opjose

Ibid....

Here's another.... pffft!


Has anything changed for you?

Have you actually accomplished anything?

I sympathize with your plight, but this is not going to do a thing.... you are barking up the wrong proverbial tree.

Azzir325

Troll. Thank you.

Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

opjose

Let's ALL thank the Troll!!!

THANK YOU TROLL!

It still will not change a thing.

Look I can do it too!!! "Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers."

Nothing's changed though, and nothing will.... good luck with your campaign.


Albert Einstein Quotes.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

RCVFR

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RCVFR

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That's funny, but I think Azzir is getting exactly the result he wants: lots of attention.

acdii

I farted again, and dangit , it still stinks. I guess your right, you can do the same thing over and over again and get the same results.

Jacobs Jasta 7

Let me thank opjose for you Rick.

Hey Rick? Would I have the results like this if I didn't push and demand Customer Support? Nothing gets done eh? Only if I sit on my hands and do nothing. If money means anything to them then they will listen.


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Pete

Luchnia

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Not bad. At least there is communication and effort and for that I think is a big A+.

Azzir325

Got to love these dummies trying to portray me as the insane one. Their definition, same thing over and over, same result, is the very definition of themselves and what they are doing. This thread started with the message that

Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

THAT'S what this thread is about. If you have something to post along that theme, please add it in. If you are all about drivel (trolls, I'm talking to you), well, I can't stop you from posting, but be assured, I will use your post as a springboard to say

'Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

Jasta, big WTG to you.

opjose

It's Einstein's definition not mine... It seems like the shoe fits quite comfortably.

Should, could and would, the question is "so what"? Something it seems you keep missing...


Are YOU doing anything about it other than posting the same thing over and over again?

Why didn't you ask for people to help you with a letter writing campaign or something that is ACTUALLY constructive?

Your rant does nothing... if it had any chance of making a change I'd be joining you in posting my own along the same lines.

Seems like you like to call anyone who points any of this obvious stuff out to you a "troll". How effective is that for you?


Which merits another

SO?

What are you ACTUALLY going to do that has a chance of making a change?

Or are you just nothing more than hot air?



WAIT FOR IT......

Azzir325

Well, at least I am NOT going around being negative and stupid. BTW


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

Voicing my feelings IS doing something about it.

opjose

That's exactly what you are doing, I guess you just don't get it.

No you are not doing anything. You are merely whining to people who already know this.

I can give you a much longer laundry list of things that SHOULD be changed...

e.g.

Connectors should be standardized.
Manufacturers should NOT use proprietary communication protocols.
Epoxies or high strength glues should always be used on planes.
Factories should ALWAYS provide parts for Vendors - ( sound familiar? )
etc.
etc.
etc.

The list is quite long and well known by anyone who is involved in RC.

Posting a RANT here is useless.

What do you suppose will change by doing so? Not the tiniest thing will change!


If you wanted this not to be a "useless thread" ( which it currently is ) DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE to further your desire that things be changed.

Azzir325

Thank you for your support.


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

Writing a long post about what I'm doing being useless and stupid and whining doesn't help. It does make you sound like my new pet troll. Like I said, and will remind you since you don't seem to understand,


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

joebahl

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I go away for a couple days and look at all the new friends you are making here Azzir, lmao

Azzir325

My 1st pet troll come back to say hello! Thanks! And


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

Charlie P.

No need to . We hold these truths to be self evident.


Disgruntled pilots CANand SHOULD contact the distributors directly with complaints. They said "no", so no it is. Take your business elsewhere . . . and expect identical results. If you accept an ARFthen you are at their mercy.

But Iwaste my time and typing. Spent a couple years as a college instructor and Iguess it's just habit.

Azzir325

Agreed. And start a thread complaining to the world so distributors hear us.


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

Jetdesign

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Should have read this thread before posting... [:@]

Charlie P.

Excellent! Then we can sit back and clear the channel so the very next distriutor or manufacturer who arrives here can respond immediatelyto you.






And the crickets say "chirp, chirp, chirp."

Azzir325

Ho hum... You trolls are so boring. And


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.

opjose

ROTFL

Well Charlie you and many other people have tried to bring him up to speed.

Sadly he needs something more than reason and common sense.

This is sort of like trying to explain to a Lemming that it is heading in the wrong direction with identical results.

At least the Lemming doesn't make much noise.

captinjohn

OPJOSE>>> If Bull S-IT was Music>>>you would have a Brass Band. More than one business went out because they would not change !

Stickbuilder

A little off the topic, but when we needed a correct cowl for our Waco YMF birds, we built a plug, sent it to Fibertech and they now offer it for sale. Y'all could do the same with needed glass parts. As for the rest? I guess you could do the same thing. It is obvious that the manufacturers have moved on to bigger and better things.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

Luchnia

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Stickbuilder, good input. To me the "Can and SHOULD" thing can get old after a while and I tend to agree somewhat with both sides of this thread. I do realize that making parts for the planes would probably not be feasible overall.

I do think that support is lacking for parts and so forth and maybe a standard should be in place. Realistically I don't think it will happen in this ever changing world we live in. Businesses like HK do make other businesses change their model to, "If that is what we have to do to stay in business then so beit."

One thing I have learned in life is that money speaks loudly to many businesses and sometimes (not often enough) you can get movement without money just by working hard to make change occur. I am a small player trying to give some decent input and not enough to effect much change.

Azzir325

Not expecting much change, but if no one makes noise, there definitely will not be change. So I started this thread to make some noise. I thank all of those who offer support and lend their voices to the call for change. To all those who are just trolls, or to those who tried to make this thread "ARFers VS builders," thanks for the noise and helping get to 13 pages.


Manufacturers CAN and SHOULD do a better job of supporting their products and customers.