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Old 03-20-2013, 12:09 AM
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kjel,
May I ask you what brand/maker for your main wheels did you go with and also what is the size? Is it the scale wheel from Sunshine Modell?. You have a very detailed Swiss 109 there, excellent job!
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Hi Louis,

The wheels are 5,5" Glennis wheels. Very nice wheels although expensive and they took 9 months to arrive.

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Hi Kjel,
Thank you for that information! I definately have heard, those Glennis wheels are not cheap and they do take a long time to get, but it does look spot on in terms of detail. Can you show us the retract bay? I have read in an earlier post that others were finding difficulty clearing the spar when going over 5 inch diameter on this model. Did running these 5.5 inch Glennis involve much modifying in the retract bay? When it comes to 109's, I feel the correct sized wheel with details does alot to capture that genuine 109 look.
Thanks again!
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96TT,

I understand were N8622t is coming from in terms of accessablility, but that does look SO much better!!!! congrats mate. Me still wantie one of these but I just sold the brand new DLE 55 I has sitting here so I'll have to think twice about it now.. but I love what you guys are doing with this model.

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Hi Louis,

I'll take some pictures this afternoon and explain what I did. I had to do some surgery, but mainly because I moved the gear inward towards a somewhat more scale location. I used the Sierra landinggear which has shorter struts than the origanal ESM gear. This also moves the wheel inwards. This will give you a little bit more room to play with. But I still had to dremel a piece of the spar which is running through the wheel bay away. Also because of the moved position of the landinggear I had to cut away a few ribs. This leaves the topskin of the wheelbay with very little suppurt. To strengthen the topskin I've glassed the inside of the topskin of the wheelbay. Also I've strengthened the spar at the wheelbay with carbontape and epoxy.

greetings kjel
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Kjel,
Thank you and yes I believe narrowing the wheel stance will improve the scale appearance and yes understandable how this can increase clearance for the wheels, stability on rollout maybe another question but if its not significant then maybe it will not change the ground handling too much anyway. I am looking forward to those pictures.
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Hi,

Here are some pictures of my access hatches and wheel well and some other pics. I've cut the firewall from the fuselage and glued the cowling to the fuselage. I've put a few layers of glass inside the cowling to stiffen it up and put a new firewall in it. Basically it is the same setup as the Meister platinum 109's. If it is necessary I can still replace the pull/pull cables although it will be a fiddly job. But I think thats worth it. Indeed juring the build the cockpit hatch was very convinient. I've installed Ty's cockpit and did most of constructive work to the cockpit when it was still a hatch. The last thing I did before I was ready for priming and painting was glueing the hatch to the fuselage.

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one video from me
enjoy!



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foYF5HMfrAc[/youtube]
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Whats with the bikes passing through at the end of the video?
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Moving targets lol

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dgiatr...tell us about hour airplane. motor,prop,retracts etc. looks very nice!
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dgiatr, please, give advice on the spinner used.

Very nice flight.

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More video of the 109;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEaHxSFZcs

And for those who wants to see the airfield from above;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=KZvw0GkMUXU
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hi, thank you veru much for your kind words!
so i have on it :
eme 60cc 2 stroke
22x8 3blade fiala which i will change to 23x8 3blade fiala after some breaking in
sierra retracts
3 blade spinner from lindinger which i will paint really soon!
4,5'' wheels from esm landing gears pack (have been stolen from another feature project, but i will put something bigger )


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dgiatr, please, give advice on the spinner used.

Very nice flight.

Jesus Cardin
Hi Jesus.
I bought my spinner here

http://bigplanes.nl/contents/nl/d143.html
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another video with painted spinner and 22x10 3 blade fiala prop(plane flies better with that setup but i will finally put 23x8 3blade fiala prop for a more scale look)



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsZzb4_iDlU[/youtube]

i would generally say that esm 50cc planes fly much more better than those 30cc models
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do you have any recommendations for resolving ground looping due to engine pulling force during take off;
do you have any rudder expo or not; whats the rudder and tail wheel travel adjustment;do you have any wheel toe in or toe out;is you tail wheel pull pull system stable-robust enough;
i always start accelerating very gradually pulling the tail down using a good amount of elevator but i alwyas feel that the tail is very sensitive.....
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Half flaps on take off my friend....works every time. BTY mine has a DA 85 in it with a tremendous amount of torque and with flaps on take off she tracks as sweet as can be. Hope this helps you as it has helped me
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http://youtu.be/leTN12teAHM
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These two videos are out of sequence and I did not use flaps on take off till later flights as you can tell in the first flight video
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Half flaps on take off my friend....works every time. BTY mine has a DA 85 in it with a tremendous amount of torque and with flaps on take off she tracks as sweet as can be. Hope this helps you as it has helped me
having 85 cc and half flaps during take off dont you have any danger of lifting too soon and stalling;
whats the reason of using half flaps; does the tail lift up sooner so it stops being too sensitive to ground looping;
thanks!
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Half flaps on take off my friend....works every time. BTY mine has a DA 85 in it with a tremendous amount of torque and with flaps on take off she tracks as sweet as can be. Hope this helps you as it has helped me
having 85 cc and half flaps during take off dont you have any danger of lifting too soon and stalling;
whats the reason of using half flaps; does the tail lift up sooner so it stops being too sensitive to ground looping;
thanks!
The key is to get the tail off the ground half flaps worked well for me you might try a little less and adjust as you need
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I tried a lot of stuff that people that don't have the airplane said to do.....none of it worked, but the flaps work great
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I tried a lot of stuff that people that don't have the airplane said to do.....none of it worked, but the flaps work great
ok thank you very much for your advise, i will try it as soon as possible!!!!!....probably tomorow......


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