HV Servos or not?
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HV Servos or not?
I am about to purchase some servos for a new project - SM Large Hawk.
I am wondering from those who have used them - if HV servos ( I happen to be a JR user) have been perfect or if there is any issue with them?
I will be running 2S lipo and would use a 1222 receiver.
Plan B is what I usually use - Weatronic receiver, same batteries and standard voltage servos.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
I am wondering from those who have used them - if HV servos ( I happen to be a JR user) have been perfect or if there is any issue with them?
I will be running 2S lipo and would use a 1222 receiver.
Plan B is what I usually use - Weatronic receiver, same batteries and standard voltage servos.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Dave,
I have been using the 8911 HV's in my BVM F-100 for two years now and i have not had 1 single issue with them at all. I'm running a Spectrum 12120 power safe receiver and two 5000 mh lipo's none regulated and it's a great set-up. I also have all the other surfaces and controls on HV servos. ABSOLUTLY NO ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!
I have been using the 8911 HV's in my BVM F-100 for two years now and i have not had 1 single issue with them at all. I'm running a Spectrum 12120 power safe receiver and two 5000 mh lipo's none regulated and it's a great set-up. I also have all the other surfaces and controls on HV servos. ABSOLUTLY NO ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!
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That is what I have for a winter project. All JR 8911 HV. Also trying electric retracts and a E brake. I have used 8911 HV in a couple of projects and have not had any trouble. Just got my Hawk and looking forward to the build. What are you using for a turbine.
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I am having Down and Locked do them. I was going to but a JC 160 in but used it on another project. So I guess it will be a JC 180.
I have a Tutor with a 160 and it could yse a little more power, maybe i'll change it with the 180. I have a new BAE display color scheme that the Brits cam out with this year.
I have a Tutor with a 160 and it could yse a little more power, maybe i'll change it with the 180. I have a new BAE display color scheme that the Brits cam out with this year.
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Dave I've got that set up in my Hawk and it works perfect except if your elevator swings over center and you turn on. It will instantly break a control arm. Not sure if anyone else has experienced this but it sucks. Super strong servos and nice not to have regulators. Your going to love the Hawk!!! Scott
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I've got 8 of the 8911HV on my UB, Dave, and one 8711HV on the N/G.....over 50 flights....no probs....JR also makes digital micro servos now with HV for retract and brake valves as well......
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
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RE: HV Servos or not?
I noticed no change in speed with the 123's(they are very fast), but there is some loss of power from the 470 oz at 7.4 down to 200 oz at 4.8v. according to the spec page. So at 6.6v, presuming a linear drop, you still should have about 390 oz +/-
Spec page does mention A123/LiFe as suitable......
TA
Spec page does mention A123/LiFe as suitable......
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Seems like SM Large Hawks with JR 8911's are all the rage Dave! Considering you are GIVING AWAY your UB (why ARE you selling her BTW???)
Anyways, my SM Hawk 100 was supposed to be here by now, and lo and behold, I of course have EIGHT 8911's coming with her along with A123 receiver packs from Electrodynamics and Andy Low.
Dave we should do our build together!!! Are you going to use the BVM manual?
Anyways, now that I crashed your HV servo thread (sorry), I would agree with Tom Antlfinger's extremely knowledgeable and well written post above. 8911 + A123's = winner combo!
Shaz
Anyways, my SM Hawk 100 was supposed to be here by now, and lo and behold, I of course have EIGHT 8911's coming with her along with A123 receiver packs from Electrodynamics and Andy Low.
Dave we should do our build together!!! Are you going to use the BVM manual?
Anyways, now that I crashed your HV servo thread (sorry), I would agree with Tom Antlfinger's extremely knowledgeable and well written post above. 8911 + A123's = winner combo!
Shaz
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ORIGINAL: Boating Bob
That is what I have for a winter project. All JR 8911 HV. Also trying electric retracts and a E brake. I have used 8911 HV in a couple of projects and have not had any trouble. Just got my Hawk and looking forward to the build. What are you using for a turbine.
That is what I have for a winter project. All JR 8911 HV. Also trying electric retracts and a E brake. I have used 8911 HV in a couple of projects and have not had any trouble. Just got my Hawk and looking forward to the build. What are you using for a turbine.
George
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ORIGINAL: Tom Antlfinger
I've got 8 of the 8911HV on my UB, Dave, and one 8711HV on the N/G.....over 50 flights....no probs....JR also makes digital micro servos now with HV for retract and brake valves as well......
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
I've got 8 of the 8911HV on my UB, Dave, and one 8711HV on the N/G.....over 50 flights....no probs....JR also makes digital micro servos now with HV for retract and brake valves as well......
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
Just a question here but if you are powering the 8911's with only A 123's why would you go to the extra expense of the 8911's over an 8711 when you can get 406oz. at 6 volts. Just curious are they quicker or for some other reason. One thing that Horizon is starting to show on their website though, is that the 8711 and 8411 are on the discountnued list, which I am not too happy about. I hope this is not true.
Thanks for your comments.
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I am going to try a modified BVM E-Brake. I will use 2 cylinders on one mount with a large servo in the center. One cylinder pointed each way to operate one brake each. Mounted on the bottom under the intake
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RE: HV Servos or not?
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The 8711HV is a better servo, and more expensive than an 8911HV. the 8911 is a plastic case, where the 8711 is an all aluminum case. Toms UB has the better 8711HV servos from tip to tail.
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Hi Tom
Just a question here but if you are powering the 8911's with only A 123's why would you go to the extra expense of the 8911's over an 8711 when you can get 406oz. at 6 volts. Just curious are they quicker or for some other reason. One thing that Horizon is starting to show on their website though, is that the 8711 and 8411 are on the discountnued list, which I am not too happy about. I hope this is not true.
Thanks for your comments.
ORIGINAL: Tom Antlfinger
I've got 8 of the 8911HV on my UB, Dave, and one 8711HV on the N/G.....over 50 flights....no probs....JR also makes digital micro servos now with HV for retract and brake valves as well......
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
I've got 8 of the 8911HV on my UB, Dave, and one 8711HV on the N/G.....over 50 flights....no probs....JR also makes digital micro servos now with HV for retract and brake valves as well......
Originally I was running dual 7.4/4000 LiPo's into a 1222, but switched over to dual 2300/A123 for the last 20 or so flights.....IMO safer when charging, and field charging with a CellPro 10S dual output A123 charger at 4 amps re-loads them to 100% in the time it takes to refuel and pre-flight.
TA
Just a question here but if you are powering the 8911's with only A 123's why would you go to the extra expense of the 8911's over an 8711 when you can get 406oz. at 6 volts. Just curious are they quicker or for some other reason. One thing that Horizon is starting to show on their website though, is that the 8711 and 8411 are on the discountnued list, which I am not too happy about. I hope this is not true.
Thanks for your comments.
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Geeeez! Senility is really setting in......just passed #70 couple of weeks ago......Guess it is time to sell my jets and stick to my 1oz indoor heli's...[]
Kirk knows what is in the UB as Kirk built the plane and I bought it RTF.......I remembered the 8711 HV on the N/G, but somehow got locked on to the 8911's. Just had the flap servo and aileron covers off last week, looking straight at 8711 HV's...
In any case, the presumed linear drop in 8711HV motor power should be the same as the 8911HV.....as power is near identical to 8911, they may be using the same motor?
Thanks Kirk......
Good question AKB......I bought the UB RTF with the 8711HV servos installed with 2 Lipo Bats.......
Kirk knows what is in the UB as Kirk built the plane and I bought it RTF.......I remembered the 8711 HV on the N/G, but somehow got locked on to the 8911's. Just had the flap servo and aileron covers off last week, looking straight at 8711 HV's...
In any case, the presumed linear drop in 8711HV motor power should be the same as the 8911HV.....as power is near identical to 8911, they may be using the same motor?
Thanks Kirk......
Good question AKB......I bought the UB RTF with the 8711HV servos installed with 2 Lipo Bats.......
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If you guys want some serious servo power take a look at the JR 6301, metal cased servos, the HV version, the 6311, take upto 8 .4 v but are rated at 7.4 V for 36.5kg/cm , 40% up on 8911s. A reduction to 6v drops the torque about 10% .
Using those on the stabs and flaps on my SG Hawk. MP80Ts, brushless, on ailerons, very active with a gyro in operation.
With a Weatronics system one can select the voltage to groups of servos, perfect.
See www.rcjapan.net
Don't give up because you're 70 Tom you're ahead of me, my pathfinder !
Regards,
David G.
Using those on the stabs and flaps on my SG Hawk. MP80Ts, brushless, on ailerons, very active with a gyro in operation.
With a Weatronics system one can select the voltage to groups of servos, perfect.
See www.rcjapan.net
Don't give up because you're 70 Tom you're ahead of me, my pathfinder !
Regards,
David G.
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ORIGINAL: Andrew Bird
I've been using 8711HV's and 8911HV's (also some 6311's when in Europe) for a while now in a mixture of planes, but mainly 40% IMAC / 3d aircraft. I have managed to wear out the cases on the 8911 HV's in those applications (but no such issue with the metal cased 8711HV/6311) pretty quickly and the servos get sloppy but I suspect the loads on a jet with smaller surfaces, lower travel and shorter servo output arms would be fine. I use MP80t's on my Ultra Bandit and have found them brilliant. There are no issues with case wear and it's basically the same case as the 8911HV.
I've been using 8711HV's and 8911HV's (also some 6311's when in Europe) for a while now in a mixture of planes, but mainly 40% IMAC / 3d aircraft. I have managed to wear out the cases on the 8911 HV's in those applications (but no such issue with the metal cased 8711HV/6311) pretty quickly and the servos get sloppy but I suspect the loads on a jet with smaller surfaces, lower travel and shorter servo output arms would be fine. I use MP80t's on my Ultra Bandit and have found them brilliant. There are no issues with case wear and it's basically the same case as the 8911HV.