Ringed 2 Stroke Break In
Cody
Gotcha, I was always under the impression that over lubricating when breaking in just meant that the ring/sleeve wouldn't reach operating temp which would just prolong the break in period.
As far as prop load I use a small diameter with plenty of pitch. That way it revs and has plenty of air over the engine.
Sounds like a waste of perfectly good fuel to me personally.
Fly it slightly rich.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned so far is that it's not just the ring to liner seal that has to mate but also the ring to the bottom of the ring groove which needs a perfect seal against combustion pressure.
I might add that the hour of running on the stand consumed about a quart (for the Yanks ) of fuel.
But.. truth is I have not purchased a ringed engine in 2 decades + .. except for a Moki 2.10 I just snagged but have not run yet.
It appears all the experts have their own idea on how to break-in a ringed engine. The expert I would listen to would be the owners manual. They know a thing or two about that engine. Personally, if I can get it to hold an idle and transition OK, I go flying. Good luck, it is a nice engine. Treat her nice.
The topic of engine break-in is a can of worms as stated earlier. Everyone has their own way of doing it.
Some manufacturers are very specific and talk the language of a company that wants to convey detailed, accurate technical information for the owner without diluting the operating procedures for the mass market - Jett for example.
OS engines are pretty darn good quality, I agree, but what they chiefly are to me is user-friendly, i.e. you can fly with minimal break-in and they are generally easy to adjust. Quality can be defined in a number of ways, depending what is most important to the owner. I think there is a strong tendency to think that the quicker you can get the engine into the air and get on with flying, the better it is in all other ways. To me it speaks of good quality control and manufacturing techniques, but also of an engine whose fits are kept conservative to avoid headaches for the owner.
OS engines are well made with very good machining and casting quality. They are engineered to be user friendly and that includes a quick break in. Close tolerances are part of it, but most good brands have just as close tolerance. Softer metal is another reason for quick break in. This is why the lower end OS breaks in quickly and has a short life. The higher end OS engines takes longer to break in and lasts longer.
jeffie - Theodore von Kármán - a legend in aero circles if there ever there was one - was a strong advocate of debate and controversy in the learning process. Mind you, I don't think he was talking about mindless arguing.. not that we have any of that here, just a variety of observations and opinions.
The 95 was a pain to get fully broke in, did the breakin per manual and it took over a gallon more to get it running good.
Keep in mind when I say softer metal I am not talking a huge differance. Not that the metal is really soft or extra cheap. The engines have plenty of life for most, just not the near indestructible longivity of some others. Some of the old Fox engines for example did not get to full power for several gallons and run for hundreds of hours maybe even over a thousand hours before being worn out. Most sport engines are lucky to last two hundred hours. But that might be a couple of decades or more for some.
I think Duke ran one engine till a 55 gallon barrel of fuel ran through it and it still had good compression. I think it ran over a thousand hours.
Tells you how to break in a REAL aircraft engine... (from the manufacturer)
Don't baby your engines....
http://republicseabee.com/Files/Tips...ine%20Care.pdf
Dave
I have owner many OS engine over the past forty years. They have all been temperamental. The new style carbs have been extremely hard to work with. I would like to pass along what I learned over these many years.
I have an OS 91 and 95 currently. I believe your problems will be resolved for the most part by replacing the glow plug with a Fox long plug with "idle bar". You can order these from Fox direct if your local shop doesn’t carry them. Tower stopped showing them in there catalog but stillhave them.
Of further importance is that you read and re read OS low end needle valve adjustment. Make adjustments 1/8 turned at a time. Run engine if response is not correct, shut down, make 1/8 turn adjustment and start up and try again until sounds and tacks well when holding up.
Pass this on and let me know.
Sounds like a waste of perfectly good fuel to me personally.
Fly it slightly rich.
I crank a new engine, open it up, adjust rich, take off and fly. I usually don't speed more than a minute on the ground - waste of fuel, less cooling and more dirt. If it happens to cut off, which is rare, I land.
+2 to both comments.
Ringed engines don;t need a long break in period. Having the ring run cold for long periods will actually wear it out faster since the the engine is not up to its working dimensions.
Set the needles to just slightly rich and heat cycle it on the ground using the throttle.
idle - gradually increase throttle to mid - leave there for 10 secs, throttle back to idle,
repeat but stop at a slightly higher throttle setting on each cycle till youhave cycled it to WOT.
Make sure the engine does not die at idle i.e. ensure the transition is good, then go fly it keeping WOT to a minimum (but it should be run at WOT for short periods) and avoid verticals that are longer than 5 seconds give or take a few either way.
Its should be broken in after the 4th or 5th tank and thereafter you can start to extend the verticals.
avoid changing the throttle responce hydraulically i.e. openig and closing the needle between excessively rich and just above. This places a lot of unnecessary stress on the ring.
Temperamentel???? OS engines are like kittens!!! Very easy to run,set and handle!
All you have to do is to use 5% nitro fuel and 18-20% oil,and rest methanol.
Suitable glow plugs are the old stand byes: OS 8 or Enya 3.