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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Good, Bad, Don't care? In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:
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Good, Bad, Don't care? In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:
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The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track. HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line.
The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track. HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line.
Something has been bothering me about the numbers posted. The forum lists 2628 members and that is close enough to the almost 2700 number presented to the EC however that does not represent forum users. If I’m not mistaken that number represents the number of people that have a log-in to the official AMA Website. They do not all necessarily know that the AMA forum even exists. The link to it is not exactly a stand out feature of the main AMA Web page.
“2350 have made one post or less†At first I thought this was a typo but if not it is a gross misrepresentation of the numbers. The member list shows 427 members with one post or more which leaves 2201 members that either did not post or was not aware of the forum.
“90% of those posts come from 10 members.†Not sure where we should set the bar here so let me just throw out some numbers;
> 10 posts = 85
> 30 posts = 44
> 50 posts = 38
> 100 posts = 25
> 500 posts = 11
> 1000 posts = 2
> 2000 posts = 1
If we average the number of post with the number of actual posters we get an average about 30 posts. Look at the numbers and we have 44 that hit the average but even that number is skewed because many of those are administrators or moderators of the forum and should we even count them as users.
What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.
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08-29-2012, 02:39 PM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: phlpsfrnk
Brad,
Something has been bothering me about the numbers posted. The forum lists 2628 members and that is close enough to the almost 2700 number presented to the EC however that does not represent forum users. If I’m not mistaken that number represents the number of people that have a log-in to the official AMA Website. They do not all necessarily know that the AMA forum even exists. The link to it is not exactly a stand out feature of the main AMA Web page.
“2350 have made one post or less” At first I thought this was a typo but if not it is a gross misrepresentation of the numbers. The member list shows 427 members with one post or more which leaves 2201 members that either did not post or was not aware of the forum.
“90% of those posts come from 10 members.” Not sure where we should set the bar here so let me just throw out some numbers;
> 10 posts = 85
> 30 posts = 44
> 50 posts = 38
> 100 posts = 25
> 500 posts = 11
> 1000 posts = 2
> 2000 posts = 1
If we average the number of post with the number of actual posters we get an average about 30 posts. Look at the numbers and we have 44 that hit the average but even that number is skewed because many of those are administrators or moderators of the forum and should we even count them as users.
What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.
Regards
Frank
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Good, Bad, Don't care? In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:
Brad
Good, Bad, Don't care? In any case this is from the minutes of the AMA July EC meeting:
AMA On-line Forum
The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track. HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line.
The ED reported the forum was created some time in 2009. It has almost 2700 members and out of that, 2350 have made one post or less; and 90% of those posts come from 10 members. The proposal is to close the AMA forum; it is believed this can be done now because the blog system is now up and running. The blog system is a quicker way to get better information to our members; and eliminates the potential for conversations to get dragged off track. HQ continues to refine the ticket system (Ask AMA) where someone can ask a question and get an answer within 48 hours by a staff person; and creating the knowledge base mentioned earlier that will supplement the Ask AMA system on-line.
Something has been bothering me about the numbers posted. The forum lists 2628 members and that is close enough to the almost 2700 number presented to the EC however that does not represent forum users. If I’m not mistaken that number represents the number of people that have a log-in to the official AMA Website. They do not all necessarily know that the AMA forum even exists. The link to it is not exactly a stand out feature of the main AMA Web page.
“2350 have made one post or less” At first I thought this was a typo but if not it is a gross misrepresentation of the numbers. The member list shows 427 members with one post or more which leaves 2201 members that either did not post or was not aware of the forum.
“90% of those posts come from 10 members.” Not sure where we should set the bar here so let me just throw out some numbers;
> 10 posts = 85
> 30 posts = 44
> 50 posts = 38
> 100 posts = 25
> 500 posts = 11
> 1000 posts = 2
> 2000 posts = 1
If we average the number of post with the number of actual posters we get an average about 30 posts. Look at the numbers and we have 44 that hit the average but even that number is skewed because many of those are administrators or moderators of the forum and should we even count them as users.
What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.
Regards
Frank
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
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08-29-2012, 02:44 PM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
08-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: Arbo
Just because it's not where you can see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Though I wonder how much time you spent looking for something like that to try and make a mountain out of.
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
08-29-2012, 09:14 PM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
About 10 seconds...... I was looking up the Dave M post on ''New Forum Guidelines'' and saw two other threads in the section welcoming ''New Moderators''.
ORIGINAL: Arbo
Just because it's not where you can see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Though I wonder how much time you spent looking for something like that to try and make a mountain out of.
ORIGINAL: bradpaul
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
Hey Arbo I just noticed that every new moderator but you had a nice welcome post from Dave on the forum?
08-29-2012, 09:17 PM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: Arbo
It appears that you still do not see the big picture.
ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Ok Arbo,
What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say ''conflict of interest''???
You were just a pawn in the endeavor.
Ok Arbo,
What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say ''conflict of interest''???
You were just a pawn in the endeavor.
08-30-2012, 02:53 AM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
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And that suprises you?
What was presented to the EC just doesn’t add up.
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Frank
Regards
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And that suprises you?
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08-30-2012, 08:44 AM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: phlpsfrnk
Who are ''they''?
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ORIGINAL: ctrout
Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.
Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Maybe he means ''his gang''...
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Who are ''they''?
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ORIGINAL: ctrout
Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.
Guys, they are calling it a day, might as well do the same.
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ORIGINAL: phlpsfrnk
Of course, what was I thinking; I should have recognized the conspiracy code speak.
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Of course, what was I thinking; I should have recognized the conspiracy code speak.
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I have got to say.....
I really Feel for the moderator.....
In all this nonsense.... I can take this from this posts "There are some REAL Cookies..... on this one"
I think the conspiracy is that the mentals, are out walking around in the public, and they are able to put on a face of normality, and they have everyone
to believe they are SANE persons!..... But when they are able to hide from public eye, and post what they are REALLY thinking …..
The conspiracy shocker is, that I thought this was ONLY with FEMALES
This completely throws me for a loop!..
I really Feel for the moderator.....
In all this nonsense.... I can take this from this posts "There are some REAL Cookies..... on this one"
I think the conspiracy is that the mentals, are out walking around in the public, and they are able to put on a face of normality, and they have everyone
to believe they are SANE persons!..... But when they are able to hide from public eye, and post what they are REALLY thinking …..
The conspiracy shocker is, that I thought this was ONLY with FEMALES
This completely throws me for a loop!..
09-05-2012, 05:53 AM
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ORIGINAL: Arbo
Yeah, that's what has been repeated. Doesn't matter that it isn't true.
ORIGINAL: Ladyflyer
Looks like the moderating standards were ARBO-trary .
Looks like the moderating standards were ARBO-trary .
Yeah, that's what has been repeated. Doesn't matter that it isn't true.
Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The" arbotrary" part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .
09-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
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Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The" arbotrary" part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .
Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The" arbotrary" part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .
09-05-2012, 10:02 AM
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The haters are going to hate, no matter the reality of the situation.
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Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The'' arbotrary'' part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .
Isn't true ? What isn't true ? The'' arbotrary'' part ? The fact is , it certainly appears arbitray to many of us . That part is in fact TRUE .
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of "haters" again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
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ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of "haters" again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of "haters" again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
They can not hide the history of their behavior.
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ORIGINAL: Arbo
I understand your see a problem that does not exist. But stating the truth of the situtation about haters is nothing more than stating the truth. The history of the same people putting forth the same slander is all over the net for people to see.
They can not hide the history of their behavior.
ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of ''haters'' again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of ''haters'' again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
They can not hide the history of their behavior.
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Well since you have it all figured out...who's the haters and what is it they hate???
Well since you have it all figured out...who's the haters and what is it they hate???
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ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Well since you have it all figured out...who's the haters and what is it they hate???
ORIGINAL: Arbo
I understand your see a problem that does not exist. But stating the truth of the situtation about haters is nothing more than stating the truth. The history of the same people putting forth the same slander is all over the net for people to see.
They can not hide the history of their behavior.
ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of ''haters'' again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
Dang Arbo,
I thought you may have heeded the advice of one of your good friends and decided to let this thread go... I am very disappointed to see you come back in here and cast aspersions of ''haters'' again... Same song...different day!
Can't you see that is the actual problem???
They can not hide the history of their behavior.
[:@]He and his ilk that hate anyone that disagrees or calls them out on their actions.
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
ORIGINAL: phlpsfrnk
crank,
[:@]He and his ilk that hate anyone that disagrees or calls them out on their actions.
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crank,
[:@]He and his ilk that hate anyone that disagrees or calls them out on their actions.
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RE: AMA to close the AMA Discussions Forum
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I irony of this statement, from this person, makes for a great morning belly laugh. I hope others read and see it as well, as a great big belly laugh is a great way to start the morning.
ORIGINAL: phlpsfrnk
crank,
[:@]He and his ilk that hate anyone that disagrees or calls them out on their actions.
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crank,
[:@]He and his ilk that hate anyone that disagrees or calls them out on their actions.
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