Weatronic Transmitter
10-09-2011, 12:36 AM
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Has anyone heard what the development status is with the Weatronic transmitter? A year or so ago I understood Weatronic where asking customers what features they would like included in a dedicated transmitter.
Its not that I'm in the market for one just yet (I hope not anyway) but with the almost universal switch by manufacturers to 2.4, finding a replacement transmitter that will accept an RF module is likely to become increasingly difficult. Those of us who have replaced all their receivers with Weatronic are effectively tied now to whatever transmitter they come up with. Lets hope its feature rich and available before my current transmitter fails!
Its not that I'm in the market for one just yet (I hope not anyway) but with the almost universal switch by manufacturers to 2.4, finding a replacement transmitter that will accept an RF module is likely to become increasingly difficult. Those of us who have replaced all their receivers with Weatronic are effectively tied now to whatever transmitter they come up with. Lets hope its feature rich and available before my current transmitter fails!
10-09-2011, 12:55 AM
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I talked with one from Weatronic at JetPower, and asked the same question
His answer was that a prototype should show up sometime during march next year, and hopefully production end of 2012. The first one to be available should be the "mid range" of their transmitters.
Only problem I see with this, is their total lack of support to their customers, dare to think how that will be when they launch something as complex as a new transmitter....
His answer was that a prototype should show up sometime during march next year, and hopefully production end of 2012. The first one to be available should be the "mid range" of their transmitters.
Only problem I see with this, is their total lack of support to their customers, dare to think how that will be when they launch something as complex as a new transmitter....
10-09-2011, 10:34 PM
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Well that sounds like they are still going ahead with a transmitter.
On one of the few occasions when I've managed to get a telephone call answered (but never e-mail) Konrad stated that they are aware of their need to improve their customer support service. He said they were taking on staff specifically to allow queries to be answered, but I don't know if that has transpired yet, I've had no need to call since my last purchase in July.
My wish would be that they keep the website updated, in English as well as German, and post developments in the 'news' section. That way customers could understand that the company is alive and well and staying ahead of the competion. They have such fantastic products, sales of which must be held back by their unwillingness to communicate.
To give them some marketing credit though, I had a new 12-22R receiver showing intermittent faults, I managed to contact Weatronic and they dispatched a replacement the same day. Of course they asked for the original unit to be returned, but they didn't hesitate - trust like that I found refreshing.
On one of the few occasions when I've managed to get a telephone call answered (but never e-mail) Konrad stated that they are aware of their need to improve their customer support service. He said they were taking on staff specifically to allow queries to be answered, but I don't know if that has transpired yet, I've had no need to call since my last purchase in July.
My wish would be that they keep the website updated, in English as well as German, and post developments in the 'news' section. That way customers could understand that the company is alive and well and staying ahead of the competion. They have such fantastic products, sales of which must be held back by their unwillingness to communicate.
To give them some marketing credit though, I had a new 12-22R receiver showing intermittent faults, I managed to contact Weatronic and they dispatched a replacement the same day. Of course they asked for the original unit to be returned, but they didn't hesitate - trust like that I found refreshing.
10-09-2011, 10:48 PM
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Yes, lets hope so, but they have promised that for quite some time now, and I have a bunch of emails with them, still unanswered. I even reported a problem here with Graupner MP80T servos (brushless), Konrad reported here that they would look at it and that Alwin was aware of the problem, and when I confronted Alwin at JetPower with the problem, he had never heard of it, and they were not working on anything like that. That was when I turned around, and left their booth at JP 
Funny about the 12-22, I have had two defect units now, both showed approx 30 db lower signal on RX1, no problems on the antennas etc, looked like at bad RF frontend, on both occasions they swapped the receivers (one of them I brought to JP this year, I asked Alwin if they had seen this error before, he answered "only maybe 1 or 2 times", so I guess I had all the defect units)
So, I'm still kinda hoping, but I find it more and more diffcult to keep my hopes up [&o]
Funny about the 12-22, I have had two defect units now, both showed approx 30 db lower signal on RX1, no problems on the antennas etc, looked like at bad RF frontend, on both occasions they swapped the receivers (one of them I brought to JP this year, I asked Alwin if they had seen this error before, he answered "only maybe 1 or 2 times", so I guess I had all the defect units
)So, I'm still kinda hoping, but I find it more and more diffcult to keep my hopes up [&o]
10-10-2011, 06:21 AM
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Carsten,
Your problem with the receivers is interesting. When I experienced a problem I was asked to send the logfile and was subsequently told that there was a fault 'with one channel'. I didn't query the reply as my knowledge of radio is not great, however the replacement receiver seems to be working fine so I suppose as with all equipment no matter how exhaustive the testing is, something may fail shortly after manufacture - isn't it called infant mortality - if it gets through the first few hours then the chances are it will keep working into old age!
I've got 1 transmitter module, 3 micro receivers, 1 20-22, and 2 gps modules and this is the first failure I've experienced, so am not disapponted given the level of complexity that must exist in such small packages.
All in all I'm well satisfied with Weatronic products - just wish they would improve their availablity to talk to customers.
Your problem with the receivers is interesting. When I experienced a problem I was asked to send the logfile and was subsequently told that there was a fault 'with one channel'. I didn't query the reply as my knowledge of radio is not great, however the replacement receiver seems to be working fine so I suppose as with all equipment no matter how exhaustive the testing is, something may fail shortly after manufacture - isn't it called infant mortality - if it gets through the first few hours then the chances are it will keep working into old age!
I've got 1 transmitter module, 3 micro receivers, 1 20-22, and 2 gps modules and this is the first failure I've experienced, so am not disapponted given the level of complexity that must exist in such small packages.
All in all I'm well satisfied with Weatronic products - just wish they would improve their availablity to talk to customers.
10-10-2011, 06:29 AM
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Yep,
I don't see it as too serious with the errors on the receivers, although I have a feeling that there is no complete test of the receivers after production, as errors as the two I have seen aren't likely to surface "just before" I get the receivers in my hands (been doing embedded hw&sw development for 29 years until now). Anyway, I can live with that
But I can't live with the lack of customer support, and the promises they make about making it better, we have heard the same story for more than a year now!
I currently have 6 jets flying with weatronic equipment and a couple of propplanes, so it is quite a good amount of money I have tied up in this [&o]
A funny thing, one of my friends here have had very bad results with Weatronic equipment (crashed a turbine heli), he was told that the TX adapter for the 14MZ is not sold anymore because of problems, and we have to wait for the new "digital" adapter for the 14MZ, I wonder what thats suppose to mean ? (I use a 14MZ myself)
I don't see it as too serious with the errors on the receivers, although I have a feeling that there is no complete test of the receivers after production, as errors as the two I have seen aren't likely to surface "just before" I get the receivers in my hands (been doing embedded hw&sw development for 29 years until now). Anyway, I can live with that
But I can't live with the lack of customer support, and the promises they make about making it better, we have heard the same story for more than a year now!
I currently have 6 jets flying with weatronic equipment and a couple of propplanes, so it is quite a good amount of money I have tied up in this [&o]
A funny thing, one of my friends here have had very bad results with Weatronic equipment (crashed a turbine heli), he was told that the TX adapter for the 14MZ is not sold anymore because of problems, and we have to wait for the new "digital" adapter for the 14MZ, I wonder what thats suppose to mean ? (I use a 14MZ myself)
10-10-2011, 07:25 AM
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According to the website, the new DV4 and DV4 Bluetooth transmitter modules are named as suitable for the 14MZ. I don't know what that infers about the earlier generation modules.
08-07-2012, 12:34 AM
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Tinus, Weatronic announced it about a year ago. It was the front page of their website back then, which translated by Google said -
The merger is perfect!
weatronic fineworx and will go from now on common routes.
Both companies are working on now under the umbrella of the ASC group together.
The firm fineworx deals mainly with the development of RC models in the model airplane can, and especially in the sports field to a wide
Wealth of experience to fall back.
With this cooperation, new structures and opportunities arise in our Companies. We are proud to offer our customers now, with the technical safety Advantage of ensuring Weatronic products and developing new products can guarantee. The passion for innovation and the desire for perfection obtained in this cooperation a stable support.
Weatronic and fineworx - together into a new era of remote control technology.
Alwin became CEO of Weatronic on 15 Aug 2011, on 15 September he sold it to KOC which has something to do with fineworx. Fineworx is a Turkish company that makes model gliders.
Weatronic has been promising its own tx for a few years. In 2010 they said they would have 3 Tx in 2011. The latest promise from them made on a German model forum is that they will show their one new Tx at the jet power show in a couple of months.
Harry
The merger is perfect!
weatronic fineworx and will go from now on common routes.
Both companies are working on now under the umbrella of the ASC group together.
The firm fineworx deals mainly with the development of RC models in the model airplane can, and especially in the sports field to a wide
Wealth of experience to fall back.
With this cooperation, new structures and opportunities arise in our Companies. We are proud to offer our customers now, with the technical safety Advantage of ensuring Weatronic products and developing new products can guarantee. The passion for innovation and the desire for perfection obtained in this cooperation a stable support.
Weatronic and fineworx - together into a new era of remote control technology.
Alwin became CEO of Weatronic on 15 Aug 2011, on 15 September he sold it to KOC which has something to do with fineworx. Fineworx is a Turkish company that makes model gliders.
Weatronic has been promising its own tx for a few years. In 2010 they said they would have 3 Tx in 2011. The latest promise from them made on a German model forum is that they will show their one new Tx at the jet power show in a couple of months.
Harry
08-07-2012, 07:22 AM
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Harry.
I had seen the announcement a long time ago, but I was not able to find any info on the Fineworx company. Thanks for clarifying this.
I have also heard that Wea plans on presenting their TX at this years Jet Power, but IΒ΄m not holding my breath. I have learned that the deadlines are never to be trusted...:-)
But I have been very satisfied with my Wea gear, and everytime I have bought some products the response has been prompt, and in the few instances where I have had a question, the responce has been quick too. I know that others have had major difficulties in this regard, but for some reason I seem to have been lucky.
I had seen the announcement a long time ago, but I was not able to find any info on the Fineworx company. Thanks for clarifying this.
I have also heard that Wea plans on presenting their TX at this years Jet Power, but IΒ΄m not holding my breath. I have learned that the deadlines are never to be trusted...:-)
But I have been very satisfied with my Wea gear, and everytime I have bought some products the response has been prompt, and in the few instances where I have had a question, the responce has been quick too. I know that others have had major difficulties in this regard, but for some reason I seem to have been lucky.
08-29-2012, 06:16 AM
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For those of us who have not completely given up hope with Weatronic, I've just spoken to them regarding another query (and the phone was answered straight away!) however the interesting thing from the conversation is that the new Weatronic transmitter will be presented at the Jetpower Exhibition in Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler, Germany 14-16 September. The first transmitter will be a handheld type (not tray mounted) and is scheduled to be for sale early 2013.
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Hi
i have just received my 14mz module back from Jens at Wea, the story so far..:
i brought a 14mz module when they just reappeared back on the site after they reissued them to work with the 14 Mz 2.4 update.
the one i got did not work, after trying to get something done after months i gave up, Then some one posted Jens email on the forum, so i thought
i would give it a go, the next thing i know i have a email asking me to send the module back. so i did ,, i just
received a new one this week. fitted back in all seems to work.. the 14mz now runs in the 2.4gig mode . in giga it shows up as connected
in the weatronic modulation not futaba.
i find i have to crank all the end points up to get any thing like the movement i had before. but all seems to work.
The first 14Mz module i had used to run in PPM 1.5 BTW..
i am using the original DV3 TX from 2009
any one find it hard to bind receivers with the latest firmware if not make a post telling me what im doing to make it so difficult.. has anyone had any come
unbound for no apparent reason
steve spalding btw
i have just received my 14mz module back from Jens at Wea, the story so far..:
i brought a 14mz module when they just reappeared back on the site after they reissued them to work with the 14 Mz 2.4 update.
the one i got did not work, after trying to get something done after months i gave up, Then some one posted Jens email on the forum, so i thought
i would give it a go, the next thing i know i have a email asking me to send the module back. so i did ,, i just
received a new one this week. fitted back in all seems to work.. the 14mz now runs in the 2.4gig mode . in giga it shows up as connected
in the weatronic modulation not futaba.
i find i have to crank all the end points up to get any thing like the movement i had before. but all seems to work.
The first 14Mz module i had used to run in PPM 1.5 BTW..
i am using the original DV3 TX from 2009
any one find it hard to bind receivers with the latest firmware if not make a post telling me what im doing to make it so difficult.. has anyone had any come
unbound for no apparent reason
steve spalding btw
09-09-2012, 01:59 PM
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more info at jetpower.....
found these on FB ( http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.4152670708884.158556.1647417033&type=1 )
(sorry about the size...)
found these on FB ( http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.4152670708884.158556.1647417033&type=1 )
(sorry about the size...)
09-09-2012, 02:16 PM
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it's a bit like the iphone 5, will it come, is it like we have seen on the pictures from "reliable" sources.
a friend of mine will be at jetpower, he will look around for the real deal.....
a friend of mine will be at jetpower, he will look around for the real deal.....
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The only picture, as far as I know, of "The real deal"...
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...atronic-Sender
Personally I find it extremely ugly, but as the functionality and reliablity is the importent thing - so who cares about the look. :-)
But still, after looking at the pictures for a day or two, it looks better and better, and IΒ΄m looking forward to the tray type TX that should be out next. Could be my next TX...
P.S. Added the latest "specs" as I read them on the above link.
Hallsensors - In the gimbals I guess?
WLAN
UMTS - Some sort of phone network? 3G or similer?
Bluetooth
Color touchscreen by Samsung
22 "Functions" - As apparently the operating system does not use channels in the normal sense?
Ready for 5,8GHz for FPV use.
And there is a rumour that it will use dual batteries, which could boost duration, and also provide some redundancy in case a pack fails. Not that I have ever heard of any that did...:-)
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...atronic-Sender
Personally I find it extremely ugly, but as the functionality and reliablity is the importent thing - so who cares about the look. :-)
But still, after looking at the pictures for a day or two, it looks better and better, and IΒ΄m looking forward to the tray type TX that should be out next. Could be my next TX...
P.S. Added the latest "specs" as I read them on the above link.
Hallsensors - In the gimbals I guess?
WLAN
UMTS - Some sort of phone network? 3G or similer?
Bluetooth
Color touchscreen by Samsung
22 "Functions" - As apparently the operating system does not use channels in the normal sense?
Ready for 5,8GHz for FPV use.
And there is a rumour that it will use dual batteries, which could boost duration, and also provide some redundancy in case a pack fails. Not that I have ever heard of any that did...:-)
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Those pics seems the Tx of Philip Kolb who is the coach of sailplane team Soarist group,Turkey.The new boss of Weatronic is also one of the member of that team.
Maybe you may have communication via http://soarist.com/
Maybe you may have communication via http://soarist.com/
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Hi
i have just received my 14mz module back from Jens at Wea, the story so far..:
i brought a 14mz module when they just reappeared back on the site after they reissued them to work with the 14 Mz 2.4 update.
the one i got did not work, after trying to get something done after months i gave up, Then some one posted Jens email on the forum, so i thought
i would give it a go, the next thing i know i have a email asking me to send the module back. so i did ,, i just
received a new one this week. fitted back in all seems to work.. the 14mz now runs in the 2.4gig mode . in giga it shows up as connected
in the weatronic modulation not futaba.
i find i have to crank all the end points up to get any thing like the movement i had before. but all seems to work.
The first 14Mz module i had used to run in PPM 1.5 BTW..
i am using the original DV3 TX from 2009
any one find it hard to bind receivers with the latest firmware if not make a post telling me what im doing to make it so difficult.. has anyone had any come
unbound for no apparent reason
steve spalding btw
Hi
i have just received my 14mz module back from Jens at Wea, the story so far..:
i brought a 14mz module when they just reappeared back on the site after they reissued them to work with the 14 Mz 2.4 update.
the one i got did not work, after trying to get something done after months i gave up, Then some one posted Jens email on the forum, so i thought
i would give it a go, the next thing i know i have a email asking me to send the module back. so i did ,, i just
received a new one this week. fitted back in all seems to work.. the 14mz now runs in the 2.4gig mode . in giga it shows up as connected
in the weatronic modulation not futaba.
i find i have to crank all the end points up to get any thing like the movement i had before. but all seems to work.
The first 14Mz module i had used to run in PPM 1.5 BTW..
i am using the original DV3 TX from 2009
any one find it hard to bind receivers with the latest firmware if not make a post telling me what im doing to make it so difficult.. has anyone had any come
unbound for no apparent reason
steve spalding btw
Thx,
Gerhard
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weatronic ® transmitter tray
Standard High Tech made ββin Germany from the Center for Aerospace:
9-point ball bearing sticks
No wear and tear thanks to Hall sensors
Innovative Gas / Brake Concept
28 freely programmable controls
5 capacitive touchscreen 800 x 480 color LCD
Look and Find function due to the internal GPS
Web interface for remote access and programming
own charge controller for each cell) Li-Ion
A cell is always reserved as a 25% reserve for a safe landing
Micro-SD card for data logging
USB-A and USB-B (master and slave)
3.5mm Headphone output
Two parallel transmission and reception systems
Optional 3-Axis Gyro
Optional 3-axis orientation by acceleration sensors
Optional Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, UMTS via USB
Optional control functions in the stick and stick lengths selectable
Developed for the new ETSI standard EN 300 328 V1.8.1
Specifications:
Transmission: Adaptive Frequency Hopping with listenbeforeTalk function
Hopping frequencies: 81, France: 52
Hopping rate: 100 Hz
Antenna: 2 x patch antenna (angle> 180 °)
4 Li-Ion cells à 3000 mAh
GPS module built-in
Operating and charging voltage: 10.0 - 20.0 Volt
Temperature range: -10 ° C to +60 ° C, noncondensing
Available for the 2013th
Standard High Tech made ββin Germany from the Center for Aerospace:
9-point ball bearing sticks
No wear and tear thanks to Hall sensors
Innovative Gas / Brake Concept
28 freely programmable controls
5 capacitive touchscreen 800 x 480 color LCD
Look and Find function due to the internal GPS
Web interface for remote access and programming
own charge controller for each cell) Li-Ion
A cell is always reserved as a 25% reserve for a safe landing
Micro-SD card for data logging
USB-A and USB-B (master and slave)
3.5mm Headphone output
Two parallel transmission and reception systems
Optional 3-Axis Gyro
Optional 3-axis orientation by acceleration sensors
Optional Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, UMTS via USB
Optional control functions in the stick and stick lengths selectable
Developed for the new ETSI standard EN 300 328 V1.8.1
Specifications:
Transmission: Adaptive Frequency Hopping with listenbeforeTalk function
Hopping frequencies: 81, France: 52
Hopping rate: 100 Hz
Antenna: 2 x patch antenna (angle> 180 °)
4 Li-Ion cells à 3000 mAh
GPS module built-in
Operating and charging voltage: 10.0 - 20.0 Volt
Temperature range: -10 ° C to +60 ° C, noncondensing
Available for the 2013th
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Thanks for posting the pictures. Hopefully with the Jetpower show now over and the transmitters unveiled, there will be more information flowing soon; they certainly look attractive sets. My interest would be the hand held types - what is the purpose of what appear to be trim wheels at 45 degrees to the sticks?
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Thanks for posting the pictures. Hopefully with the Jetpower show now over and the transmitters unveiled, there will be more information flowing soon; they certainly look attractive sets. My interest would be the hand held types - what is the purpose of what appear to be trim wheels at 45 degrees to the sticks?
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what is the purpose of what appear to be trim wheels at 45 degrees to the sticks?
what is the purpose of what appear to be trim wheels at 45 degrees to the sticks?
on the siderudder u see 2 trimweels (up and downside) u can ajust siderudder and steeringweel seperately...