12x dsm2 still using it?
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ORIGINAL: Alex48
Hi Dave
I recently sold my 12X, I really liked it in its day but the direction JR have gone with the aesthetics of their new radios and their unwillingness to provide PowerBox the codes for DMSS format have left me unable to continue to use their systems. I always thought it was limited on the programming front and never understood why you couldn't freely assign any channel to any switch. It made setting up a complex scale jet very frustrating. I brought a DX18 which has made my life much easier on the set up side of things once you get over its inferior plastic feel. I don't own many models and presently only have one jet so I'm lucky I can just chop and change system without incurring much cost. I tend to follow what my customers have which is Spektrum and Futaba this makes my builds easier when I have the appropriate transmitters.
I'm looking forward to JR's next release, I hope its a good one.
Cheers, Alex
Hi Dave
I recently sold my 12X, I really liked it in its day but the direction JR have gone with the aesthetics of their new radios and their unwillingness to provide PowerBox the codes for DMSS format have left me unable to continue to use their systems. I always thought it was limited on the programming front and never understood why you couldn't freely assign any channel to any switch. It made setting up a complex scale jet very frustrating. I brought a DX18 which has made my life much easier on the set up side of things once you get over its inferior plastic feel. I don't own many models and presently only have one jet so I'm lucky I can just chop and change system without incurring much cost. I tend to follow what my customers have which is Spektrum and Futaba this makes my builds easier when I have the appropriate transmitters.
I'm looking forward to JR's next release, I hope its a good one.
Cheers, Alex
Styling is one thing, I wasn't a fan but I like the feel of the XG-11 and I'm used to the look.
Powerbox have the codes...
Limited programming? I have never felt wanting, I have a Cougar with four flaps, smoke, airbrakes, hook. Since I always use the same switch for retracts and flaps, the other controls go on the remaining switches and can assign any of the spare channels to a spare switch in device select.
I don't know anyone who has lost a model to a DSX-12, the DX-18...Mmmm
JR's next radio will cover every gismo anyone can think of...
Dave
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RE: 12x dsm2 still using it?
I'm still using DSM2 technology as well, but with the DSX11, which has been faultless in the last 2 years of use. As Dave says, the styling of the DSX11/XG11 takes getting used to, but it is the most comfortable radio I have ever had, with switches falling naturally to fingertips. The Futaba MZ18 didn't fit my hands as well, but is the first of the recent Futaba radios I have liked the looks of. I'm looking forward to seeing the new JR radio later this year though.
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Still using mine almost everyday and will not replace it until it dies. I did get a Weatronics module and Rx for my 10X from an estate and will try it as I have one and only one plane that needs 14 channels to have every servo on its own channel to make setup easy and adjustable.
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Each to their own, Ive never seen issues with any of the radios but then I don't get out much
Emmerich emailed me yesterday to say they still don't have the codes from JR? Perhaps they got them today, hope so as I have a DMSS model to set up in May and would like to use a Powerbox.
Perhaps I'm in a minority with programming requirements.
Emmerich emailed me yesterday to say they still don't have the codes from JR? Perhaps they got them today, hope so as I have a DMSS model to set up in May and would like to use a Powerbox.
Perhaps I'm in a minority with programming requirements.
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ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
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I was actually reluctant to upgrade my 12X DSM2 to DSMX as a friend told me that all his flap settings got messed up on existing models after the upgrade. Anyone have these problems?
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Dave, don't know why you're considering JR/ Futaba/ or Spek when you already run the best gear available? Weatronic, I'm sure you know that already! Keep going with the 10x/ wea module until the transmitter comes out later this year. I just upgraded my CARF Hawk /12-22R Gyro 3/GPS and the new patch antennae. 4 flawless flights with perfect RF readings. The new patch antennae almost double RF strength vs a standard wire receiver antenna.
Mike
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you'll have to upgrade your 12x to dsmx as well to reap the befits of the X
ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
What are the benefits?
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What are the benefits?
ORIGINAL: warbird_1
you'll have to upgrade your 12x to dsmx as well to reap the befits of the X
ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
I can never keep it straight which is which, my 12X is around 7 years old now I guess, so that makes it DSM2? And the new one is DSMX? I need to buy a couple receivers and want to make sure I get the right ones!
What are the benefits?
Mike
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I believe there is truth in that. I think a lot of it is marketing driven. I still run DSM2, some stuff is using newer DSMX Rx but still DSM2 link. JR11X and 9303 Tx. I am a big fan of the 11X (now upgraded to XG11 software). I used DSM2 at IRCHA in 2011 and there were a lot of helis in the air! I have never had an issue. I have spoken about upgrading from DSM2 to DSMX on two occasions with Horizon Tech support since summer 2011. Both times I heard the same thing. The improvement in performance is difficult to measure, more theoretical than provable. And it was suggested both times that if I am happy with my DSM2 than maybe I should not worry about it...
Now that JR is going with another system I would also consider Futaba if/when I buy another radio. All of the Spectrum/JR equipment I own would be incompatible anyway. As for the DX18, I have programmed both airplanes and helis with it while helping others, but I don't know if Spectrum will ever produce a Tx with the fit, finish, or feel of a higher end JR or Futaba radio...
Disclaimer, I still fly IMAC and a few gliders on an old Futaba 72mHz radio, so I am usually slow to adopt new tech anyway, LOL.
Now that JR is going with another system I would also consider Futaba if/when I buy another radio. All of the Spectrum/JR equipment I own would be incompatible anyway. As for the DX18, I have programmed both airplanes and helis with it while helping others, but I don't know if Spectrum will ever produce a Tx with the fit, finish, or feel of a higher end JR or Futaba radio...
Disclaimer, I still fly IMAC and a few gliders on an old Futaba 72mHz radio, so I am usually slow to adopt new tech anyway, LOL.
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RE: 12x dsm2 still using it?
ORIGINAL: luv2flyrc
Dave, don't know why you're considering JR/ Futaba/ or Spek when you already run the best gear available? Weatronic, I'm sure you know that already! Keep going with the 10x/ wea module until the transmitter comes out later this year. I just upgraded my CARF Hawk /12-22R Gyro 3/GPS and the new patch antennae. 4 flawless flights with perfect RF readings. The new patch antennae almost double RF strength vs a standard wire receiver antenna.
Mike
Dave, don't know why you're considering JR/ Futaba/ or Spek when you already run the best gear available? Weatronic, I'm sure you know that already! Keep going with the 10x/ wea module until the transmitter comes out later this year. I just upgraded my CARF Hawk /12-22R Gyro 3/GPS and the new patch antennae. 4 flawless flights with perfect RF readings. The new patch antennae almost double RF strength vs a standard wire receiver antenna.
Mike
I have not put anything in the plane yet, but I do also have a spare 12-22 gyro 3. I wish Wx would get a transmitter out! (Off topic - I wish I could use the new Jeti Tx that thing is awesome, looks like the new wave of tx like the planned weatronic).
I am also glad to see that everyone still using dsm2 is having continued success. Good information even though we will all take a step at some point.
Dave
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DSM2 and DSMX works fine and your JR12 is one of the best made TXs ever so stick with it, I owned and used a DX12 on DSM2 for years in fact since there day of realise here in the UK.I did not once have a hold or glitch wile flying all types of airframes including several Jets, After hundred's of flights its sticks and gimbals were as good as new when I sold it last year.What was my biggest mistake ever was selling it then buying a DX18 just for the sake of more channels,In the three months using the DX18 I had two jet airframes and two smaller airframes die big time.The DX18 Tx has since been replaced after inspection by Horizon FOC no quibble about two months ago.One of the jet airframes was flown on the JR12 for over a year before dyeing after just two flights with the DX18, All the other airframes were on the same setups and flown lots on the JR12, all failed on the DX18.I feel wit a JR12 every Tx seems to be well made but perhaps with Spectrum TXs its a bit hit and miss? Due to a total lack of confidence in the new DX18 TXs I could not bring myself to use it again.My currant Tx is the JR XG11 bought on a Dave W recommendation, 80+ flights later no more mishaps, JR may be a bit more expensive "£9 for a satellite lead!"But I don't mind too much as its way cheaper than the thousands of pounds in airframes the DX18 cost me.