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Old 04-26-2013, 02:40 PM
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"Jaja, allow yourself the other quart now, or spare it till.."

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ORIGINAL: Falcon 64

lead as a weight on the right spot won`t be forgotten.
It has a certain poetic ecrivons, but that is so true.
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I know one day, perhaps six months from now, a new attempt on the Tomcat is his. For free. Just wait and see..
And I know lead as a weight on the right spot won`t be forgotten. But both you and the factories didn`t know, so questions why things blew up...it was not the layup & structure.
So keep on, crash goodly, your choice. Everything is a choice.. Smile if it goes down, I said IF it goes down...
Jaja, allow yourself the other quart now, or spare it till..

lol, stop already! We can't understand your translation.

What in the WORLD!!!!!
Old 04-26-2013, 03:52 PM
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it's a miss qoute to a post that the moderator removed from the thread. bully censorship from rcken. he didn't understand the message so he deleted it.
ORIGINAL: smaze17

"Jaja, allow yourself the other quart now, or spare it till.."

??

Old 04-26-2013, 03:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: crashgoodly

it's a miss qoute to a post that the moderator removed from the thread. bully censorship from rcken. he didn't understand the message so he deleted it.
ORIGINAL: smaze17

''Jaja, allow yourself the other quart now, or spare it till..''

??

Well, I don't see how ANYONE could understand it. And I don't agree about Ken being a bully at all. He works with us, not the other way around.

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Old 04-26-2013, 04:06 PM
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lead as a weight on the right spot won`t be forgotten.
It has a certain poetic ecrivons, but that is so true.
Old 04-26-2013, 04:17 PM
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No one is selling their fej jet on RCU this week. Not a single listing. I wonder why.

Could it be that this thread is running fej sales to the ground just as fast as flutter brings down jets?
Old 04-26-2013, 04:35 PM
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Per MAN, Florida Jets:

"The Engineering Excellence award, understandably, went to an impressive 1/7.5 scale Greumman Tomcat from Fly Eagle Jets. The Tomcat, flown by Ali Machinchy, was all decked out in Bounty Hunter colors."

Interesting . . . .
Old 04-26-2013, 04:47 PM
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Per MAN, Florida Jets:

''The Engineering Excellence award, understandably, went to an impressive 1/7.5 scale Greumman Tomcat from Fly Eagle Jets. The Tomcat, flown by Ali Machinchy, was all decked out in Bounty Hunter colors.''

Interesting . . . .
Funny how things can change overnight..
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they just threatened to ban me if i continue my post in the manner that i have. which were no worse then anything i've read on this thread to date. guess i may be to close to angering some sponsors for their liking.
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ORIGINAL: crashgoodly

it's a miss qoute to a post that the moderator removed from the thread. bully censorship from rcken. he didn't understand the message so he deleted it.
ORIGINAL: smaze17

''Jaja, allow yourself the other quart now, or spare it till..''

??

Well, I don't see how ANYONE could understand it. And I don't agree about Ken being a bully at all. He works with us, not the other way around.

S
Old 04-26-2013, 05:30 PM
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This is the first time I am hearing of this and I don't want another Tomcat.
With respect, at this point what exactly_do_you want?
Old 04-26-2013, 06:37 PM
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ORIGINAL: dubd
This is the first time I am hearing of this and I don't want another Tomcat.
With respect, at this point what exactly_do_you want?
I am curious myself, in what you expect for an end result ? I have crashed dozens of jets over 20+ yrs and have never been compensated for any of my losses. Then again I have never bought a Pre-built jet , I have always built my own from kit or scratch.

Tim
Old 04-26-2013, 07:15 PM
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I'd like for them to respond to my emails so we can move forward. Hopefully I'll hear back from them by next week. I want them to be successful.
Old 04-26-2013, 07:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: mr_matt


ORIGINAL: dubd
This is the first time I am hearing of this and I don't want another Tomcat.
With respect, at this point what exactly_do_you want?
I know what D's favorite LP is...

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:49 PM
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ORIGINAL: dubd

Falcon, what are you talking about?
Gunga galunga...gunga- gunga lagunga
Old 04-26-2013, 08:00 PM
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Hi

I also believe in the power of optimism......and the power of Hooked On Phonics....and anti-psychotic drug therepy.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...onkey-in-a-box
Old 04-26-2013, 08:21 PM
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I'd like for them to respond to my emails so we can move forward. Hopefully I'll hear back from them by next week. I want them to be successful.
I think some guys are thinking that certain people are rooting for FEJ's demise which, IMHO, is untrue for the most part anyway. But It is in all our best interests to make sure this hobby does not put ourselves as well as bystanders in danger. I for one would absolutely LOVE an A-7 someday of which FEJ has a nicely sized version. I will be patient, however, to see how things pan out regarding the HC material and hows it's used/reinforced. I too want to see FEJ to be successful but I think they need to be a little more open to suggestions from people who know.

I really feel bad for Lowell in the whole mess. He is a really good guy and I'm sure he feels terrible about your crash dub. I've known him for a long time and he has always been gracious and literally bent over backwards to help a fellow modeler out

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Old 04-26-2013, 09:24 PM
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I really feel bad for Lowell in the whole mess. He is a really good guy and I'm sure he feels terrible about your crash dub. I've known him for a long time and he has always been gracious and literally bent over backwards to help a fellow modeler out
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Here's what I'm rooting for.
" we've figured out that te pivot point is in wrong location
We've figured out honeycomb is no good for former unless sandwiched with ply
We've figured out how to improve aerodynamic balance
We going to go ahead and static balance every flying stab
We are going to update every kit out there with proper updates
We are going to listen to customers
We are going to accept some responsibility
We are going to ask fellow community how we can improve product instead of say everything is ok and no problems
We aren't going to build anymore giant twin aircraft til the saller aircraft are proven
We aren't going to build 8 different sizes of every model and concentrate on having a couple perfect ones.
We won't promise jets in 8 weeks knowing it takes 20 weeks
We aren't going to use your money to build another guys jet
We are going to use more glue
We are going to send photo of internal structure so customer can verify correctly built
We will hire someone for quality control
We will tell our employees what they are building and that it has to fly and be able to fly at 200mph
We are going to test fly each model to find its limits
We are going to limit the number of models we produce so that we can perfect the current ones we have
We are not going to build a new model til our other ones are perfected
We are going to help all the guys out there get there models up to date with updates with all the fixes
We are going to contact Dantley and any guy with blatant design flaw crash and negotiate a settlement of some sorts.

I'm first in line if they can do this.

Just a thought
Scott
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[quote]ORIGINAL: jetpilot

Here's what I'm rooting for.
'' we've figured out that te pivot point is in wrong location
We've figured out honeycomb is no good for former unless sandwiched with ply
We've figured out how to improve aerodynamic balance
We going to go ahead and static balance every flying stab
We are going to update every kit out there with proper updates
We are going to listen to customers
We are going to accept some responsibility
We are going to ask fellow community how we can improve product instead of say everything is ok and no problems
We aren't going to build anymore giant twin aircraft til the saller aircraft are proven
We aren't going to build 8 different sizes of every model and concentrate on having a couple perfect ones.
We won't promise jets in 8 weeks knowing it takes 20 weeks
We aren't going to use your money to build another guys jet
We are going to use more glue
We are going to send photo of internal structure so customer can verify correctly built
We will hire someone for quality control
We will tell our employees what they are building and that it has to fly and be able to fly at 200mph
We are going to test fly each model to find its limits
We are going to limit the number of models we produce so that we can perfect the current ones we have
We are not going to build a new model til our other ones are perfected
We are going to help all the guys out there get there models up to date with updates with all the fixes
We are going to contact Dantley and any guy with blatant design flaw crash and negotiate a settlement of some sorts.

I'm first in line if they can do this.

Just a thought
Scott




And a grammatically perfect unmistakable version of the above in the relevant Chines language/dialect. Ron
Old 04-27-2013, 02:39 AM
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My prediction of a correct pivotpoint is at 35-38% and then balanced static.
The AMA rule about 25 is all wrong, because there is only the aerodynamical aspect in it, and can never be optimal as long as it leaves massbalance out.

The rule should be investigated and adjusted with a correct way of balancing an all flying control surface.
Moving pivotpoint further back and then massbalance it eases the load for the servos, but still keeps the surface stable.
This way we obtain two advantages instead of half way one.. A stable surface that won`t flutter, AND easy operation for the servos.

If you take the wing on the picture out of your car-window, it will flutter, but not if it was balanced static.
Massbalancing allows the pivotpoint to be set even further back, but only if the surface is balanced at that point.

Instead of debating my statement, try it and you will see I`m right.
This is basics! and I find it almost unbelievable that AMA made this rule of a MAC set to 25 % + - 2-3.
It must be changed.
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: Falcon 64

My prediction of a correct pivotpoint is at 35-38% and then balanced static.
The AMA rule about 25 is all wrong, because there is only the aerodynamical aspect in it, and can never be optimal as long as it leaves massbalance out.

The rule should be investigated and adjusted with a correct way of balancing an all flying control surface.
Moving pivotpoint further back and then massbalance it eases the load for the servos, but still keeps the surface stable.
This way we obtain two advantages instead of half way one.. A stable surface that won`t flutter, AND easy operation for the servos.

If you take the wing on the picture out of your car-window, it will flutter, but not if it was balanced static.
Massbalancing allows the pivotpoint to be set even further back, but only if the surface is balanced at that point.

Instead of debating my statement, try it and you will see I`m right.
This is basics! and I find it almost unbelievable that AMA made this rule of a MAC set to 25 % + - 2-3.
It must be changed.
Ok, now you really do need to leave this thread. Since its "the worst ever".
Or you need to prove your statements as "basics" with some OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION, otherwise you are just being a bumbling norwiegan, bc everything you have said has been completely opposite of everything i have learned.

Moving the pivot aft puts it closer to the aerodynamic neutral point. The closer it gets, the less stable it becomes, 34-38% mac could possibly be aft of the aerodynamic neutral point. Once that happens, no amount of static balancing is going to help.
Old 04-27-2013, 03:38 AM
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I have just sendt an email to a Aviation engeneer from Poland wich lives here.
I will present his answer here, wether I`m right or wrong.
Old 04-27-2013, 05:41 AM
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From all the corrections I see here I would have to figure that any future f14s will never crash again.
Old 04-27-2013, 06:33 AM
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Finally.....a use for the block button

Always wanted to try that one hehehe. The thread makes so much more sense now


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