Byron P-38 Lightning
12-21-2012, 03:56 PM
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Byron P-38 Lightning
Hello,
Had a club member pass away and we are trying to find out what the value of a Byron P-38 lightning kit. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Holidays
Lewis
Had a club member pass away and we are trying to find out what the value of a Byron P-38 lightning kit. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Happy Holidays
Lewis
12-21-2012, 05:46 PM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Most likely a Yellow Aircraft if it has a "green" fuse. Check to see if it has foam core wings that are already sheeted. If so, then it is a Yellow. If it is bare white foam, then it is a Byron.
They sell for $1100.00 without options. Shipping is not free.
Can you post some pics?
Rebel
They sell for $1100.00 without options. Shipping is not free.
Can you post some pics?
Rebel
12-22-2012, 06:09 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Byron never had a P-38. It's either a Burt Baker kit. Which would have a yellowish brown glass fuse. Then Yellow aircraft used his design to make theirs which is as described in earlier post.
Take some pictures and post. Yellows would have a really nice canopy frame etc. Burt Bakers was an early design and the canopy frame is not as nice.
Plus the landing gear from Yellow (if thats what was used) would be alluminum. Robart gear would "USUALLY" be used on the Burt Baker design and would be made of steel struts etc.
I personally think that you wouldn't get as much for the Burt Baker kit. But if it isa Baker design. Yellows stuff fits on it, so that will set a buyer at ease on getting parts.
With out seeing the condition its difficult to help with what it's worth.
Good luck
Scott
Take some pictures and post. Yellows would have a really nice canopy frame etc. Burt Bakers was an early design and the canopy frame is not as nice.
Plus the landing gear from Yellow (if thats what was used) would be alluminum. Robart gear would "USUALLY" be used on the Burt Baker design and would be made of steel struts etc.
I personally think that you wouldn't get as much for the Burt Baker kit. But if it isa Baker design. Yellows stuff fits on it, so that will set a buyer at ease on getting parts.
With out seeing the condition its difficult to help with what it's worth.
Good luck
Scott
12-22-2012, 07:12 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
ORIGINAL: DEVILDOG
Byron never had a P-38. It's either a Burt Baker kit. Which would have a yellowish brown glass fuse. Then Yellow aircraft used his design to make theirs which is as described in earlier post.
Take some pictures and post. Yellows would have a really nice canopy frame etc. Burt Bakers was an early design and the canopy frame is not as nice.
Plus the landing gear from Yellow (if thats what was used) would be alluminum. Robart gear would ''USUALLY'' be used on the Burt Baker design and would be made of steel struts etc.
I personally think that you wouldn't get as much for the Burt Baker kit. But if it isa Baker design. Yellows stuff fits on it, so that will set a buyer at ease on getting parts.
With out seeing the condition its difficult to help with what it's worth.
Good luck
Scott
Byron never had a P-38. It's either a Burt Baker kit. Which would have a yellowish brown glass fuse. Then Yellow aircraft used his design to make theirs which is as described in earlier post.
Take some pictures and post. Yellows would have a really nice canopy frame etc. Burt Bakers was an early design and the canopy frame is not as nice.
Plus the landing gear from Yellow (if thats what was used) would be alluminum. Robart gear would ''USUALLY'' be used on the Burt Baker design and would be made of steel struts etc.
I personally think that you wouldn't get as much for the Burt Baker kit. But if it isa Baker design. Yellows stuff fits on it, so that will set a buyer at ease on getting parts.
With out seeing the condition its difficult to help with what it's worth.
Good luck
Scott
12-22-2012, 09:08 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Hi Guys,
OK the two boxes will be coming over here Sunday morning, they are Byron boxes. I did find out some more information on it. The kit was gotten through George Lue who wrote for model magazines back then and was a friend of his. It was supposed to be finished by the two of them for a magazine review, but the kit was not put into production so the work was not completed, actaully it may not even have been started. I was told there may be the engines as well.
Thanks
Lewis
OK the two boxes will be coming over here Sunday morning, they are Byron boxes. I did find out some more information on it. The kit was gotten through George Lue who wrote for model magazines back then and was a friend of his. It was supposed to be finished by the two of them for a magazine review, but the kit was not put into production so the work was not completed, actaully it may not even have been started. I was told there may be the engines as well.
Thanks
Lewis
12-22-2012, 10:34 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Considering there is NO chance in getting missing parts, and the likely hood that it may or may not include any sort of reliable information as far as building, flying information etc. it really depends on what the buyer is willing to pay for it as this is a VERY odd thing to see. Normally these pre-production models never leave a companies asset's, so to find one is very rare.
12-22-2012, 03:50 PM
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Its GOLD, if its a pre-production kit of anything, that did not actually go into production, ebay it, and let it find its own level, SERIOUSLY, kits collectors will drool over it
12-22-2012, 07:15 PM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
I have a big, full color spread of the Byron prototype in one of my old Scale R/C Modeler magazines. While it is a very cool airplane it was typical Byron in that it was not particularly scale. I would definitely do some market research to see if there would be enough of a market to warrant molding it before going through all the work. Just my .02 cents of course.
12-23-2012, 04:08 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
ORIGINAL: Ram-bro
WHAT WOULD BE IN IT FOR THE LUCKY GUY
sorry for the caps
WHAT WOULD BE IN IT FOR THE LUCKY GUY
sorry for the caps
12-23-2012, 07:42 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Very Interesting.
I did not know Byron made a P-38
If it's real, then it's very unique
And like anything very unique, its value on the market is dictated by whatever an interested collector is willing to pay for it.
Then you have a market precedent for the next one (if there is one)
I have a NIB's Byron Hellcat I picked up at an estate sale several years ago.
Judging by the offers I've received, it's market value is less than the original sale price.
But, of course, it was a commonly built and flown model. In its day.
Please show pictures!
Here's the center-frame of my yet-unbuilt Robart-38
mt
I did not know Byron made a P-38
If it's real, then it's very unique
And like anything very unique, its value on the market is dictated by whatever an interested collector is willing to pay for it.
Then you have a market precedent for the next one (if there is one)
I have a NIB's Byron Hellcat I picked up at an estate sale several years ago.
Judging by the offers I've received, it's market value is less than the original sale price.
But, of course, it was a commonly built and flown model. In its day.
Please show pictures!
Here's the center-frame of my yet-unbuilt Robart-38
mt
12-23-2012, 10:34 AM
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RE: Byron P-38 Lightning
Hi Guys,
I want to thank you for all of your input and interest. To answer all of the questions at once here it goes. The kit is in fact the Byron Originals P-38 and was given to George Lue for a magazine review. The kit is 100% complete, and untouched, with two A&M Sachs engines, scale retracts, hand written assembly instructions, scale wheels and pilot. Most of the stuff was still sealed in the packages.
The kit has been sold to Al , who is on his way here right now from PA to pick it up, should be here shortly. Now should anyone ask what the market value is of a kit like this, all I will say is it sold well north of $2000 . His wife is thrilled, it will help pay off house repairs from Sandy.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all
Lewis
I want to thank you for all of your input and interest. To answer all of the questions at once here it goes. The kit is in fact the Byron Originals P-38 and was given to George Lue for a magazine review. The kit is 100% complete, and untouched, with two A&M Sachs engines, scale retracts, hand written assembly instructions, scale wheels and pilot. Most of the stuff was still sealed in the packages.
The kit has been sold to Al , who is on his way here right now from PA to pick it up, should be here shortly. Now should anyone ask what the market value is of a kit like this, all I will say is it sold well north of $2000 . His wife is thrilled, it will help pay off house repairs from Sandy.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to all
Lewis
12-23-2012, 02:36 PM
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I would not have sold it at all, it's kinda like finding Glacier Girl don't you think.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...55534169,d.b2I
Bob
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...55534169,d.b2I
Bob
