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100MPH HPI RS4 3 EVO+ ????

Old 05-17-2013, 02:49 AM
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Funny some some guys have hit 100mph and I've ran 2.2sec in the 132ft with an .18
Thats a nice achievement CT but some of us, specially down here in Miami, have no interest in drag. We're more of a Bonneville Salt Flats kind of crew. As far as the 18 goes, I built a 95mph HPI with an 18TZ. It actually won and still holds the ISC record at 90mph for IC 4wd small block since 2009
Old 05-17-2013, 04:08 AM
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So 100 is not possible with an .18? And I would hear from some folks that it would, I've only seen .21's get it done.
Old 05-17-2013, 07:12 AM
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Im not sure. The car with the 18 was originally a 21 powered 105mph car and I just dropped an 18 in it and gearing to match only 2 weeks before the event. Its hard to say now since the motor was taken back out right after I got back but it would be interesting to find out.

If anyone out there would like to donate or loan me a fully modded 18TZ, I'd love to try. I still own the ISC car along with 3 more that are exactly like it.
Old 05-17-2013, 07:16 AM
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I have the modded os .18tz and if anyone has the gearing to lend me or tell me what gearing to use. Ill do it.
Old 05-17-2013, 03:04 PM
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well here i go to i need some one to lend me or let me borrow the winning power ball numbers
Old 05-17-2013, 03:23 PM
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Going fast does cost alot of money, I don't run this platform but man it sure is fun when you reach new milestones.
Old 05-18-2013, 03:55 AM
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Going fast does cost alot of money, I don't run this platform but man it sure is fun when you reach new milestones.

It all depends on what someone might consider "a lot of money". If youre talking about an entire new set up, then youre looking to spend a lot but since the Racer2 is far from a new model, I've found them as cheap as 40 bucks. Nice used motor with new conrod I can find sometimes for around 200, then gearing, servos, odds and ends. The cheapest I've built for myself was around 400 and the most expensive was a super nitro which was brand new in the box plus brand new motor, pipe and odds and ends was around 1500.
Old 05-18-2013, 10:42 AM
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I can see your point, I was basing my opinion off the platform I'm using, a savage. If you already have some knowledge on going fast that there saves money as you know what to buy and what not to. But as you know going fast means trial and error. What works for you doesn't mean it will work for another. Sharing knowledge is awesome as its free and saves time and headaches.

You wouldn't want to know how much I've spent turning a school bus into a Ferrari, but its a lot of fun

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Old 05-20-2013, 04:43 AM
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Knowing what to buy saves money, I'm about 600 into my RS4 3 evo and 400 of that is the engine.
102mph, done. (to be fair I use the same radio on 4 cars, just had to buy servos and a reciever)
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I just received my Ofna 19/26 pinion gear so I quickly removed my engine to replace it an once I out it on and tried to mesh with the 37/41 spur gears and realized how 1st gear is only being scratched so meaning I will definetly strip as I would try to launch. I remove the Ofna grad and replace it with my HPIs, I go shower and I'm thinking and thinking how it would fit. I came up with an idea if 19/26 pinion will not work with 37/41spur maybe I can use a bigger spur to reach it. So as soon as I finish showering I run to the garage to try a bigger spur gear and BINGO!!! I tried a 41/47 spurs onto it and it was a perfect match. So instead of using spur gears by the set if 4, I would have to go by counts of 6. So I will be using 37/43spur gears and my great luck I do have a 43 in my tool box.

Coming tomorrow I will be replacing all gearing and see what speeds I can get and will post vids too.
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I just received my Ofna 19/26 pinion gear so I quickly removed my engine to replace it an once I out it on and tried to mesh with the 37/41 spur gears and realized how 1st gear is only being scratched so meaning I will definetly strip as I would try to launch. I remove the Ofna grad and replace it with my HPIs, I go shower and I'm thinking and thinking how it would fit. I came up with an idea if 19/26 pinion will not work with 37/41spur maybe I can use a bigger spur to reach it. So as soon as I finish showering I run to the garage to try a bigger spur gear and BINGO!!! I tried a 41/47 spurs onto it and it was a perfect match. So instead of using spur gears by the set if 4, I would have to go by counts of 6. So I will be using 37/43spur gears and my great luck I do have a 43 in my tool box.

Coming tomorrow I will be replacing all gearing and see what speeds I can get and will post vids too.
OFNA makes a 19/26? Which car is this from of the part number? If you dont mind sharing. Or is that the LOSI bell?
Old 05-22-2013, 04:21 AM
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That's right. Losi!!

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Old 05-22-2013, 04:27 AM
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You'll find this out when you run it, as I've tried a far spaced two speed like you're trying.
when it hits second it's going to bog the engine and not accelerate anymore.
If you have a high gear ratio that is... I had better results keeping just a two tooth difference between 1st and second and lowering the ratio by way of changing pulleys on my old RS4. But in the end single speed proved to be the most consistent.
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Yes , I had thought about the shifting and it is a big difference. But maybe by adjusting 1st gear to shift at a very high RPM might help out.
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I actually saw a LOSI bell on an RS4 with a 2 speed for the first time this sunday and it ran really good. He had it shifting at about a regular shift point. He had a 21 in it thought so that might have had something to do with it. I've been using the LOSi threaded bell but with only the 26 pinion for many years now. Never gave the 2 speed a shot. Might have to do so.
Old 05-22-2013, 07:31 PM
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Guys I didn't get to work on my car today. Hopefully I can get it done by this weekend.
Old 05-24-2013, 05:25 AM
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Ive put the gears on and seems to mesh pretty good. Second gear gas a closer fit than first does but will seem to work ok.

Will try to run this afternoon
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Default RE: 100MPH HPI RS4 3 EVO+ ????

What kind of distance are you guys running at to achieve these speeds?
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I never measured, but I would say I can hardly see the car.
400ft maybe?
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Hmm being 1/8 with my savage I'm around 500-600ft now, so 1/10 I can see that. Much lighter car with stronger motors, gets up to speed quicker.

I've been reading this thread and many others on top speed onroad cars. I'm seriously beginning to consider jumping in. I've got the motors and being a huge HPI fan I think the choice is clear, RS4. But is belt drive better than shaft driven? I would think shaft would be more reliable.
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I believe that shaft is more reliable but I think you can get more speed out of the belt driven rs4 due to that you can change the pulleys for more speed
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I think they can both be equally fast, but there is a difference in roll resistance for sure.
With the shaft drive rs43 I can just tap on the car and it rolls freely, I can't do that with my belt drive cars.
Also with pebbles around the shaft drive is more reliable and IMO stronger, I can't count how many rear belts I've been through.
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The Losi 19/26 pinion and the HPI 37/44 spur gears work great. No bogging or problems when shifting into second. The only problem I was running into was wheels and tires. The HPI belted tires blew out on me, it unglewed and a chunk of tire flew off. Couldn't get good traction with foams but took care of the job. Although I did run into a curb ad damaged my carbon fiber chassis.

Watch this video and there's 3 other vids I also uploaded today.

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What kind of distance are you guys running at to achieve these speeds?
If you look into my video I'm in a school parking lot where the band practices, it's 100 yard marked on the floor and I think I need a bit more room to catch more speed and stoping distance.

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