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Old 05-13-2013, 03:38 PM
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Hi I bought this plane as is , I think the motor is a 26cc
weed wacker conversion but my problem is that I don't see
any where for cabanes or wires?? I know I have seen this set up
somewhere . I think it flew without them.. Cant anyone verify this?
The standoffs from the fuselage are the only wing support other then the rods
operating the servos from the bottom wing to the top wing . Has anyone ever owned this kit.
Thanks
David
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:15 PM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

I know some of Ace RC biplanes kits had no interplane struts. Some added them as they built the plane. Lazy Ace comes to mind but this doesn't quite fit as the bottom wing is shorter ,unless the builder made modifications.
Old 05-14-2013, 02:27 AM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

You mean no N-struts! The.cabanes are what holds the wing on.
Old 05-14-2013, 03:25 PM
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Ok n struts, what ever you want to call them
Who can Identify this kit ?? Can I just use wires ??
Old 05-14-2013, 05:40 PM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

If it's an AceRC kit (sorry, I can't really tell) some flew them without  struts while others added them for piece of mind and not turning it into a monoplane.  If you don't want to put struts on then wires would be the next best thing......in my opinion.
Old 05-15-2013, 03:12 AM
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ORIGINAL: flyinwalenda

If it's an AceRC kit (sorry, I can't really tell) some flew them without struts while others added them for piece of mind and not turning it into a monoplane. If you don't want to put struts on then wires would be the next best thing......in my opinion.
A 4-120 bipe ?

I would think that it needs the N-struts.
Old 05-15-2013, 08:07 AM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

If it originally flew without the interplane struts, then I would see no need to add them now. "The standoffs from the fuselage" are the cabane struts.

According to a story I once heard about the Fokker Dr1, the original plane was produced without interplane struts, but the pilots were so afraid to fly the plane that the manufacturer added the struts on later versions. I may have this story confused with the D7, but I do know that many of the Fokker planes did not have flying wires and depended upon a cantilever wing for structural support.
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

True, but one would be putting a lot of faith on the aging ring terminals and soldering job on the cabanes.  
Old 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

On most R/C biplanes including the one you picture, the wings are of cantilever design, and the inter-plane struts are just cosmetic, if your model had functional flying and landing wires then the inter-plane struts would be a necessity. A full size example would be the WWI Fokker Dr1 Triplane, it had cantilever wings, and struts added (but no flying wires)just to please the higher command.
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David, we can give you our opinions and the reasons for those opinions but in the end it's your airplane you have to do what you are comfortable with doing.

Mike
Old 05-15-2013, 04:22 PM
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Default RE: Help Identify this plane older biwing

ORIGINAL: tweedy

On most R/C biplanes including the one you picture, the wings are of cantilever design, and the inter-plane struts are just cosmetic, if your model had functional flying and landing wires then the inter-plane struts would be a necessity. A full size example would be the WWI Fokker Dr1 Triplane, it had cantilever wings, and struts added (but no flying wires)just to please the higher command.
The Fokker DR1 had wing failures later with the added interplane struts. The DR1 that did not have the struts was only a prototype. Everyone that entered service had them.

I personally would add them to this model, just to take the load off of the cabanes. Looks like a fun model. Would be cool to have ailerons on the top wing.

Also, interplanes struts can be used to get the wings incidence set perfectly at the outer sections of the wings. You could just fabricate some plates, out of plywood. Somewhat like the Ultiate bipe. Will give a little more side area.
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Ok Guys,

I went to the field yesterday and low and behold he comes a guy with a similar biwing plane.
no n struts and he fly it hard and fast just with the cabanes struts holding on the wing no wires either ..
I talked with him about my plane and he said wing
load is 1/2 then normal cause of 2 wings. He said it will fly fine without them if the incidence is correct.
I think the solder joints are fine. Imho solder joints don't break down with age.
I am going to fly her in about a month. I just maidened my Cap 232 and still trying to dial her in ..
Thanks everyone for the support and I let you know how it flys soon
Thanks
David
Old 05-20-2013, 09:47 AM
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No positive but it may be an Ace Four Star 120

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