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Old 10-29-2012, 10:22 PM
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James, seems to me that a plastic tube (ABS) is more prone to wear, especially on planes that are flown hard. Do you feel that the ABS is superior over bearings?
Old 10-30-2012, 06:29 AM
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Fender,
You said all what I want to say. I really really agree that elevator should be bearing.
Whatever material used for this elevator support, at the moment this elevator is very stiff without any modify.
I'm wondering what Mr,Liu did do his jet, and configuration.

James,
That's very good approach. The buyer definetly want bearing on the elevator even it is option.
By the way James, can I also buy elevator support parts with bearing to modify it like old version style same as Fenders's one?
I need whole related parts.
Old 10-30-2012, 06:37 AM
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Thanks, I'll do.
But I'm still thinking what is the best solution to clear this issue.
I'm expecting FEJ supporting.
Old 10-30-2012, 08:18 AM
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Hey suhakkogi, give it a try, It can always be changed later and that way you can make your own determination on the new design. I am a product of tradition and just like when 2.4ghz started people were very reluctant to switch over. It could be a solid design for this application, and if it does work its kinda a good thing since you lose some weight from the wood/bearings of traditional setups.
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Thanks for your advice.
After long thinking I decided to go original application.
But there is still remained thing to be solved. I just try it.
Old 11-06-2012, 05:54 AM
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Hi

here are couple photos to show the new set up on elevators.

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James
Hi james, The basic idea on the elevators is good, but the geometery could be better. For me the pick-up point on the servo would have to be much further back (or forward) from the pivot point on the elevator ideally at least halfway between pivot point and trailing or leading edge to give a much greater mechanical advantage to the servo.

The only downside would be you might see the 'curved slot' above and below the elevator because your moving away from the thickest part of the surface (pivot point)

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:58 AM
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The only problem with that the further u move away from the shaft the more the more travel required and u can only cut a small slit for servo arm.
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If you cant get enough movement with the servo further away, then for me it's not a viable way of doing things.

I really hope the smal F-18 doesnt have this set-up, if it does and i cant modify it, it's a deal breaker.

Old 11-06-2012, 08:54 AM
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Well if if servo arm sits in the same place it does with the old style rods, torque applied doesnt change and you take out linkage slop. The more i think about that part of the design i like it, but i personally feel the bearing on the shaft is better. Over time there will be some wear, dirt and g loading is normal wear.
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Anyone have a good RTF weight for a new all honeycomb 1/6 f-16?
Old 12-11-2012, 06:59 PM
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from what I was told its about 6lbs less, but thats what I was told.
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Anyone have a good RTF weight for a new all honeycomb 1/6 f-16?
Old 12-11-2012, 07:03 PM
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What did yours weigh again?
Old 12-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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Hi Boomer see my post#661 on page 27 for weight with honeycombe.
Old 06-27-2013, 10:55 AM
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I was looking but may of missed it, do you have a pic or can you tell me were the elevators sit in the nuteral position

Thanks david
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Fender closed his account as stated in his f-15/14 his friend maybe able to help you get in contact with him.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11...10/key_/tm.htm

Looks like M3Baker knows him
Old 06-30-2013, 07:45 AM
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We did the maiden of my FEJ 1/6 scale F16 this week - thunderbird scheme. The jet flys very well and I am very happy with the quality and great customer service from FEJ. I really like the honeycomb as I believe it is stronger and lighter than conventional construction (all stress bearing formers and mounts are plywood). Many thanks to my builder (Nir Schweizer), who did another awesome build job for me and also did the initial test flights. Also thanks to all the awesome dudes at Farview Flyers for the advice and help. The jet flys on a Rhino, has DFS lights, and a Tam custom pipe. Weight is estimated at about 35lbs with CG at 220.
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:58 AM
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Its funny you say customer service, these guys even blew off fender who helped fej turn their crappy reputation around. Yeah great service
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We did the maiden of my FEJ 1/6 scale F16 this week - thunderbird scheme. The jet flys very well and I am very happy with the quality and great customer service from FEJ. I really like the honeycomb as I believe it is stronger and lighter than conventional construction (all stress bearing formers and mounts are plywood). Many thanks to my builder (Nir Schweizer), who did another awesome build job for me and also did the initial test flights. Also thanks to all the awesome dudes at Farview Flyers for the advice and help. The jet flys on a Rhino, has DFS lights, and a Tam custom pipe. Weight is estimated at about 35lbs with CG at 220.
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I was posting my experience in what has been a constructive build thread. There are other multiple "bash FEJ" threads that are probably more appropriate for your negative and confrontational vitriol.
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Its funny you say customer service, these guys even blew off fender who helped fej turn their crappy reputation around. Yeah great service
ORIGINAL: RCflyerCT

We did the maiden of my FEJ 1/6 scale F16 this week - thunderbird scheme. The jet flys very well and I am very happy with the quality and great customer service from FEJ. I really like the honeycomb as I believe it is stronger and lighter than conventional construction (all stress bearing formers and mounts are plywood). Many thanks to my builder (Nir Schweizer), who did another awesome build job for me and also did the initial test flights. Also thanks to all the awesome dudes at Farview Flyers for the advice and help. The jet flys on a Rhino, has DFS lights, and a Tam custom pipe. Weight is estimated at about 35lbs with CG at 220.
Old 06-30-2013, 11:08 AM
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Wes,

It was good to see you and Nir again,and we're very happy about your successful outing. Good luck with your beautiful new airplane,and come back and hang with us soon. Take care,

Erik
Old 06-30-2013, 11:19 AM
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Just saying it is well known their service sucks, and when you need parts and you will need parts remember this statement.  I wish fender would let everyone here read all the emails from these guys, keith kept every email from both James and Lowell since the first day he started in jets. I'm just glad I called him before ordering. I do wish you good luck and hope my comment is wrong.
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Hello
can somebody help me whit some pictures about elev servo installation?
Thanks
Angel
Old 03-09-2015, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by acabrera11
Hello
can somebody help me whit some pictures about elev servo installation?
Thanks
Angel
Hello, if you look at post # 100 there are a few pics of the elevator install...Cheers
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Thanks FB, I was looking your thread, just excellet.
but my Falcon goes whit the servos outside, I think that this way is not as good as yours, IMHO a shaft 90degres of servo arm reduces the servo torque, and that shaft is not tight enough, so the flutter can come whit a lot of problems.
please I need to know if somebody did whit the outside servo? How it works? And what hardware use to that.
thanks
Angel
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Another question, how to avoid that the elev main shaft go out? Whit a collar? How to avoid friction between collar and plástic PVC tube?
thanks, pictures are welcome.
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My stab had a small white plastic ring that kept the gap


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