Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
04-17-2013, 10:55 AM
#579
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: jetpilot
Please share with us!
why would there be any threats?
we are trying to help these guys prevent a possible crash.
Scott
ORIGINAL: ravill
Wow, I was just threatened by wap4life on pm. Sad, really.
Wow, I was just threatened by wap4life on pm. Sad, really.
Please share with us!
why would there be any threats?
we are trying to help these guys prevent a possible crash.
Scott
04-17-2013, 11:10 AM
#580
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: dubd
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
This is such Bullsh*t. Classless act by a unreputable company.
Take note people. They could care less!!
Dont send another penny their way! You will be screwed!
Scott
04-17-2013, 11:22 AM
#583
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
quote:
ORIGINAL: siclick33
So sorry to hear that.
I posted this earlier but this is on the other build thread (my bold):
quote:
Wap4life: There are a few changes from my first one (RIP). The biggest change is the elevator is direct drive. The other changes are the wood pieces over the honeycomb area ex. in the tail part where you screw in the servo.
It would be interesting if Wap4life could describe (or show a picture) of this change. Had they already changed their construction method prior to your incident?
WAP's F-14 was made after mine. I asked James at FEJ if my older mechanism was okay given they changed it. He said it was.
ORIGINAL: siclick33
So sorry to hear that.
I posted this earlier but this is on the other build thread (my bold):
quote:
Wap4life: There are a few changes from my first one (RIP). The biggest change is the elevator is direct drive. The other changes are the wood pieces over the honeycomb area ex. in the tail part where you screw in the servo.
It would be interesting if Wap4life could describe (or show a picture) of this change. Had they already changed their construction method prior to your incident?
WAP's F-14 was made after mine. I asked James at FEJ if my older mechanism was okay given they changed it. He said it was.
dubd,
Before I say what I am about to say, I want to preempt it by saying that I have no idea what is going on at FEJ, but this is the thought process in my head. I may be way off the mark but:
Wap4life mentions that FEJ have added wood pieces over the honeycomb in the newer models. This new model was delivered to him before yours crashed so this change in build must have occurred before. Why would they do this? Were they already concerned about that honeycomb bulkhead? Even worse, did they already know that there was a problem here before yours crashed, but decided not to tell anyone? This may be completely wide of the mark and it might just be a QC issue or a change imposed by the new stab mechanism, but it would be interesting to see what the new former looks like, and even more interesting to know why they felt the need to change it.
04-17-2013, 11:44 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: dubd
I like it. I got a quote at wristbandconnection.com. 100 wristbands fot $89.
ORIGINAL: rcjets_63
Wow, though I can't say that I'm surprised.
Andy's idea is looking better all the time.
Regards,
Jim
ORIGINAL: dubd
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
Andy's idea is looking better all the time.
Regards,
Jim
.Get them Dantley and I'll pay for them.
BTW get this going on the rcjetaddiction site also.
04-17-2013, 11:49 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
Ravill- This is getting out of hand. Please tell the entire truth! You threaten me first.
You posted that you wanted to slap me. the moderator took it off the thread. I pm u and told u that i took it as a joke and i hope dubd get compensated.
You then stated you was going to slap me.
Please tell everyone the entire TRUTH! Don't lie and hide.
You posted that you wanted to slap me. the moderator took it off the thread. I pm u and told u that i took it as a joke and i hope dubd get compensated.
You then stated you was going to slap me.
Please tell everyone the entire TRUTH! Don't lie and hide.
04-17-2013, 11:51 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
WAP & Raf please take your beef to the admins. It doesn't belong here!
WAP, you can be helpful and take your "compensated" message to FEJ. Thx.
WAP, you can be helpful and take your "compensated" message to FEJ. Thx.
04-17-2013, 11:51 AM
#587
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
You could make T-shirts...
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
04-17-2013, 11:53 AM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: Chris Nicastro
You could make T-shirts...
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
You could make T-shirts...
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
04-17-2013, 12:00 PM
#590
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: dubd
And to thank, all I wanted was a replacement airframe of equal value... So, what color t-shirts do you guys want?
ORIGINAL: Chris Nicastro
You could make T-shirts...
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
You could make T-shirts...
http://www.customink.com/
This is type of decision that poor businessmen make. Its called tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. You know in the grand scheme of things all FEJ had to do is pay out, at reduced cost mind you not retail, a new updated F-14 and two engines at a minimum. The response from the jet community would have been praise and applause resulting in continued and possibly increased revenue. So you call it an investment in the future... your companies future and continued existence, or call it R&D, or even marketing, it makes no difference where your CPA finds the line item you just do it if you believe in your company.
Instead now you have a very pissed off and motivated customer who is going to tell everyone and their kids how poorly FEJ treated him on many levels. Now you have a small army of pissed of motivated people who will spread the word all over the world.... THE WORLD.
So its simple, how cheap does one jet kit and couple of turbines look now?
If it was me Id make it right by the one customer and move on, the rest of the dust would settle and Id have the piece of mind and job in the near future.
And to thank, all I wanted was a replacement airframe of equal value... So, what color t-shirts do you guys want?
red or black?
Scott
04-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: siclick33
dubd,
Before I say what I am about to say, I want to preempt it by saying that I have no idea what is going on at FEJ, but this is the thought process in my head. I may be way off the mark but:
Wap4life mentions that FEJ have added wood pieces over the honeycomb in the newer models. This new model was delivered to him before yours crashed so this change in build must have occurred before. Why would they do this? Were they already concerned about that honeycomb bulkhead? Even worse, did they already know that there was a problem here before yours crashed, but decided not to tell anyone? This may be completely wide of the mark and it might just be a QC issue or a change imposed by the new stab mechanism, but it would be interesting to see what the new former looks like, and even more interesting to know why they felt the need to change it.
quote:
ORIGINAL: siclick33
So sorry to hear that.
I posted this earlier but this is on the other build thread (my bold):
quote:
Wap4life: There are a few changes from my first one (RIP). The biggest change is the elevator is direct drive. The other changes are the wood pieces over the honeycomb area ex. in the tail part where you screw in the servo.
It would be interesting if Wap4life could describe (or show a picture) of this change. Had they already changed their construction method prior to your incident?
WAP's F-14 was made after mine. I asked James at FEJ if my older mechanism was okay given they changed it. He said it was.
ORIGINAL: siclick33
So sorry to hear that.
I posted this earlier but this is on the other build thread (my bold):
quote:
Wap4life: There are a few changes from my first one (RIP). The biggest change is the elevator is direct drive. The other changes are the wood pieces over the honeycomb area ex. in the tail part where you screw in the servo.
It would be interesting if Wap4life could describe (or show a picture) of this change. Had they already changed their construction method prior to your incident?
WAP's F-14 was made after mine. I asked James at FEJ if my older mechanism was okay given they changed it. He said it was.
dubd,
Before I say what I am about to say, I want to preempt it by saying that I have no idea what is going on at FEJ, but this is the thought process in my head. I may be way off the mark but:
Wap4life mentions that FEJ have added wood pieces over the honeycomb in the newer models. This new model was delivered to him before yours crashed so this change in build must have occurred before. Why would they do this? Were they already concerned about that honeycomb bulkhead? Even worse, did they already know that there was a problem here before yours crashed, but decided not to tell anyone? This may be completely wide of the mark and it might just be a QC issue or a change imposed by the new stab mechanism, but it would be interesting to see what the new former looks like, and even more interesting to know why they felt the need to change it.
04-17-2013, 12:09 PM
#593
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: Wap4life
Ravill- This is getting out of hand. Please tell the entire truth! You threaten me first.
You posted that you wanted to slap me. the moderator took it off the thread. I pm u and told u that i took it as a joke and i hope dubd get compensated.
You then stated you was going to slap me.
Please tell everyone the entire TRUTH! Don't lie and hide.
Ravill- This is getting out of hand. Please tell the entire truth! You threaten me first.
You posted that you wanted to slap me. the moderator took it off the thread. I pm u and told u that i took it as a joke and i hope dubd get compensated.
You then stated you was going to slap me.
Please tell everyone the entire TRUTH! Don't lie and hide.
Back to our scheduled program!
04-17-2013, 12:11 PM
#594
RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
ORIGINAL: Reinol
.Get them Dantley and I'll pay for them.
BTW get this going on the rcjetaddiction site also.
ORIGINAL: dubd
I like it. I got a quote at wristbandconnection.com. 100 wristbands fot $89.
ORIGINAL: rcjets_63
Wow, though I can't say that I'm surprised.
Andy's idea is looking better all the time.
Regards,
Jim
ORIGINAL: dubd
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
UPDATE
I got an email from James at Fly Eagle this morning saying the factory will do nothing.
Andy's idea is looking better all the time.
Regards,
Jim
.Get them Dantley and I'll pay for them.
BTW get this going on the rcjetaddiction site also.
Rei, very generous of you; I'll gladly pay for mine
Dantley, make my shirt red please. Size XL. Let me know how much $ please.
See you at Top Gun!
Regards,
Jim
04-17-2013, 12:27 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
I said it before and I'll say it again. The writing on the wall has been there a long time. I'm sure many will remember when we designed the liberty, the entire airplane was designed, and completely drawn for fej in cad by an aircraft engineer. The files we sent to fej and they still did not use them. They made changes to the airplane without telling us, and in the end the airplane I received required extensive modification before I was comfortable with flying our selling it. Fej did not care about my findings nor did they change anything. They also used my personal drawings and color schemes on their website without permission. This was my design and in the end I was given a discounted jet, didn't really seem fair but whatever, the fact that they then ignored my input is when I gave upany hopeof fej ever being reputable. They are crooks and will never care about their customers. Even if they were to improve the f14 I guarantee the next jet they do will have the same issues.
04-17-2013, 12:49 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
I've read through this entire thread and I honestly can't believe FEJ is this....all right I'll say it STUPID!!! They had a very small hole for which to dig out of by doing Dantley right and this is now gotten way out of hand. They now have a huge pit to try and get out of, not to mention the numerous people they have lost as potential customers. If they ever want this to go away they need to provide Dantley with a new airframe and two engines immediately. How many potential customers are they willing to lose over this??? To the point we are now talking about wearing ribbons, arm bands and t-shirts in protest!!! How can a company let this get so out of control? The inconceivable offer to discount an airframe to sweep this issue under the rug is still unbelievable to me!! FEJ you're destroying yourself with this attitude. Again, how long will you let your business spiral out of control before you fix this issue?? Its getting almost comical to see this company destroy itself right in front of us.
04-17-2013, 01:06 PM
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RE: Fly Eagle Jet F-14 Crash (video)
Let's make a Page 24 summary on what is expected from FEJ at this time:
1. Compensate Dantley and anyone else who has lost an airframe lately due to workmanship or design error
2. Stop production and make changes to existing models still on location at FEJ
3. Make recommendations to existing owners, and provide parts as necessary to make any required changes, or offer to accept returns for rework at your expense
4. Offer to buy back delivered airplanes if the owner so desires, or exchange for other model (shipping at your expense)
5. Apologize for being rude and insensitive to your customers, but also apologize to your reps who are feeling the heat right about now
Is this fair?
1. Compensate Dantley and anyone else who has lost an airframe lately due to workmanship or design error
2. Stop production and make changes to existing models still on location at FEJ
3. Make recommendations to existing owners, and provide parts as necessary to make any required changes, or offer to accept returns for rework at your expense
4. Offer to buy back delivered airplanes if the owner so desires, or exchange for other model (shipping at your expense)
5. Apologize for being rude and insensitive to your customers, but also apologize to your reps who are feeling the heat right about now
Is this fair?