.