Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > RC Jets
Reload this Page >

P100 accelerating issue

Community
Search
Notices
RC Jets Discuss RC jets in this forum plus rc turbines and ducted fan power systems

P100 accelerating issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-23-2012, 05:12 PM
  #1  
Eddie Lozano
Thread Starter
 
Eddie Lozano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default P100 accelerating issue

My P100 would not accelerate. When I move the throtle stick up the engine would not spool up instead it cough then stop. Any idea whats going on.


thanks
Old 08-23-2012, 05:56 PM
  #2  
Vincent
My Feedback: (61)
 
Vincent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,017
Received 23 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

Move your idle throttle setting from normal to slow or extra slow.
Vin...
Old 08-23-2012, 06:32 PM
  #3  
Eddie Lozano
Thread Starter
 
Eddie Lozano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 423
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

Thanks Vince



Eddie L


FEJ Rep
Old 08-24-2012, 03:29 AM
  #4  
Jeffpro
My Feedback: (1)
 
Jeffpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

I had the same issue with my P100-RX. Like Vin said, go to IdleThrottleResponse in the ECU and set it to Slow or Very Slow. Most of the 100s seem to be sensitive to temperature and humidity, so when the weather cools down, you may be able to go back to Norm. I flew mine last weekend on Very Slow and the throttle response was actually quite good.
Old 08-24-2012, 05:37 AM
  #5  
Jack Diaz
My Feedback: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Caracas, VENEZUELA
Posts: 551
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

The misleading issue are the names "Fast", "Normal", "Slow" and "Very Slow".

In my opinion, the ECU idle settings should be thought of as an "Idle Needle Valve adjustment"; which should be adjusted to produce the fastest and more reliable idle response at a particular filed condition, regardless of the position of the needle.

At the field where I fly, the fastest response is almost always obtained with less fuel (Slow or Very Slow).

The number of Oxygen molecules per volume of air, reduces with higher temperature, humidity and altitude. Therefore, fuel flow should be adjusted to maintain the correct fuel to air mixture.

In other words, the fastest you are going to get, is when the mixture is correct. Faster than that is thermodynamically impossible, no matter what the ECU says.


Eddie, are you going to Best in the West?

Jack



Old 08-24-2012, 10:45 AM
  #6  
Chris Smith
My Feedback: (2)
 
Chris Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Adams TN
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

On a positive note it is amazing the power smaller packages are putting out.

But it seems at this point in model turbine development the ECU should know the temp, humidity, and altitude, even if they are user inputs. Then the ECU should utilize a look-up table and make the appropriate settings. I realize we still don't have true FADEC capability but it shouldn't be that hard. More user fiddling on new engines doesn't seem like a step forward.



Old 08-24-2012, 11:02 AM
  #7  
bluescoobydoo
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: harwich, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 709
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

thats what i was just thinking when i was reading your post, i have never had to adjust any of my wrens from when i fly in the winter to summer so why can't the jet cats decide there own settings, what would happen if the jetcat decided it needed adjustment while you were flying?
Old 08-24-2012, 11:32 AM
  #8  
3d flip
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: felixstowe, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

The V10 ECU has a barometric pressure sensor

Barom.Auto Tune Enables the ECU to align the control system according the barometric pressure.

The possible settings are:

Disabled: No auto tuning by ECU
IdleRPM-Set: Optimize of idle RPM only
Ramp-Set: Optimize of acceleration only
Idle&Ramp-Set: IdleRPM and acceleration are optimized
Old 08-24-2012, 01:42 PM
  #9  
Jeffpro
My Feedback: (1)
 
Jeffpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: P100 accelerating issue

Correct about the V10 ECU. However, I tried it and it didn't work. (The turbine would cough, belch flames, and quit when I gave it fuel.) I spoke to Bob Wilcox about it and he said the auto feature hasn't proven to be very reliable. I'm guessing that's because barometric pressure is only one of the variables (humidity being another).

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.