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ORIGINAL: OldScaleGuy
Great shot..... It is not how high can you fly it is how low can you go?...
ORIGINAL: scooter
my hanger9 how low can you go
my hanger9 how low can you go
and still keep it 3 mistakes high.
Great picture and super flying scooter.
Love the way the Spits shadow shows on the ground.
Andreas
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
For something slightly different...
Spotted on a local modeling forum:
Based on a plan from Aeromodeller March 1987. Built with depron foam, 82 cm span, 56 cm long, electric.
... and it isn't R/C. Control method is visible in the photo if you know what you are looking at. Reportedly, it flies well.
Spotted on a local modeling forum:
Based on a plan from Aeromodeller March 1987. Built with depron foam, 82 cm span, 56 cm long, electric.
... and it isn't R/C. Control method is visible in the photo if you know what you are looking at. Reportedly, it flies well.
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Hi Guys
iam marco from THE netherlands
iam start build THE top flight spitfire
from engine i like to use THE rcgf 15cc
what do you think off this engine
iam marco from THE netherlands
iam start build THE top flight spitfire
from engine i like to use THE rcgf 15cc
what do you think off this engine
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
"For something slightly different...
Spotted on a local modeling forum:
Based on a plan from Aeromodeller March 1987. Built with depron foam, 82 cm span, 56 cm long, electric.
... and it isn't R/C. Control method is visible in the photo if you know what you are looking at. Reportedly, it flies well. "
Nice, a Control Line Spitty
Spotted on a local modeling forum:
Based on a plan from Aeromodeller March 1987. Built with depron foam, 82 cm span, 56 cm long, electric.
... and it isn't R/C. Control method is visible in the photo if you know what you are looking at. Reportedly, it flies well. "
Nice, a Control Line Spitty
#2555
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Hi Brothers,
Big Brown just drop off the retracts for the ESM 72.5 Spitfire. The set came from Troy Built Models and they was made for this plane. They are electric and I will let you know the good and or bad with them. From what I have found out on this version, ( this is version #3), they are better. Like I said before, I will report the pro's and con's on these retracts. Now for the servos. I want to have everything in place when I start this build. The Top Flite Spit will soon be going into the paint shop, but with all this good weather we are having, my mind is on flying!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
Big Brown just drop off the retracts for the ESM 72.5 Spitfire. The set came from Troy Built Models and they was made for this plane. They are electric and I will let you know the good and or bad with them. From what I have found out on this version, ( this is version #3), they are better. Like I said before, I will report the pro's and con's on these retracts. Now for the servos. I want to have everything in place when I start this build. The Top Flite Spit will soon be going into the paint shop, but with all this good weather we are having, my mind is on flying!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
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Brother 130 Maiden Flight Report......
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly!
I will have a serious talk with the head mechanic. (myself)
I did not have to add any weight to the nose of the Hangar 9 Spitfire at all
The Saito FA100, Keleo Exhaust and a 2500mah LIFE batterie right behind the
fuel tank brought a slight nose down attitude with the CG being 5 1/4" back from
the leading edge. -> Good
The 3rd run of the used Saito FA100 was music to my ears and boy does it
have power. Largest engine for me sofar was a Evo 46 2 stroke. This 100 is
a beast coupled with the 14 x 7 3 blade prop. When I did the nose of the plane up
full throttle test the engine pretty well held the Spitfire hanging in mid air. -> Good
Checked all flight surfaces and gear for proper operation before taxi -> Good
Take off was real easy advancing throttle to 1/2 and watching the Spitfire increase speed.
I held her down until 60% and she lifted off like there was no tomorrow banking a bit to the left
but that was easy to correct. Full throttle applied and the Spitfire is like a racer.
2 clicks down trim, 1 click right trim can't get too much better than that from scratch -> Good
Landing gear will not come up. Oh, Oh.... I should have left it in the down position, but I wanted
to see my Spitfire with them tucked in. Big mistake! Tried all sorts of rolls, slow downs and jerking
to get them to go up. All stuff that I usually don't do on a maiden. They finally did and I was extatic. Yuh, Huuhh....
Well let me tell you, now they wouldn't come down anymore.
Same flight rigmarole to try to get them down. Only left gear would come down.
I was so frustrated, because I had cycled the landing gear so many times before, that
this should not happen. -> Bad
Long story short, I had to bring it in somehow and hope for the best. Retract the left down gear, cut the engine and
emergency belly land her. A fellow pilot with a lot of experience gave me some tips and by telling me what to
do gave me the courage to "CUT THE ENGINE" It worked out and nothing was broken other than my ego and pride.
Oh and a scuffed leading center bottom air intake. -> Ugly.
My son Kevin video taped it and I am not too happy with his shaking, but I am not sure if I could
take a better vid myself and if he didn't take it then there would be none. So I am glad he did.
Next vid will be with a tripod.
Sorry for the verbal outbrakes in sections, but I do get envolved a bit sometimes.
The video is fairly long, but you know where the fast forward button is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izdJ5L-3JwE
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly!
I will have a serious talk with the head mechanic. (myself)
I did not have to add any weight to the nose of the Hangar 9 Spitfire at all
The Saito FA100, Keleo Exhaust and a 2500mah LIFE batterie right behind the
fuel tank brought a slight nose down attitude with the CG being 5 1/4" back from
the leading edge. -> Good
The 3rd run of the used Saito FA100 was music to my ears and boy does it
have power. Largest engine for me sofar was a Evo 46 2 stroke. This 100 is
a beast coupled with the 14 x 7 3 blade prop. When I did the nose of the plane up
full throttle test the engine pretty well held the Spitfire hanging in mid air. -> Good
Checked all flight surfaces and gear for proper operation before taxi -> Good
Take off was real easy advancing throttle to 1/2 and watching the Spitfire increase speed.
I held her down until 60% and she lifted off like there was no tomorrow banking a bit to the left
but that was easy to correct. Full throttle applied and the Spitfire is like a racer.
2 clicks down trim, 1 click right trim can't get too much better than that from scratch -> Good
Landing gear will not come up. Oh, Oh.... I should have left it in the down position, but I wanted
to see my Spitfire with them tucked in. Big mistake! Tried all sorts of rolls, slow downs and jerking
to get them to go up. All stuff that I usually don't do on a maiden. They finally did and I was extatic. Yuh, Huuhh....
Well let me tell you, now they wouldn't come down anymore.
Same flight rigmarole to try to get them down. Only left gear would come down.
I was so frustrated, because I had cycled the landing gear so many times before, that
this should not happen. -> Bad
Long story short, I had to bring it in somehow and hope for the best. Retract the left down gear, cut the engine and
emergency belly land her. A fellow pilot with a lot of experience gave me some tips and by telling me what to
do gave me the courage to "CUT THE ENGINE" It worked out and nothing was broken other than my ego and pride.
Oh and a scuffed leading center bottom air intake. -> Ugly.
My son Kevin video taped it and I am not too happy with his shaking, but I am not sure if I could
take a better vid myself and if he didn't take it then there would be none. So I am glad he did.
Next vid will be with a tripod.
Sorry for the verbal outbrakes in sections, but I do get envolved a bit sometimes.
The video is fairly long, but you know where the fast forward button is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izdJ5L-3JwE
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
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Andreas, great job getting it on the ground without damage. That's the most important. Retracts are a love/hate thing. Love them when they work, hate them when they don't. Your plane great in the air and a good flyer. Nice field too. Have you found a problem with the landing gear?
#2560
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Andreas;
I just watch your maiden flight and must say you did a text book gear up landing!!!! Now you know why Boeing keep the wheels down on all their new plane maiden flight. The maiden flight was beautiful and you was have a ball. Did you find out what cause your gear not to come down??? You have a sweet flying field too!!! I am glad you did not loose the plane after all the work you put into it!!
Again, congrat on your maiden flight and get her back in the air soon. Thanks for sharing the video. Your son did a good job!!!
Don't worry about the verbal outbreak, we all been there!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
I just watch your maiden flight and must say you did a text book gear up landing!!!! Now you know why Boeing keep the wheels down on all their new plane maiden flight. The maiden flight was beautiful and you was have a ball. Did you find out what cause your gear not to come down??? You have a sweet flying field too!!! I am glad you did not loose the plane after all the work you put into it!!
Again, congrat on your maiden flight and get her back in the air soon. Thanks for sharing the video. Your son did a good job!!!
Don't worry about the verbal outbreak, we all been there!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
That was a nice landing with no gear Any landing you can fly again from is a good landing
Now, I had one of those ARGGGG moments today. I was going to put this 4.2 sachs in my CJM Spitfire. It was recommended to use a moki 2.0 or there abouts. So, I had this ST 3250 and decided to convert it to gas and see how much power it puts out. Saw several youtube vids on the conversion and seems like a good candidate to try. I can get that engine completely inside the cowling. So, I purchased the carb adapter from Lambert and had the carb already. Got that part set up and then made up my mind to convert to a CM6 spark plug. So I purchased the 10 x 1 tap and drill from local parts house and went about drilling out the glow plug hole and tapping to thread size. Looks beautiful and straight as I did it jigged up so every thing stays straight. Then when I tried to screw spark plug in, it wouldn't go. After checking and double checking again, I found the issue. The package the tap came in says 10 mm pitch 1 But, on the tap, it says 10 mm 1.5 pitch ARRRGGGGG!!!! now I got a ruined engine head. contacted local store and told them bout what happened, course I got the, nothing we can do, have to check with mfg. So my gut tells me I got to spend $30 for a new head. ARRGGGGG.
Anyone got a 3250 head out there they want to part with? lol
WBG
Now, I had one of those ARGGGG moments today. I was going to put this 4.2 sachs in my CJM Spitfire. It was recommended to use a moki 2.0 or there abouts. So, I had this ST 3250 and decided to convert it to gas and see how much power it puts out. Saw several youtube vids on the conversion and seems like a good candidate to try. I can get that engine completely inside the cowling. So, I purchased the carb adapter from Lambert and had the carb already. Got that part set up and then made up my mind to convert to a CM6 spark plug. So I purchased the 10 x 1 tap and drill from local parts house and went about drilling out the glow plug hole and tapping to thread size. Looks beautiful and straight as I did it jigged up so every thing stays straight. Then when I tried to screw spark plug in, it wouldn't go. After checking and double checking again, I found the issue. The package the tap came in says 10 mm pitch 1 But, on the tap, it says 10 mm 1.5 pitch ARRRGGGGG!!!! now I got a ruined engine head. contacted local store and told them bout what happened, course I got the, nothing we can do, have to check with mfg. So my gut tells me I got to spend $30 for a new head. ARRGGGGG.
Anyone got a 3250 head out there they want to part with? lol
WBG
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
WBG,
I know that made your day. I hope you find a new head. It do sound like someone screw up and put a 1.5 pitch in the bag that said 1" pitch.
When you get the new head, we want a flight report!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
I know that made your day. I hope you find a new head. It do sound like someone screw up and put a 1.5 pitch in the bag that said 1" pitch.
When you get the new head, we want a flight report!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
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I will post a video when I do. I just have been dragging my feet on putting this 4.2 in cause Im gonna have to cut a sizeable amount of the side out to clear the carb. It will be overpowered some (but better to be overpowered than under) I just had this idea that I could put the whole engine inside with this supertigre. Even if I don't use it in the spit, it will be a motor for another spit
WBG
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Thanks brothers for the kind comments, much appreciated.
Just finished the Mothers Day family get together and will have a look at what
went wrong with the retract setup as soon as I get a chance. I know that the retracts are not binding for sure
and the AR7000 retract servo has enough power to tare the nylon servo horn appart.
I have seen that happening on bindup with my T28.
At least that one flew pretty good the same outing and made me feel somewhat better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eomuA7KI6w
I am curious now.
Will let you know what I come up with.
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
Just finished the Mothers Day family get together and will have a look at what
went wrong with the retract setup as soon as I get a chance. I know that the retracts are not binding for sure
and the AR7000 retract servo has enough power to tare the nylon servo horn appart.
I have seen that happening on bindup with my T28.
At least that one flew pretty good the same outing and made me feel somewhat better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eomuA7KI6w
I am curious now.
Will let you know what I come up with.
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
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ORIGINAL: Flyfast1
To All:
Has anyone looked carefully at the comp-arf Spitfire to assess how scale it is? What's not right about it? Are the built-in details, hatches, panel lines, etc., correct?
-Ed B.
To All:
Has anyone looked carefully at the comp-arf Spitfire to assess how scale it is? What's not right about it? Are the built-in details, hatches, panel lines, etc., correct?
-Ed B.
I'm not sure myself as I don't have one, But I do remember reading in one of the threads that the details seem to be a little bit off scale wise. Kind of a mix between a MkV (or earlier) and a Mk9.
As I said I don't have personal experience but this is what I've read here on RCU.
Casey
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Status report on the Hangar 9 Spitfire retract failure on my maiden flight.
I experienced a retract failure on the maiden flight of my Hangar 9 Spitfire.
I was stumped as to why this might have happened, as during test cycles there was never a problem extending or retracting the landing gears.
Here are my findings after I investigated the cause.
1. These are the factory landing gears that were supplied with the ARF Hangar 9 Spitfire.
2. I have switched the factory landing gear struts with Robart Oleo Struts.
3. There was never any binding of the landing gear anywhere in the gear housings
or in the wheel well.
4. The Robart Oleo struts are quite a bit heavier than the factory Hangar 9 struts.
5. The push rod that goes into the Hangar 9 retract unit is just light weight metal and
seems to be like Aluminum? At least it is very very soft metal that bends just by looking at it.
6. The pushing motion of the push rod extends the retracts outward. I had cycled the landing gears quite a few times while the aircraft was upside down in the cradle, thus having to push all the wheel and robart oleo strut weight upwards.
7. The light weight push rod into the retract assembly did not hold up and bent, therefore binding itself into the casing hole.
I may have to find a way to keep the push rod assembly 100% straight while the pushing action of the servo rod takes place or
I might have to get a better set of retracts, that are up to the necessary weight of the Robart oleo struts or never try to extend the landing gear while the plane is upside down, because with this set up it will bind up again sooner or later.
Any idea on a good set of retracts (mechanical) that are up to the task and fit well into the Hangar 9 Spitty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62OMc...ature=youtu.be
Any idea on a good set of retracts (mechanical) that are up to the task and fit well into the Hangar 9 Spitty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62OMc...ature=youtu.be
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
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ORIGINAL: glazier808
Ed,
I'm not sure myself as I don't have one, But I do remember reading in one of the threads that the details seem to be a little bit off scale wise. Kind of a mix between a MkV (or earlier) and a Mk9.
As I said I don't have personal experience but this is what I've read here on RCU.
Casey
ORIGINAL: Flyfast1
To All:
Has anyone looked carefully at the comp-arf Spitfire to assess how scale it is? What's not right about it? Are the built-in details, hatches, panel lines, etc., correct?
-Ed B.
To All:
Has anyone looked carefully at the comp-arf Spitfire to assess how scale it is? What's not right about it? Are the built-in details, hatches, panel lines, etc., correct?
-Ed B.
I'm not sure myself as I don't have one, But I do remember reading in one of the threads that the details seem to be a little bit off scale wise. Kind of a mix between a MkV (or earlier) and a Mk9.
As I said I don't have personal experience but this is what I've read here on RCU.
Casey
-Ed B.
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7. The light weight push rod into the retract assembly did not hold up and bent, therefore binding itself into the casing hole.
7. The light weight push rod into the retract assembly did not hold up and bent, therefore binding itself into the casing hole.
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I was looking on the net for some replacement retracts for my Hangar 9 Spitfire.
These E-Flite 60-120 size main electric retracts look promissing.
Any actual inflight review of these available?
Andreas
http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...rod_id=EFLG400
These E-Flite 60-120 size main electric retracts look promissing.
Any actual inflight review of these available?
Andreas
http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...rod_id=EFLG400
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ORIGINAL: facia
I was looking on the net for some replacement retracts for my Hangar 9 Spitfire.
These E-Flite 60-120 size main electric retracts look promissing.
Any actual inflight review of these available?
Andreas
http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...rod_id=EFLG400
I was looking on the net for some replacement retracts for my Hangar 9 Spitfire.
These E-Flite 60-120 size main electric retracts look promissing.
Any actual inflight review of these available?
Andreas
http://www.greathobbies.com/producti...rod_id=EFLG400
I think they will work!!! I am not going to start a war about ARF, but, some time the hardware that come with them are not good. The stock retracts that came with the Hangar 9 Spit was crap!! Before I lost my Hangar 9 Spit, ( do to Dx 7 lockout ), the housing was showing signs of crack in the casing. Plus like your-self, the push rods was to weak. Small load and they would bend. If you go with the E-Flite retracts, let us know the good and/or bad about them. Form the pictures, they look like they would drop in without any major mod. The plane look good in the air and you will enjoy her. Now if you would like to see smoke as you fly, put up some 15% heli-mix fuel. With the extra oil in the fuel, you will love low fly-bys and see smoke going over the wings and tail.
See is a keeper.
I may have to pick up one more and put it on the shelf.
Sonny
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Thanks Sonny,
during my lunch brake I actually went to that LHS and picked up the retracts. Online quantity only showed 1 in stock
and I didn't want to take a chance, especially when the LHS is only 10 min drive away from work.
I had a look at them and they look real sturdy made of aluminum and not plastic.
Hopefully the servos in them will have enough power and not stall out.
Then again, Hangar 9 advertises them on their web site for their AT6 Texan 60 and up to 120 size 15lbs as well. So it should work.
I will update once I got them installed.
Andreas
Happy building & flying.
during my lunch brake I actually went to that LHS and picked up the retracts. Online quantity only showed 1 in stock
and I didn't want to take a chance, especially when the LHS is only 10 min drive away from work.
I had a look at them and they look real sturdy made of aluminum and not plastic.
Hopefully the servos in them will have enough power and not stall out.
Then again, Hangar 9 advertises them on their web site for their AT6 Texan 60 and up to 120 size 15lbs as well. So it should work.
I will update once I got them installed.
Andreas
Happy building & flying.