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Old 11-29-2011, 04:12 PM
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Joe,
Standard procedure for any ARF I have bought is to spend some hours and go over most of visable glue joints with Poly-Zap (it is little flexible) and where needed30 min epoxy glue. On my Sebart Wind S 50E I also did this with the engine mount andYou just confirms how important it is to do that. Only problem I had withmy Wind S 50E is the tail gear pin that goes into the ruddercame loose on ground beforelast flight I did 2 weeks ago but I had expected that to happen sooner or later (I was surprised it stayed in place so long as it did). I new Suillivan tail gear with spring to absorb bumps etc will be mounted now instead.

stmdk,
Sorry to hear about the chrash, hope Your new Wind S 50E will last long with another ESC. So far my Castle Creations Phoenix ICE 100 has worked fine.

/Bo
Old 12-28-2011, 03:02 PM
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Hi,

I have mounted a Sullivan Tail wheel bracket now on my Wind S50 E (Sullivan part no S860 for 5-12 lbs / 2-5 kg load) to replace the original Sebart tail wheel bracket that came loose at last flight.
I used the stiff spring (there is also a soft spring) and glued a carbon tube in the rudder to hold the spring bend (with a drip of epoxy in the carbon tube). Seems to be rather long life solution so it will probably last the life of my model.
I also changed to little bigger main wheels, Du-Bro 2 1/2 inch Super Lite wheels (9.7 gram each, part no 250SL).
All snow we had has melted hereso if weather will be better (it has been very windy lately) maybe I will do som flying in the weekend with my Wind S50 E. If it is very cold I will use my "Radiowarm" with "Hot Rox" inside to keep my hands warm.

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Old 12-30-2011, 11:33 PM
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:39 AM
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Hi,
I was out flying on ice today with my Wind S 50E. It was a beautiful calm day and I flew about 15 flights before my 80 Ah marine battery was drained from charging my LiPo's.
Zero problem with my new tailwheel that I mounted (see post above). When You are out there on the ice and it is silence You hear ice break around You and even some birds had started to sing a little after the winter (that still is here but start to fade out). The moon and the sun was up at the same time. About 0 deg Celsius out, no wind and sunshine, just fly and exist - it feels good. Some photos from todays flying below, just managed to get a few shoot's while flying (difficult to take photos and at the same time fly).

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Old 03-03-2012, 10:31 AM
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great pics Bem
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I have a Miss WInd 50e, which is nearing completion, its taken for ever[:-] Guess I'm just very slow...........
I have a JR 2.4 9303, and I can't see how to connect the aileron servos up, so that I will have trim on all four servos. I also have a 10x, with a 2.4 conversion. I seem to recall that some of the mixes let you include the trim.
If the worst comes to the worst I guess I could buy a matchbox. To do this seems like a failure.
Can anyone offer the programming for 4 servos on the 9303, or alternatively the 10x?
Thanks in advance,
Nick Marson
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Hi,
I was out flying my Wind S 50E today also. Drained two 80 Ah marine batteries for charging and two transmitter battery packs (and I had to charge one TX pack about 1 hour on the ice). I lost track how many flights I made today. Discovered that one of my transmitter battery packs had a steep discharge curve at about 40% since just when I was about to make one take off and battery indicator showed 40% left the transmitter sound alarm came on for low battery level and indicator was down to under 20%. I taxied back quick as a weasel. That original 14MZ Li-Ion battery pack is going to recycle bin now.
It was kind of heavy to carry all the stuff back from ice to the car about 400-500 meter with one 80 Ah battery in my backpack and one in my hand and the plane in the other hand. My arms felt like spagetti.
Anyway it was a fine day with sunshine but slightly cold and slight wind but in the afternoon it calmed down. It was little hard to taxi and stear the plane on the ice in the wind, the rudder and stearable tailwheel did not bite enough, I tried after one landing to stear back to me and had to make a wide circle on rather high throttle and full rudder to get the plane in my direction.

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Old 03-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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Hi,



Beautiful day today to fly, about 20 flights with my Sebart Wind S 50E.
Two pictures from today below.



I also was guided by an SAAB Viggen jet (former Swedish Airforce fighter)
simulator instructor today at one Viggen simulator that is stationed at the
airfield I fly RC at most of the time. It is a simulator that was used to train the Viggen
fighter pilots. It was really nice to see the simulator and I was surprised the cockpit
was so small, and instruments and knobs etc allover the place.
He said the Viggen was very easy to fly.
The sim instructorwas a former Airforce pilot that had been flying SAAB Tunnan (Flying barrel)
fighter jet but had not flew Viggen in the air (Viggen was after his active duty).



It is basically same simulator as this one that I was introduced to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm4g6CFDtV0



Full scale Viggen example movie from time it was in active duty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXuGw41kWTc
(speech in Swedish but not needed to understand, nice video anyway)



First serialno 001, Sept 1971, of Viggen did not last long
when shooting a movie of Viggen showing it's short landing
capabilities... but Viggen was a success story despite of this accident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGxRNuL6lfg



Last flight of Viggen at one of the Wings that had them, painted
red...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bn1Tuber2Q



And of course we have RC jet Viggen here in Sweden like this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBdcsaWva4c



In May 5 2012 at an airshow here in Sweden one civil registered Viggen (registered as SE-DXN) will fly again
in original bare metal(no green camouflage colorthey had later) by Swedish Air Force Historic Flight.
Edit: ViggenSE-DXNflewtoday Tuesday March 27 at F7 Wing whereSwedish Air Force Historic Flight is stationed.
That was the first Viggen to be in the air since 2007 that was last time a Viggen flew.
Picture after the flight with the pilot and ground personnel drinking champagne to celebrate the successful flight:
http://twitter.com/#!/SwAFHF/status/.../photo/1/large
Edit 2: here it flies! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol8JEO4iAt4

I think I will travel to that airshow in May to see Viggen fly again.


It has been a long day with flying, time to go to bed.



/Bo

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Old 04-04-2012, 12:37 PM
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Finally the plane has made his test flight today, now its time to start the real work... fine tunig
here are some pics....
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:20 AM
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stmdk,

Great to see You have another new Wind S 50E. It is probably hard to find anything that fly much bettterin it's class. And it's appearance is hard to beat also, I like it alot. So You got the blue-red-white this time. Some say the yellow-red-black You had before is slighly easier to see in the air - do You thinks so also?

/Bo

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stmdk,

Great to see You have another new Wind S 50E. It is probably hard to find anything that fly much bettter in it's class. And it's appearance is hard to beat also, I like it alot. So You got the blue-red-white this time. Some say the yellow-red-black You had before is slighly easier to see in the air - do You thinks so also?

/Bo

hi bem
thanks for the greetings, as for now i just had 3 flights before sundown so i can't say for now i'll update later.
btw, how much Watt,RPM,PROP you got with your setup?

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stmdk,

My setup: Hacker A50-16 S V2, Castle Phoenix ICE 100 (with BEC in use), APC Thin electric 17x10 prop, DesirePower V8 35C 6 cell 5200 mAh LiPo.
Castle Creation Datalog I had saved on my disk: 12 sessions with total duration of 5550 seconds = 92.5 minutes, average 7.7 min per session/flight (I usually fly max 8 min in summer and 7 min in winter on above setup and have at least 20% left in battery after a flight).

Picture 1: Celcius as unit for temp
Picture 2: Fahrenheit as unit for temp

Notice max watt according to log is 1669 watt andexceed what this Hacker motor is rated for, 1250 watt max (15 sec).
But I do not run full throttle all the time, usually at start and some verticals, I usually throttle down two dents in level flight on the throttle stick, and as You can see average watt is just 285 watt.
Rest of values is not any problem.
I have a couple of hundred flights with this setup, in hot summer temp (25-30 deg. celsius) and cold winter temp (about down to minus 15 deg. celsius). So far no problem. I will continue with this setup, maybe change to some carbon prop when 17x10 is avaliable (I have not seen any "thin" electric 17x10 carbon prop yet).

/Bo
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:43 AM
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Default RE: New Sebart Wind 50E

thanks a lot Bem,
actually i'm flying with the ICE100+Rx 2s Lipo and 16x10 APC and around 50 Amp with a 6 cell.
but i have the feeling that my plane is LACKING of power and very slow on Loop so i thought to change to a 16x12 APC,
but after reading your result i think i will try the 17x10.

what you think?
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Hi,

The Castle Phoenix ICE 100 ESC can handle the amp and temp you will get at full throttle with APC Thin Electric 17x10E.
I get max 70 amp and max 50 deg Celsius (in summer) with my setup with that prop att full throttle.

The question is if Your motor will handle the watts at full throttle with this prop.
What motor do You use now?
Hopefully it can handle the watts you will get at full throttle, my Hacker A50-16S V2 14 pole that is rated for max 1250 watt can handle (so far) the 1669 watt I get at full throttle.

Just activate the log in the ICE 100ESCwiththe CastleLink programvia Castle USB cable.Then fly anddownload the data to your computer via Castle USB cable and have a look in CastleLink Graph Viewer what You get.
I'm sure the motor will cope with one testflight when You test this.
I use http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...k_connect.htmland USB Cable,this:
http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/cast...0-p-11004.htmland this
http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/cast...xl-p-8054.html

I use firmware 3.27 in my ICE 100 ESC, had it since last summer and works fine(newer 4.01 beta is out but I do not dare to use it considering the major bugs that was dicovered in 4.00 and who knows what came over in 4.01 that is not sorted out yet).

/Bo
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:50 AM
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hi
i got the 3.5.20 firmware, i didnt know that there were some bugs with the new one... anyway i will try what you say and update ASP.

thanks Bem
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Hi stmdk,

Latest Castle Link program, that contain various firmware versions to download to ESC, is V3.51.05.
If You install that program instead of 3.5.20 Youwill be able to download latest 4.01 beta firmware to Your ESC if You want - butI use 3.27firmwaresince the 4.01 is still beta.
I havelatest Castle Link program V3.51.05 installed on my computer (but have not installed latest firmware in my ESC from that program that it contain, and previous firmware versions). "Current Firmw" on the Software tab tell what firmware version is installed in YourCastle ESC.

/Bo
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Hi,

Made about 10 flights today with my Wind S 50E. It was windy but that is not muchof a problem with this plane.
It was an autogyro at the field today, nice thing to see and it flew great. I was a two seater, side by side.
I think it was a Xenon 2 autogyro.

One in our club had a new machine out for maiden flight today. Just before he was about to taxi out for takeoff, and I was just standing beside him, he checked the rudder OK, elevator OK, aileron OK - but wait I said the aileron move not in right direction. He agreed after some seconds. I guess that maiden would have been just one and only flightwith this plane unless that had not beendiscovered. After reversing the aileron servo direction in transmitter settings the plane came up in the air and flew fine.

They have built twowind power installationsfrom China near the flying fields also, 147 meter (482 feet) high at rotorblade top position over the ground - they can be seen in the horizon in picture below. It is not pleasing to the eyes at all to see the wings/propsrotate but I guess it is a matter to get used to it. But they ruin the landcape picture totally. They are the two largest wind power installations in our country todayestimated to produce 15 miljon kWh per year (electricity for about 3000 households).

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Hi,
Was out after work today and made about 10 flights with my Wind S 50E at oneof fields I fly at. It was rather cold and windy. I have mounted larger wheels now to make it easier on rough grass. It is Mpi light foam wheels with aluminium hub 2.75 inch (70 mm), AW275. See image below. Worked fine.
At 20.30 I made the last flight and then went home.

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Old 07-16-2012, 08:06 AM
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Hi Guys

Just a quick hello and thanks to everyone for the great information contained in this thread on the beautiful Wind 50E. I'm flying the smaller Angel S 30E at the moment but hope to buy the Wind later in the year. The photos have been especially helpful....special thanks to bem.
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Hi,
Me and my Wind S 50E participated in Swedish Championship 2012 F3A and Nordic last weekend. I was competing in class Nordic that use schedule P-13 as base but no snap rolls and easier rolls in some manoeuvres, spins not opposite directions etc. Nordic class schedule is very similar to Advanced Schedule A-12. Anyway, most people use 2 x 2 M planes but it is no problem to use a smaler plane like Wind S50 E since it can fly the Nordic Schedule OK. It was rather windy one of the two days when competing and my smaller Wind S 50E was bouncing aroundsome morein the wind then the larger 2 x 2 M planes. It was very fun to participate. Two pictures from the flight line below where my Wind S 50E can be seen and most of the other machines (some is missingin the pictures).

/Bo
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I was wondering who is using the ESC brake function on their Wind S50e?

Is it necessary to enable the brake, or in other words; how does the plane accelarate in downlines when the brake is disabled?

I have a Castle ICE 100 ESC with integrated BEC.
Would like to know if it can handle a 40% brake setting for example without affecting the BEC output voltage.

I am using a Futaba Fasst receiver and I know they don't like voltage drops.
 
Would be interesting to see your set-ups / break settings.
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Default RE: New Sebart Wind 50E

Let me rephrase the question to all those Wind S50E / ICE 100 users out there:



 

Can I still rely on the ICE 100 BEC circuit when I enable the brake option to let’s say 30-40%?



 

Or am I pushing my luck here and do I need to look at using a separate RX battery pack?



 

I would be grateful for any information which will help me decide between these two options.

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Default RE: New Sebart Wind 50E

I have my brake set to 30% on my ice 100 with an APC 16x12 and haven't had any problems. It doesn't speed up too much on the down lines.
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Let me rephrase the question to all those Wind S50E / ICE 100 users out there:



Can I still rely on the ICE 100 BEC circuit when I enable the brake option to let’s say 30-40%?



Or am I pushing my luck here and do I need to look at using a separate RX battery pack?



I would be grateful for any information which will help me decide between these two options.

1. why do you think that when you use the brake you can risk a voltage droping?
2. as for my setup, i use a separate Rx bat and using around 40% brake..

hope it helped
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Default RE: New Sebart Wind 50E

Thank you both for sharing this information, appreciate your feedback.

1. why do you think that when you use the brake you can risk a voltage droping?
As far as I understand you put more load on the ESC when you enable the brake function. Just wondered if the BEC's output voltage would remain stable while the ESC is braking.



A possible voltage drop is just an assumption, therefore I would like to hear your experience.

Using a 17x10 prop by the way.



 



 

2. as for my setup, i use a separate Rx bat and using around 40% brake..



 

OK. Do you have a specific reason for using a separate RX pack on your  Wind S50e?

As far as I can see you can do without when using the ICE 100. Just curious...



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