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CARF Ultra Flash
I have heard CARF makes quality planes. Has anyone had any problems with any delamination of skin hinging , flutter or anything of concerns?
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
Nope,Nope and Nope. this is one of the most bulletproof aircraft ever built. you can damage the flaps if you don't put the gear down but other than that it is built like a tank.
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
ORIGINAL: seflyer
Nope,Nope and Nope. this is one of the most bulletproof aircraft ever built. you can damage the flaps if you don't put the gear down but other than that it is built like a tank.
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Nope,Nope and Nope. this is one of the most bulletproof aircraft ever built. you can damage the flaps if you don't put the gear down but other than that it is built like a tank.
Kevin
+1,,,,, flys all day long as good as a bandit for half the scratch and extremely strong.... I've had both...
2 cents,,,
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
All flashes and ultras have potential for skin delamination along the hinge areas . The elevator is especially prone to this problem. Usually this will never manifest itself from flight, however transport and ground handling can attribute to this. In the case of the elevator, a bounded landing , or a nose high landing on rougher surface can cause the elevator horns to get pushed up and peel up the hinge area. Bumping the other surfaces can cause a similar problem. Very few have also claimed they have had surface separation after many flight, however there is a possibility this was also from "handling" just went unnoticed for some time. hmm, funny some who have posted here already have had this problem and and posted about it in the past .. All said, the UFlash is my favorite sport jet I have ever flown ... and yes, I have had a delamination issue after hitting a divot on a runway and having my plane bounced .. in the air, the plane will take what you can throw at it ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8VP4TjRlNI&hd=1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8VP4TjRlNI&hd=1
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+1,,,,, flys all day long as good as a bandit for half the scratch and extremely strong.... I've had both...
2 cents,,,
ORIGINAL: seflyer
Nope,Nope and Nope. this is one of the most bulletproof aircraft ever built. you can damage the flaps if you don't put the gear down but other than that it is built like a tank.
Kevin
Nope,Nope and Nope. this is one of the most bulletproof aircraft ever built. you can damage the flaps if you don't put the gear down but other than that it is built like a tank.
Kevin
+1,,,,, flys all day long as good as a bandit for half the scratch and extremely strong.... I've had both...
2 cents,,,
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
UF is my first proper full jet size other then my habu/p20 and funjet/p20
the UF is much easier to fly then above two! superb slow flying perfomance,very easy to land!
and it able took all those abuse from p180rx! thumbs up! carf price them just about rite! you will never go wrong
with ultraflash!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI7TN...e_gdata_player
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the UF is much easier to fly then above two! superb slow flying perfomance,very easy to land!
and it able took all those abuse from p180rx! thumbs up! carf price them just about rite! you will never go wrong
with ultraflash!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI7TN...e_gdata_player
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If you set the plane down on the horns on the elevator during transport, it puts pressure on the hinges, and can cause delam.. slide a pipe insulation foam piece on the rear keel for transport.. quick and easy.. keeps the horns off the table... Its a cool plane.. I converted my CF to an UF.. flew it a little, but its undergoing a redo this winter with a smaller motor and lighter.. No issues, just wanted the motor for something else..
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Great Plane. I love mine. Like Goose I am converting mine to UFlash this winter and doing an entire redo on the plane.
Great Plane. I love mine. Like Goose I am converting mine to UFlash this winter and doing an entire redo on the plane.
Make a template from the old wing..
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
ORIGINAL: gooseF22
Pins dont line up, neither do the bolt holes.. PM me if needed..
Make a template from the old wing..
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Great Plane. I love mine. Like Goose I am converting mine to UFlash this winter and doing an entire redo on the plane.
Great Plane. I love mine. Like Goose I am converting mine to UFlash this winter and doing an entire redo on the plane.
Make a template from the old wing..
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
OK, thanks for everyones replies. Great help. I know they recommend 22-26 pounds of thrust. Any recommendation from you guys who are flying them. I don't need to go ballstic but like good performance. I guess I got all the speed stuff out of my system flying Bandits for years.
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
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OK, thanks for everyones replies. Great help. I know they recommend 22-26 pounds of thrust. Any recommendation from you guys who are flying them. I don't need to go ballstic but like good performance. I guess I got all the speed stuff out of my system flying Bandits for years.
OK, thanks for everyones replies. Great help. I know they recommend 22-26 pounds of thrust. Any recommendation from you guys who are flying them. I don't need to go ballstic but like good performance. I guess I got all the speed stuff out of my system flying Bandits for years.
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
P 100 RX will push it to 215, but it takes a while to get there. Take off needs 400 ft, and the speed builds slowly. Once up to speed, it will go vertical possibly 1,000 feet before perceptably slowing. And low residual thrust is nice. The P120 SX Will be all around faster getting there, and higher top end. The 160 is frequently used, and is lively, but will not hold a vertical climb if you start slow and point vertical, and hold it. I cannot wait to see what the P180RX will dow for this plane. Will find out in a few weeks when a friend picks his up. We will probably radar him for reference.. The vertical should accelerate, and the take off should be under 200 ft. estimated. The P200SX wont fit, without a lot of work, and im not the one to do it.
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
the 180rx work just like what you said.
I can give it unlimited vertical come out from slow and low pass.
one word..awesome!
mine weight 10.5kg uat full but tanks is empty
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I can give it unlimited vertical come out from slow and low pass.
one word..awesome!
mine weight 10.5kg uat full but tanks is empty
yiming
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the 180rx work just like what you said.
I can give it unlimited vertical come out from slow and low pass.
one word..awesome!
mine weight 10.5kg uat full but tanks is empty
yiming
the 180rx work just like what you said.
I can give it unlimited vertical come out from slow and low pass.
one word..awesome!
mine weight 10.5kg uat full but tanks is empty
yiming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k357mbHFCmI
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when I had the 160 in it, we kept dialing it back...ended up around 24-26 lb thrust.. plenty to go vertical (midwest).. If you have all the speed out of your system, then build it light weight and use one of the smaller lighter engines.. thats what Im doing this winter.. I saw one fly recently with a Tam pipe, lighter servos, and less than 20lb overall weight..yes, less than 20lb.. with a P100.. it flew absolutely beautifully.. would slow to a crawl.. plenty of smash.. Im going to put a wren 100 in mine with the stock pipe, and toss the pilot/cockpit, and take out the smoke.. that should bring me in around 22lb.. FWIW
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
that said you need
more flaps...the video above is my
maiden flight. I got no problem
landing her with 180rx.
if talking light weight uf I can swap out
the 180 and put in vt80 from my velox one day to try out .
should be a fun flyer with lower wing loading!
yiming
more flaps...the video above is my
maiden flight. I got no problem
landing her with 180rx.
if talking light weight uf I can swap out
the 180 and put in vt80 from my velox one day to try out .
should be a fun flyer with lower wing loading!
yiming
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when I had the 160 in it, we kept dialing it back...ended up around 24-26 lb thrust.. plenty to go vertical (midwest).. If you have all the speed out of your system, then build it light weight and use one of the smaller lighter engines.. thats what Im doing this winter.. I saw one fly recently with a Tam pipe, lighter servos, and less than 20lb overall weight..yes, less than 20lb.. with a P100.. it flew absolutely beautifully.. would slow to a crawl.. plenty of smash.. Im going to put a wren 100 in mine with the stock pipe, and toss the pilot/cockpit, and take out the smoke.. that should bring me in around 22lb.. FWIW
when I had the 160 in it, we kept dialing it back...ended up around 24-26 lb thrust.. plenty to go vertical (midwest).. If you have all the speed out of your system, then build it light weight and use one of the smaller lighter engines.. thats what Im doing this winter.. I saw one fly recently with a Tam pipe, lighter servos, and less than 20lb overall weight..yes, less than 20lb.. with a P100.. it flew absolutely beautifully.. would slow to a crawl.. plenty of smash.. Im going to put a wren 100 in mine with the stock pipe, and toss the pilot/cockpit, and take out the smoke.. that should bring me in around 22lb.. FWIW
I fail to see why people continue to hang bigger and bigger engines in them? You get marginal speed gains and lose handling. The Flash was designed as an aerobatic sport jet, not a speed plane.
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Why did they get rid of the classic flash?? I love the look in the thunderbirds scheme with the wingtips..Just my taste, but it stinks its not available..Anyone know???
Why did they get rid of the classic flash?? I love the look in the thunderbirds scheme with the wingtips..Just my taste, but it stinks its not available..Anyone know???
Mike
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RE: CARF Ultra Flash
I'm sure there are plenty of people who would be happy to swap their standard flash wings/stab for an ultra set to save the 1k cost of an upgrade.
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