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Old 05-11-2012, 06:23 AM
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Hi Doc, I hope you are right. Really want the wheels If I make it to Rhinebeck in September.
Old 05-11-2012, 10:09 AM
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Default RE: 1/3 Vickers F.B.19 MKII

I went back and re read the email and the words "very soon" were used.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:56 AM
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I have been working a some details. I made the cowl ring and reinforcing trim around the slots. As you can see no rivets or screws were used. Instead a clip arrangement on the inside of the cowl was used. I started working on the Challenger Interrupter gear. I made the tear drop cover from a block of balsa. I will add detail to it since it was hinged to open to service the gears inside. The push rod was inside a tube which eventually operates the firing pin via some mechanical stuff. I still have to make that. I have also installed all the control wires which are 175# test, 49 strand, Shark leader. Waiting on some fabric so I can start that and all the little eyelets. Stay tuned!
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:47 PM
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Default RE: 1/3 Vickers F.B.19 MKII

Other than painting it I think I can say I am finally done with the gun and Challenger Interrupter Gear. Hopefully I'll have all the eyelets I need soon so I can continue with the fabric.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:15 AM
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Default RE: 1/3 Vickers F.B.19 MKII

Done with the gun and interrupter gear.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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So, I wanted to use 3/32 eyelets but could not find them 1/16" long. Mine were 3/16 so I had to shorten them. Time consuming little project but after about an hour grinding them down on my belt sander I had the 150 I needed to start with. I punched holes along the tape edge to keep them as straight as possible and spaced right. Flipped the fabric over and used a sawed off Phillips head to "flower" the eyelet. Using the small hammer I gently hammered the eyelet "flower" flat. I think you'll get what I mean. Didn't take that long to do once I made my mind up to do it this way. I have applied the piece of fabric to the turtle deck but will not finish it until I have the side pieces on. In the mean time I can now do the cockpit combing, head rest and the trim along the bottom of the tail fin. Stay tuned.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:52 PM
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Default RE: 1/3 Vickers F.B.19 MKII

Grinding them down to 1/16"? Ow! I can feel my fingers aching in sympathy.

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Old 06-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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Default RE: 1/3 Vickers F.B.19 MKII

Having the right tools sure makes this process much easier! The flattening tool cost a couple of bucks from the same online place where I ordered the eyelets (some doll supply outlet in the US).
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:39 AM
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Hi Don, I think I did a pretty good job of searching the internet for eyelets and tools that would work. The problem is although I found another source for 3/32"x 1/16" eyelets they do not have a tool to use. Mick Reeves sells eyelets but according to Mick "one size fits all" and that doesn't work for me. I think most people use 1/16" or 1/8" and to me these are either too big or too small. I contacted GTM and Glenn had nothing to offer. His eyelets for the SE5 are "custom made". I am sure they would work for the Vickers but I guess Glenn is not ready to sell them or just doesn't have enough. I will use approx. 450 eyelets on the Vickers. Just can't bring myself to do something I am not satisfied with. The eyelets on the Vickers are a major attention point on the model and couldn't be more visible so it is just not possible to get by with something that is too big or too small to the eye in my opinion. Grinding the eyelets down is not a big deal. I stick an eyelet on the end of a Allen wrench I have which has a nice aluminum body to hold and touch the rivet to the sanding disc. It's quick and painless. Just another step in doing the job right and getting the results I want. It's not the first time or the last time I will improvise or make my own tools to get the result I want. It's just part of the hobby to me. Stay tuned!
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:35 PM
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Some more details done. Here is the cockpit combing which I used leather like vinyl for and 1/4" vinyl tubing/hose. I am using "hemp" cord for the lacing. I used 84, 3/32" eyelets also.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:36 PM
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Very nice work!
Old 06-27-2012, 05:46 PM
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Thanks Don, she is coming along. Today I picked up the wings which were started by Ron Prestin. Next week I hope to have some photo's with the wings on. Ron has given me a great start on the wings. I have to build the ailerons and upper wing center section and finish some wing tips. Stay tuned. BTW, I must have missed what happened but glad you are back on your feet and building again.
Old 07-02-2012, 06:58 AM
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Time to get the wings done. 1/2" composite spars are used. The spar goes through the fuselage and the wings plug into it. The spar was cut at the correct angle for dihedral and glued back together. Wood blocks are used on the inside of the fuselage to reinforce the spars. The wing is very rigid and light. I'll show more of the inside of the fuselage later.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:17 PM
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Getting some work done on the top wing. Just fitting parts right now. I have made hard wood blocks for the strut attachment points. I drilled a hole through them and the spar passes through. It will all be epoxied together. I'll be cutting out all the center section ribs to make the big window of course. I am using Mick Reeves stainless fittings for the struts and bracing wires that cross inside the window. The wings will plug into the center section.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:40 PM
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Almost ready to start gluing. Just need to finish sanding the ribletts to their final shape. The window frame and T/E cutout are made from 1/8" light ply. I'll use a piece of lexan plastic for the window. It will be sandwiched in between two frames. Rib caps will fall even with the frame. I had to relieve the holes in the ribs so the leading edge was straight. I have made some shims which will be glued to the ribs and the spars and fit the spars perfectly.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:14 AM
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Have to go slow with this and can't make a mistake here. I have determined the strut length's and angles and have assembled the Mick Reeves top strut fittings. I'll be using GTM J bolts to hold the struts onto the frame. I have slotted the BUSA struts to accept the MR fittings. Since the cabana struts will be painted I'll fiberglass them after they are JB Welded together. I am using a length of 7/32 music wire inside the strut. I'll be making a jig to make sure the center section will be where it should be. I have it pretty close in the photo.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:21 PM
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Some more progress. Everything is lining up well. Hope to bolt the center section in for good soon.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:46 PM
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John, it's looking really great!! Nice to see a seldom seen aircraft modeled, and modeled very nicely at that.

Will continue to watch.

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Thank you very much John. That's a great compliment coming from you.
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Looking great as usual.Will you be at Rhinebeck??
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:25 PM
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Hi Stefan, Not looking good at the moment to make Rhinebeck. I only really have 12 days that I can work on and complete the Vickers and there is just too much to get done. It would also have to be maiden-ed before Rhinebeck. I am disappointed but I don't want to risk what I have done so far by rushing it.
Old 07-31-2012, 07:58 AM
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John, I bet a lot of people would love to see it in it's unfinished state. It's a wonderfully different aircraft and a fantastic model!
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John,"TAKE YOUR TIME!!!" I don't want to see this plane end up like the Advcit monoplane.Way to much work for a silly mistake.
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Yes Stefan, the last thing I want to happen is for it to end up like the Aviatik because of a silly mistake or over-site. Don, thanks for that compliment. I would consider putting it on display but getting time off from work is also an issue and I would have to use two or three days that I really need for a vacation with the wife in October. You all know how that goes.
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Well I hated to miss Rhinebeck but I am glad I didn't burn my days off. Next year will be a different story I hope. I am working on the struts and have decided to use Dubro rod ends to attach the struts to the wings. I'll drill through the spars and hard wood blocks and screw the rod ends on. The struts will be bolted to the rod ends. Tricky part will be drilling the holes on the right angle through the spars but I think I know how to do that. I have modified the Mick Reeves stainless strut fittings and epoxied them into the BUSA struts. The flying and landing wire fittings will be bolted to the wings.
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