WARNING AVOID NITRO PLANES!
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I have a composite arf 2.6 meter. If i hit a tree i will end up buying a complete airframe $1000+ ! GET A GRIP You bought a cheap airplane. If you want a repairable airplane buy a plane from horizon or tower that has a parts list for it. You will pay more money, but will be able to keep the it in the air.
I also own Dynam biplane. If i crash it i do not expect to be able to buy parts for it, will get on the ca or order a new plane.BTW The Dynam Biplane rocks for the money!
I also own Dynam biplane. If i crash it i do not expect to be able to buy parts for it, will get on the ca or order a new plane.BTW The Dynam Biplane rocks for the money!
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Yes, Dynam and Durafly planes do rock for the money. However, when my flying buddies break something on theirs, and I break something on my PZ T-28 I can pretty much fly the same day; they have to wait weeks to get parts if they are even available. So, the lesson here is, don't always let price sway you. Always expect a downside if you go cheap.
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Ohhh so you are another one of those people that blame others for your crashing, stop blaming the company you bought the plane from. It's not there fault you can't fly.
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Hey Rpilot,
When we grow up maybe we can be like Sgt. and just keep buying new planes. I for one can't afford to pay $200 every time I brake a wing like some. I expect to replace the part and move on! Nitro's planes still cost plenty and the shipping is no laughing matter. I bought both a T-28 and an F4U Corsair from Horizon when they first came out. I love to put a lot of detail into my warplanes and don't have the time to start over after every crash. Spare parts are always available from Horizon, Tower, Hobbyzone and other reputable dealers. Most of us realize you're not looking to blame somebody else for your crash or negate respomsibility; just looking for repair parts.
Good thing Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota etc don't do business like the morons at Nitro.
Hey Rpilot,
When we grow up maybe we can be like Sgt. and just keep buying new planes. I for one can't afford to pay $200 every time I brake a wing like some. I expect to replace the part and move on! Nitro's planes still cost plenty and the shipping is no laughing matter. I bought both a T-28 and an F4U Corsair from Horizon when they first came out. I love to put a lot of detail into my warplanes and don't have the time to start over after every crash. Spare parts are always available from Horizon, Tower, Hobbyzone and other reputable dealers. Most of us realize you're not looking to blame somebody else for your crash or negate respomsibility; just looking for repair parts.
Good thing Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota etc don't do business like the morons at Nitro.
Ohhh so you are another one of those people that blame others for your crashing, stop blaming the company you bought the plane from. It's not there fault you can't fly.
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ORIGINAL: radfordc
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
The whole concept of selling spare parts is fairly new and just because a company doesn't do it isn't a reason to hate. Here is an idea...check first before buying a plane to see if spares are available.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
The whole concept of selling spare parts is fairly new and just because a company doesn't do it isn't a reason to hate. Here is an idea...check first before buying a plane to see if spares are available.
who would have thought [:-]
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ORIGINAL: fly24-7 Not everyone wants to actually practicing modeling. Some want to plug and play. While that offends the sensibilities of many here on RCU, it's called evolution. Things change over time and not everyone likes the trend. That's life.
I would say it is more in the realm of preferences, of which there is much freedom in. Main thing is to enjoy what you are doing, whether it is ARF and ARF parts, building from kits or scratch and repairing, ARF flying and self repairing, etc. If someone does like it, and if we aren't doing something wrong like breaking rules, then tough grits to others. Life is too short to let others control one's happiness.
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Just read the reviews....why would anyone buy from Nitro, banana, etc. Every time someone brings one in the shop
looking for alternative parts that never work, I ask did you see all the bad reviews? Answer "yes but I thought I might get a good one" DUH!
looking for alternative parts that never work, I ask did you see all the bad reviews? Answer "yes but I thought I might get a good one" DUH!
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Hey Rpilot,
When we grow up maybe we can be like Sgt. and just keep buying new planes. I for one can't afford to pay $200 every time I brake a wing like some. I expect to replace the part and move on! Nitro's planes still cost plenty and the shipping is no laughing matter. I bought both a T-28 and an F4U Corsair from Horizon when they first came out. I love to put a lot of detail into my warplanes and don't have the time to start over after every crash. Spare parts are always available from Horizon, Tower, Hobbyzone and other reputable dealers. Most of us realize you're not looking to blame somebody else for your crash or negate respomsibility; just looking for repair parts.
Good thing Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota etc don't do business like the morons at Nitro.
Hey Rpilot,
When we grow up maybe we can be like Sgt. and just keep buying new planes. I for one can't afford to pay $200 every time I brake a wing like some. I expect to replace the part and move on! Nitro's planes still cost plenty and the shipping is no laughing matter. I bought both a T-28 and an F4U Corsair from Horizon when they first came out. I love to put a lot of detail into my warplanes and don't have the time to start over after every crash. Spare parts are always available from Horizon, Tower, Hobbyzone and other reputable dealers. Most of us realize you're not looking to blame somebody else for your crash or negate respomsibility; just looking for repair parts.
Good thing Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota etc don't do business like the morons at Nitro.
I see, I see.
Chris...
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My wife bought me the Dynam PBY from Nitroplanes for Christmas. (It came in two days and was really well packaged and so far it all works as advertised.) It's really cool. When I flip it in the drink (it's a flying boat, for the uninitiated) and the esc's or motors, or servos quit, I'll know it was my fault and I'll fix or replace them with my own dough, because the replacement parts will be sub-standard compared to what I can buy at the store. And, it'll be my fault that they quit.
When I stuffed my Park Zone Bf-109 (difficult to fly for a new to R/C guy, I knew that going in but even if I didn't it would still be true and my ultimate responsibility), it was pretty smashed, many pieces, but I glued it back together with 5 minute epoxy and flew it more. When I cratered it at the paved field, it needed parts, all available from Park Zone. I bought what I wanted, fixed the rest, painted it a little to take the edge off of the repairs, and flew it more.
Moral of the story, this ain't a computer game, it's toy airplanes and they get smashed. Fix or replace. Welcome to the jungle, baby! Buy from China on the cheap or buy from Illinois for a little bit more, it's your choice.
Chris...
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I just read all these post and nitro is a mixed bag of god and evil i bought a electric plane from them and it was pretty normal ,so i ordered a 55cc ultimate bi plane and a tiger moth. I opened the boxes soon as i recieved them because i was going on vacation well the tiger moth looked like itwas missing parts the hardware bags opened and nuts bots pieces parts were everywhere and no manual, not that it would have been any good to use for other than inventory. My ultimate was pretty much the same so i called and reported it to them and was told they would send them out or i could return the planes but was told they could ship missing parts right away. this all started june 1 2012 well seven months later and twenty conversations and 12 open tickets still no parts the final call was me chewing them out and then telling the girl im not mad at her but that nitro is a company that leaves a bad wake behind them she said she would fix this and by golly she got parts sent just that they are not for either plane i ordered and by the way the hardware for the tigermoth 120 looks rusted and it either not there or your shorted i spent 100.00 or for hardware but put nice stuff on it. the ultimate is really nice hardware will use it all but no wing tubes and some hardware missing. The price of these planes is very good the ultimate is a really good buy if you know up front what you are up agaist dont be in a hurry to put it togeather or be prepaired to wait for ever for parts they do not have and if its a fast moving plane they will sell out and the policey is to never take parts out of a boxed plane sp i know people that bought planes months after i did and i was still waiting for mine.I will never buyfrom them again its not worth the frustration. My friend bought the giant cubwing was damaged in frieght they saidthey would send a new set he repaired the ones he had he recieved the set8 months later wish i knew thiswhen i was looking at them to purchase.I know that some of you may love nitro but i now know that there are alot of people who do not.Just ask around !!
CONS PROS
1 parts are hard to get in a desent time frame 1 very low price some planes are very nice
2repair parts are hard to geton fast moving planes
3 some of the hardware is very bad and rusted
4 they can sell but they cant sevice you
5 YOUGETWHATYOUPAYFOR!!!
CONS PROS
1 parts are hard to get in a desent time frame 1 very low price some planes are very nice
2repair parts are hard to geton fast moving planes
3 some of the hardware is very bad and rusted
4 they can sell but they cant sevice you
5 YOUGETWHATYOUPAYFOR!!!
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Hey Stuntflyr,
What is so cheap about Horizon's F4U and T-28? Both are great flyers and yes I can fly as well as anyone. Yet crashes are part of flying.
What part of spare parts from a distributor do you NOT understand? And how is that related to taking responsibility? I crash, I repair.... it's that simple; even simpler if I can get parts. I would suggest you open a window when using CA. These simple princibles may become clearer for you!
What is so cheap about Horizon's F4U and T-28? Both are great flyers and yes I can fly as well as anyone. Yet crashes are part of flying.
What part of spare parts from a distributor do you NOT understand? And how is that related to taking responsibility? I crash, I repair.... it's that simple; even simpler if I can get parts. I would suggest you open a window when using CA. These simple princibles may become clearer for you!
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Hey Sarg,
How did you get from expecting "good service, customer satisfaction, and parts support "to lack of responsibility for a crash? BTW, I'll put my flying skills against your any day.
Let me know what dimension you're from so I can visit the land of "no crash".
How did you get from expecting "good service, customer satisfaction, and parts support "to lack of responsibility for a crash? BTW, I'll put my flying skills against your any day.
Let me know what dimension you're from so I can visit the land of "no crash".
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I actually have a chance to vist the main distributing wharehouse for Nitro Models in San Gabreil Valley. I have met and talked to the owner and observed the operation. It is a LARGE internet distribution center. They do try to do spare parts but because all the merchandise comes pre-packaged from China the only way to do spare parts is to open a new kit and sell you a parrt out of that; which they will do ocassionaly. If a spare part is requested a lot they my get a shipment but it has to come from overseas. I also know the owner of Banana.
Lets face it we created this problem and passed it on to the new commers. the first generation ARF's were cheap and bad, but as the quality came up we kept buying and now only dedicated builders can compete. If you talk about time and price it is not even close. It is really a drag when you work on a sratch built project for a couple of years to have a unique airplane then some ARF company floods the market with your pride and joy made out of foam jusrt before you finish.
Bottom line your airplane was dirt cheap; so you should buy a whole new one and start over. We want it cheap ,we want it fast and we wan to fly it now,and then we expect customer service SHAME on us.
Lets face it we created this problem and passed it on to the new commers. the first generation ARF's were cheap and bad, but as the quality came up we kept buying and now only dedicated builders can compete. If you talk about time and price it is not even close. It is really a drag when you work on a sratch built project for a couple of years to have a unique airplane then some ARF company floods the market with your pride and joy made out of foam jusrt before you finish.
Bottom line your airplane was dirt cheap; so you should buy a whole new one and start over. We want it cheap ,we want it fast and we wan to fly it now,and then we expect customer service SHAME on us.
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OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLMRBjjeoo
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Now you're at the point where you apply your clever, creative hobby skills. Fix the wing, or if it's not fixable.......build an entirely new wing. And don't waste time obsessing about companies like Nitro Planes. Lower your expectations of NitroPlanes, fix the wing yourself, be proud of your clever wing-fixing hobby skills, and have fun.
Welcome to the sport Junior Birdman!
Welcome to the sport Junior Birdman!
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Reminds me of the movie. Good call brother. You have taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLMRBjjeoo
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OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBLMRBjjeoo
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R Pilot,
Check the following at KillerPlanes.com. They're actually quite local to our club and we invited Steve and Denise to attend one of our meetings and explain his products and what he calls crash-proofing but in reality is more like crash-toughening since nothing is actually crash proof. The price isn't too bad and he does stock spare parts. Make sure you check out the video, it's got some pretty impressive flying characteristics. The guy flying is Steve the company owner. He likes to goof around for sure.
http://www.killerplanes.com/product/...po-rc-airplane
Good luck and happy flying.
Regards,
Check the following at KillerPlanes.com. They're actually quite local to our club and we invited Steve and Denise to attend one of our meetings and explain his products and what he calls crash-proofing but in reality is more like crash-toughening since nothing is actually crash proof. The price isn't too bad and he does stock spare parts. Make sure you check out the video, it's got some pretty impressive flying characteristics. The guy flying is Steve the company owner. He likes to goof around for sure.
http://www.killerplanes.com/product/...po-rc-airplane
Good luck and happy flying.
Regards,
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I agree that Nitro Models Inc., owners of NitroRCX, Hobby Partz, Nitro Planes, XHeli, etc....is a "mixed bag".
Many forum users have had great experiences with the distributor. I, personally, will never order from them again.
If you absolutely love to talk on the phone, while a customer service specialist holds your proverbial hand, then I recommend Horizon Hobbies and their respective brands. HobbyZone, ParkZone, E-flite, Hangar 9, etc....
If you prefer to fly, crash, repair, and repeat....then the monetary savings from Asian distributors is worth the lack of product support.
But, make no mistake! All ARF and RTF models are made in Asia! Taiwan, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Vietnam .... whatever.
Hobbico, Inc. also provides decent customer service, but you will pay more for their excellent return policies and expedited communication.
The previous suggestion, to buy an entire replacement plane, is a good idea. Nitro Models constantly discontinues older products, and fails to remove the merchandise from their website. So, find any spare parts, while you still can. And, the cost of major replacement parts can often justify buying the entire ARF, anyways.
Also, learn to repair you models, because this will help you become a better builder!
Multiplex products are quite an exception. EPO foam is so durable, that you will never have it that "Easy" again.
The more obvious sailplane to fly, after - hopefully - mastering the Easy Star, is the Easy Glider. But, be prepared to spend2-3 times the money!
Or....clip the Easy Star's wingtips, add ailerons and a brushless inrunner, and four-channel radio....
The major problem I see with Nitro Planes, is the strictlydot-com business model. I, literally, found it easier to reach their employees throughsocial networks, rather than a traditional business channel, like telephones and e-mail. ????
The company survived a change in management, and promised better customer service with the new management, but the people who actually do the work, are still young and inexperienced.
And, obviously, so are you .... keep flying, and after you master a primary trainer - then and only then -decide if you like this hobby for the longhaul.
Many forum users have had great experiences with the distributor. I, personally, will never order from them again.
If you absolutely love to talk on the phone, while a customer service specialist holds your proverbial hand, then I recommend Horizon Hobbies and their respective brands. HobbyZone, ParkZone, E-flite, Hangar 9, etc....
If you prefer to fly, crash, repair, and repeat....then the monetary savings from Asian distributors is worth the lack of product support.
But, make no mistake! All ARF and RTF models are made in Asia! Taiwan, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Vietnam .... whatever.
Hobbico, Inc. also provides decent customer service, but you will pay more for their excellent return policies and expedited communication.
The previous suggestion, to buy an entire replacement plane, is a good idea. Nitro Models constantly discontinues older products, and fails to remove the merchandise from their website. So, find any spare parts, while you still can. And, the cost of major replacement parts can often justify buying the entire ARF, anyways.
Also, learn to repair you models, because this will help you become a better builder!
Multiplex products are quite an exception. EPO foam is so durable, that you will never have it that "Easy" again.
The more obvious sailplane to fly, after - hopefully - mastering the Easy Star, is the Easy Glider. But, be prepared to spend2-3 times the money!
Or....clip the Easy Star's wingtips, add ailerons and a brushless inrunner, and four-channel radio....
The major problem I see with Nitro Planes, is the strictlydot-com business model. I, literally, found it easier to reach their employees throughsocial networks, rather than a traditional business channel, like telephones and e-mail. ????
The company survived a change in management, and promised better customer service with the new management, but the people who actually do the work, are still young and inexperienced.
And, obviously, so are you .... keep flying, and after you master a primary trainer - then and only then -decide if you like this hobby for the longhaul.
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ORIGINAL: kwblake
OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
OK. Went and talked to the friend. Changed my mind Gary. I think some of us need a break from winter, so, chill a bit, and enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoLjho I think I got ya beat with this one. [img][/img]
Wow. Those legs go all the way up. Last time I saw Sarah Connor, the Terminator was chasing her.
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OztGJhiBQTo
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Learn how to build n repair. You'll always crash. I bring a garbage bag with me flying. When I crash I put it all in the bag, n spread it out at home to see if I can fix it. AFTER th emotions are subsided. If the foam is not smashed into lil pieces it's easy to repair.
Maybe this place can help with a new wing. https://www.flyingfoam.com/
Good luck!
Maybe this place can help with a new wing. https://www.flyingfoam.com/
Good luck!
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Hey Sarg,
How did you get from expecting ''good service, customer satisfaction, and parts support ''to lack of responsibility for a crash? BTW, I'll put my flying skills against your any day.
Let me know what dimension you're from so I can visit the land of ''no crash''.
Hey Sarg,
How did you get from expecting ''good service, customer satisfaction, and parts support ''to lack of responsibility for a crash? BTW, I'll put my flying skills against your any day.
Let me know what dimension you're from so I can visit the land of ''no crash''.
Crashes happen and when they do I'm skilled enough to fix it. Or better yet I will give the crashed plane to some newbie flyer like the op, then go buy a new plane.
I hope your flying skills are better than your grammar.
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sorry your having ahard time. however, nitroplanes doesnt manufacture the plane and most likely their supplier doesnt offer them parts. you buy cheap chinese crap your gonna get crap. best of luck to you.
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Hey R Pilot,
I agree with you. Any company that doesn't support its own products ain't worth a sqawt. The idea that ''they just ship it'' does not absolve them of the responsibility of spare parts nor any warning thereof; that's pure ''bull'' . They are a hobby company; act like it and learn the meaning of ''customer satisfaction'' and fair trade. We all crash sooner or later and need parts. Should not it be logical to go to the place of purchase?
I'm glad you took the time to post your experience and hopefully a newb won't fall into the same Chinese trap.
These moron deserve to be bad mouthed, maybe even subjected to the Chinese water torture. Buy from American companies and leave the fools to Nitroplanes....
Hey R Pilot,
I agree with you. Any company that doesn't support its own products ain't worth a sqawt. The idea that ''they just ship it'' does not absolve them of the responsibility of spare parts nor any warning thereof; that's pure ''bull'' . They are a hobby company; act like it and learn the meaning of ''customer satisfaction'' and fair trade. We all crash sooner or later and need parts. Should not it be logical to go to the place of purchase?
I'm glad you took the time to post your experience and hopefully a newb won't fall into the same Chinese trap.
These moron deserve to be bad mouthed, maybe even subjected to the Chinese water torture. Buy from American companies and leave the fools to Nitroplanes....