Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
02-17-2013, 06:25 PM
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RE: Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
Larger RC turbines as a whole are overpriced, most of the cost in making turbines is the inconel fan, it takes the same amount of effort to sonically balance/x-ray a 80N turbine fan as it does a 200N. Inconel 718 is less than $10/lb
There is going to be a minimum cost to create a turbine, weather is a small 20N or a 160N, if you set a base price of say $1,500.00 than you should be able to make a 60N for $1500, or a 200N for about $2,000.00
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
In the last couple of years this has happened to Electrics and is currently happening to giant scale gas. 5-6 years ago a 3s 2100 10c discharge battery from thunder power would cost you $75.00, now a 35c Flightmax or Gen Ace battery is $15.00, same for brushless motors. 6 Years ago, if you wanted to fly Gas it was DA, or 3w, a DA-50 sold for $650.00, now you can get a DLE-55 for $315.00 and it is as reliable and produces more power, heck there are even cheaper versions coming out like the JC evo engine which are under $200.00
Its just an evolution, but eventually turbines will be a dime a dozen and be half or even less than half of what we pay today.
There is going to be a minimum cost to create a turbine, weather is a small 20N or a 160N, if you set a base price of say $1,500.00 than you should be able to make a 60N for $1500, or a 200N for about $2,000.00
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
In the last couple of years this has happened to Electrics and is currently happening to giant scale gas. 5-6 years ago a 3s 2100 10c discharge battery from thunder power would cost you $75.00, now a 35c Flightmax or Gen Ace battery is $15.00, same for brushless motors. 6 Years ago, if you wanted to fly Gas it was DA, or 3w, a DA-50 sold for $650.00, now you can get a DLE-55 for $315.00 and it is as reliable and produces more power, heck there are even cheaper versions coming out like the JC evo engine which are under $200.00
Its just an evolution, but eventually turbines will be a dime a dozen and be half or even less than half of what we pay today.
02-17-2013, 08:20 PM
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RE: Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
I'm thumbing through my new RCJI "Turbine Test Special". There is a boat load of performance comparisons and new turbine tests. Hum, I'm not seeing any mention of JJ turbines
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02-17-2013, 09:22 PM
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RE: Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
ORIGINAL: DiscoWings
Larger RC turbines as a whole are overpriced, most of the cost in making turbines is the inconel fan, it takes the same amount of effort to sonically balance/x-ray a 80N turbine fan as it does a 200N. Inconel 718 is less than $10/lb
There is going to be a minimum cost to create a turbine, weather is a small 20N or a 160N, if you set a base price of say $1,500.00 than you should be able to make a 60N for $1500, or a 200N for about $2,000.00
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
In the last couple of years this has happened to Electrics and is currently happening to giant scale gas. 5-6 years ago a 3s 2100 10c discharge battery from thunder power would cost you $75.00, now a 35c Flightmax or Gen Ace battery is $15.00, same for brushless motors. 6 Years ago, if you wanted to fly Gas it was DA, or 3w, a DA-50 sold for $650.00, now you can get a DLE-55 for $315.00 and it is as reliable and produces more power, heck there are even cheaper versions coming out like the JC evo engine which are under $200.00
Its just an evolution, but eventually turbines will be a dime a dozen and be half or even less than half of what we pay today.
Larger RC turbines as a whole are overpriced, most of the cost in making turbines is the inconel fan, it takes the same amount of effort to sonically balance/x-ray a 80N turbine fan as it does a 200N. Inconel 718 is less than $10/lb
There is going to be a minimum cost to create a turbine, weather is a small 20N or a 160N, if you set a base price of say $1,500.00 than you should be able to make a 60N for $1500, or a 200N for about $2,000.00
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
In the last couple of years this has happened to Electrics and is currently happening to giant scale gas. 5-6 years ago a 3s 2100 10c discharge battery from thunder power would cost you $75.00, now a 35c Flightmax or Gen Ace battery is $15.00, same for brushless motors. 6 Years ago, if you wanted to fly Gas it was DA, or 3w, a DA-50 sold for $650.00, now you can get a DLE-55 for $315.00 and it is as reliable and produces more power, heck there are even cheaper versions coming out like the JC evo engine which are under $200.00
Its just an evolution, but eventually turbines will be a dime a dozen and be half or even less than half of what we pay today.
Why every new person to turbines brings the same argument???
Been flying turbines for almost 20 years, and the prices have not change dramatically. There have been at certain points in time, more turbine manufacturers than glow engines
It is all in the numbers. Have you checked out the serial number in your turbines? they are in the hundreds or low 1000's. Inconel might be free, but the guy that sells 500 turbines at year needs to pay salaries, send kids to school, eat, pay for a house, etc etc....
Try to sustain your family and that of your employees selling 500 units a year of whatever product you want. heck make it 1000, and you see what you need to charge for each. Even if raw materials are free
So... unless turbines reach the popularity of helicopters, forget it.. prices will be what they are.
02-17-2013, 09:45 PM
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RE: Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
ORIGINAL: DiscoWings
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
Yes, as more people start getting to into the once considered elite sector of RC dominated by snobs and know-it-alls who sit on there high horse and poop rose petals; the demand will be met with cheaper and reliable alternatives.
02-17-2013, 09:55 PM
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RE: Why do people buy JJ Turbines?
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