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Old 06-01-2013, 05:03 PM
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On your link should the HPP-22 be 1.14(1) you have it listed as 1.14(0)
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Ken CZ, dump the mix and rename the second channel AIL. Then any trim action will affect both Channels named AIL the same way. On the other wing use Ail2.
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ORIGINAL: 357magnum On your link should the HPP-22 be 1.14(1) you have it listed as 1.14(0)
You are quite correct, the recent update 14th May 2013 was not adjusted on all related FAQ pages..

Please refer HPP-22 program file V1.14(1) now available.

"HPP-22 v1.14(1) : New Firmware updates for HPP-22

HPP-22 Software Version 1.14(1)
H4 New Firmware Version 1.02(1)

How to update H4 firmware - manual
for those not yet aware of the charger:
. Hitec H4 DC 4 Port Smart Charger

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Hi
I,m now in the process of trying to download the new version of the HPP-22 ,................. it,s in a langauge I really don,t understand .
And whats worst ,...................... I,ve already removed the older version from my computer [&o][&o][]

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Usually when you open it up you select the language you want. English etc.
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ORIGINAL: Michel Hi I,m now in the process of trying to download the new version of the HPP-22 ,................. it,s in a langauge I really don,t understand . And whats worst ,...................... I,ve already removed the older version from my computer [&o][&o][]
Michel
Please refer to the screenshots attached,
. . HPP-22 Software Version V1.14(1) 14 May 2013 (Details and pictorial "How to" install)
with explanation, copy attached hereto, of the "foreign text':
(in effect that the ISP/Server is down through either upgrade or overlimit for the day)
Copies of other screens also attached which show the new windows and text.

With regard to being unable to upload the new program at any time, please PM and will give
link to a copy in dropbox.
(not provded here as it will take me another 5 minutes to upload to Dropbox)

Later: some users may also experience the old "Pop Up Alert, as attached,
HPP-22 Firmware Upgrade Version V.101(0) to V1.01(0)"
This has happened previously when further additions have been pending,
just check version shown bottom right of window, then hit the "No" button as per screenshot below.

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Hi

AT ,..................... where would we be without you . Fortunate for me I was able to download the program in English ,...................... I,m good to go .

On another note : I have two optima receivers I just can not bind , nor can I update the receivers . What the heck do I do next ?

Michel

P.S. Sorry AT , thats " without you " , not " with you " .
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ORIGINAL: Michel Hi
AT ,..................... where would we be without you . Fortunate for me I was able to download the program in English ,...................... I,m good to go .
On another note : I have two optima receivers I just can not bind , nor can I update the receivers . What the heck do I do next ?
Michel P.S. Sorry AT , thats " without you " , not " with you "
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Hitec HPP-22 2.4GHz Programmer - Manual, FAQ - How to Install & Use (with screenshots).
extract:
"Optima 7ch & 9ch Transceiver Firmware Update
1. Open HPP-22 Program
2. Connect HPP-22 - wait
3. Select Receiver > Optima 7/9
(Screen will display sequential pictures of Optima 7 & 9 showing connections)
4. Connect Optima "Data" port to "P1" of HPP-22.
5. Connect a fully charged battery pack to battery port of Optima RX and turn on.
. SPC blanking plug must be inserted unless a second power source is connected to SPC port.
6. Screen will display/describe activity. (if no link with 9ch, retry connecting battery to ch6)
7. Do Not turn off / disconnect Optima RX`until transfer bar is complete and instruction received to confirm upgrade is to be finalised.
8. After confirming upgrade is to be finalised, and confirmation is received, turn off battery.
Disconnect lead from Optima and only then either close program or select new process:
Upgrade another Optima from step 3, a Spectra Pro Module or Aurora or Transfer files from an Aurora
NB: Connection must be performed in above order,
(If Optima turned on to soon. it may not be recognised.)


NB: If the data port can be accessed, built in transceivers do not need to be removed from a model,
see information regarding use of extensions:
Optima Transceiver - Update Firmware in situ."

1. Check the SPC plug is inserted correctly.
2. Do not use ESC/BEC, ensure a fully charged receiver battery is being used.
(a 4 cell battery box for use with alkaline AA & a switch harness is enclosed with an A9 for the purpose of
updating/linking Optima used with EP models)
"Aurora 9 - Radio System Includes - Stylus, Screen cleaner, Flight Preserver, Battery Holder/Switch
for ID Setup in lieu if using an ESC/BEC
& BODA Holder - see pictures."
3. If link is still not established with station, insert battery switch harness into the SPC port,
this provides power to the receiver only bypasses any drain by bad servo or other connections.
Be carefull, reverse polarity will damage the transceiver.
4. Some 9ch Optima for whatever reason may still not update, in which case unit must be referred to:
Hitec Warranty & Service - homepage.
Note: Hitec USA only services North/South America and Canada.
"Hitec USA customer service department is available Monday through Friday*
from 7am- 4:30 pm Pacific time. Reach us at 858.748.8440 or
[email protected] any time you have a question"
• If you are from a country that is outside North and South America, please contact the
Hitec distributor in your country for service.


ex Hitec USA Support Forum Sticky:
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Hi At
I forgot to mention ( sorry ) ,.......................... there 6 channels receivers , not transceivers , " NO DATA " port .

Michel
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Sure they are... they send voltage telemetry back to the TX; you just can't add the additional sensors with the sensor station.

Mike.
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Michel....read the instructions....LOL
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ORIGINAL: Michel Hi At
I forgot to mention ( sorry ) ,.......................... there 6 channels receivers , not transceivers , " NO DATA " port . Michel
The Optima 6ch whilst they are transceivers in that they transmit battery voltage back to module,
they do not have a Data port, refer:
. Optima 6, 7 & 9 Ch Transceiver Update V2.02 07Oct11
(•Improved reboot and recovery methods after severe RF interference.) - Requires Module V3.01 and Aurora V1.07(2) +

extract:
"Update of your Optima 7 & 9 Transceivers can now commence, see attached..
(•Improved reboot and recovery methods after severe RF interference.)
(already 3.30pm Monday here & noon in Korea)

. Update 05 Aug 2011:
"Optima 6's will be able to be updated in the near future but will have to be sent in to do so.
"Don't send them yet though... we are waiting on the jig. - Mike."
Oct 2011: Jig is available in USA, email for procedures first:
Hitec Warranty & Service
Note: Hitec USA only services North/South America and Canada.
All other countries see appropriate distributor for service.
• If you are from a country that is outside North and South America, please contact the
Hitec distributor in your country for service.

. Upgrade Optima 6 - Is It required?
Question was put to QA Korea 22Nov11 with response:
"Doubt upgrade would impact on Optima 6 used with EP Models - as advised, change related
primarily to interference caused by petrol ignition systems. "

How old is the O6? it may well have the latest firmware, see last para above.

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Hi

Okay ,................ youre all laughing at me , thats OK .... Most likely at the end of all this , I,ll say I had a brain fart . ( I,m getting old , and it , " SUCKS "
I promise I,ll check this out . As mentioned , they won,t bind . I,ll follow AT,s instructions to the letter .

I,LL BE BACK,

Thanks guys

Michel
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sorry "off topic"Is there a way to change the notification from instant to daily. I removed all of my subscriptions on RCU because my email wouldn't shut up.my aurora 9 will be here Thursday. looking forward to get it set up and flying with it. currently using a JR 9503
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ORIGINAL: dr_boone sorry "off topic"Is there a way to change the notification from instant to daily.
I removed all of my subscriptions on RCU because my email wouldn't shut up.my aurora 9 will be here Thursday.
looking forward to get it set up and flying with it. currently using a JR 9503
Click remove subscription as shown attached screen shot.
Refresh the page then click to add subscription and select daily.

As a new user, please check out all the headings under:
Hitec USA Support Forum Sticky:
Aurora 9, AFHSS 2.4Ghz Module, Transceivers_Receivers & Telemetry
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I need some help setting a throttle curve for my 50cc and 100cc Planes.
They all reach max. rpm when the throttle stick is at about 60-70% towards full throttle.

I have the Aurora 9 manual and it tells you how to set up a throttle curve BUT there is no explanation of how it works or what the numbers mean-

This is my understanding of the basic premise:If the Throttle level on the A9 is at 50% (1/2 way open) then the servo arm will have moved 50% of the distance between end points.

If I want the servo arm to move LESS at that same 1/2 open throttle setting on TX then when I go to Throttle curve I would set the value at say 30% meaning the servo arm will have moved 30% of the total distance between end points.

IS this correct?

This throttle behavior of gasoline engines is quite common and a lot of folks just ignore the issue but I would like to have my throttle lever on TX correspond with the RPM's ( or at least closer) the engine is putting out.

Any help, discussion, first hand examples, links to forums, videos, etc. are appreciated.

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ORIGINAL: Ken Cz,
I need some help setting a throttle curve for my 50cc and 100cc Planes.
They all reach max. rpm when the throttle stick is at about 60-70% towards full throttle.
I have the Aurora 9 manual and it tells you how to set up a throttle curve BUT there is no explanation of how it works or what the numbers mean-
This is my understanding of the basic premise:If the Throttle level on the A9 is at 50% (1/2 way open)
then the servo arm will have moved 50% of the distance between end points.
If I want the servo arm to move LESS at that same 1/2 open throttle setting on TX then when I go to Throttle curve I would set the value at say 30%
meaning the servo arm will have moved 30% of the total distance between end points.
IS this correct?
This throttle behavior of gasoline engines is quite common and a lot of folks just ignore the issue but I would like to have my throttle lever on TX
correspond with the RPM's ( or at least closer) the engine is putting out.
Any help, discussion, first hand examples, links to forums, videos, etc. are appreciated.
Throttle level on any Tx relates to the setup of the arm, carburettor rotor and other mechanical factors not to mention that
different brands of Tx and servo have differing center points.
If using a digital servo, reset to factory default and ensure arm is set to 90 degrees to case, could be slight differences between
same servo to be adjusted at initial setup with sub trim.
Carburettor rotor arm frequently needs to be loosened and reset:
. Carburettor Throttle Linkage - How to set up GP & Petrol models with throttle curve.
extract:
"Mechanical linkage is important when setting up any servo so as to obtain correct throws at both sides of the movement.
Desert Aircraft Australia provide:
. Throttle Linkage Setup also presents how to include throttle curve - video
. Throttle Linkages for Model Aircraft Engines"
see also:
. Aurora 9 - Throttle Curve - Throttle Expo & P-Mix Set-Up. [NB: Hitec TX use Minus (-) Expo wherever JR/Spektrum use Plus (+) Expo]
.
Aurora 9 - Throttle Cut & Idle Down Set-Up.. Throttle Cut Programming - Step by Step.
. Aurora 9 - Throttle Control - Glow Driver &/or Ignition On/Off post #2239
. Aurora 9 - Throttle Lock (Hold) & Transmit Yes-No Features & Use.
...
How to use Icon and/or Switch method which operates when in transmit mode only.

ex Hitec USA Support Forum Sticky:
Aurora 9, AFHSS 2.4Ghz Module, Transceivers_Receivers & Telemetry
- FAQ, Setups & Tips

Much more information available under sub sections
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"Fuel - Diesel, Glow Fuel & Smoke Oil Facts & FAQ + Fuel Tank installations"
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"Radio Systems, Accessories, Alterations and FAQ" at
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what are the pro's and con's on the RPM sensors. magnetic vs. optical. I want to setup telemetry in my 40cc gas extra 300 and don't know what to buy.I only want RPM and engine temp.I received my radio yesterday and have it setup in a 48" foamy to check it out hope to fly tomorrow. So far my first impression is good.David
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I have the optical version and have used it on several airplanes over the past year or so. Works fine. Cross checked it with hand held optical rpm meter. Never used the magnetic.
If you do get it just remember if you try to check your system inside with 60hz light flicker you will get erratic readings. Flash light works good inside garage.

I also have the TM Voice thingie on my Tx and it is very handy during intial aircraft check out. Just remember to fly the plane while you listen to "*****ing Betty" sound off with "speed..., altitude, rpm...." etc!

I don't keep my TM stuff on a plane. Iswap it around when Iget a new plane setup to verify data and then take it out when Iam satisfied.
Good luck


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I don't keep my TM stuff on a plane. I swap it around when I get a new plane setup to verify data and then take it out when I am satisfied.
What a great idea!
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A.T.
I appreciate the help and have looked at most of the links you provided however they do no provide me with a real world understanding or example of how to set up my planes. Is my understanding of it as posted in the original post below correct?

I am looking for a step by step "method' of how to go about it - perhaps another member that is currently flying Giant Scale w/gas with the same issue can tell me the process they used to set up Throttle Curve in 'real life' and provide me an actual example - not just what buttons to push on the TX.

Thanks!
Ken

ORIGINAL: A.T.




ORIGINAL: Ken Cz,
I need some help setting a throttle curve for my 50cc and 100cc Planes.
They all reach max. rpm when the throttle stick is at about 60-70% towards full throttle.
I have the Aurora 9 manual and it tells you how to set up a throttle curve BUT there is no explanation of how it works or what the numbers mean-
This is my understanding of the basic premise:If the Throttle level on the A9 is at 50% (1/2 way open)
then the servo arm will have moved 50% of the distance between end points.
If I want the servo arm to move LESS at that same 1/2 open throttle setting on TX then when I go to Throttle curve I would set the value at say 30%
meaning the servo arm will have moved 30% of the total distance between end points.
IS this correct?
This throttle behavior of gasoline engines is quite common and a lot of folks just ignore the issue but I would like to have my throttle lever on TX
correspond with the RPM's ( or at least closer) the engine is putting out.
Any help, discussion, first hand examples, links to forums, videos, etc. are appreciated.
Throttle level on any Tx relates to the setup of the arm, carburettor rotor and other mechanical factors not to mention that
different brands of Tx and servo have differing center points.
If using a digital servo, reset to factory default and ensure arm is set to 90 degrees to case, could be slight differences between
same servo to be adjusted at initial setup with sub trim.
Carburettor rotor arm frequently needs to be loosened and reset:
. http://Carburettor Throttle Linkage ...hrottle curve.
extract:
''Mechanical linkage is important when setting up any servo so as to obtain correct throws at both sides of the movement.
Desert Aircraft Australia provide:
. http://<u><font color=''#00265e''>Th...tup</font></u> also presents how to include throttle curve - video
. http://<u><font color=''#00265e''>Th...nes</font></u>''
see also:
. http://Aurora 9 - Throttle Curve - T...e Expo & P-Mix Set-Up. [NB: Hitec TX use Minus (-) Expo wherever JR/Spektrum use Plus (+) Expo]
.
Aurora 9 - Throttle Cut & Idle Down Set-Up.. Throttle Cut Programming - Step by Step.
. Aurora 9 - Throttle Control - Glow Driver &/or Ignition On/Off post #2239
. http://<font size=''2''>Aurora 9 - T... Yes-No</font> Features & Use.
...
How to use Icon and/or Switch method which operates when in transmit mode only.

ex Hitec USA Support Forum Sticky:
Aurora 9, AFHSS 2.4Ghz Module, Transceivers_Receivers & Telemetry
- FAQ, Setups & Tips

Much more information available under sub sections
''Carburettors, Tuning & Performance Testing, Glow Plugs.''
''Fuel - Diesel, Glow Fuel & Smoke Oil Facts & FAQ + Fuel Tank installations''
below
''Radio Systems, Accessories, Alterations and FAQ'' at
Alan's Hobby, Model & RC FAQ Web Links

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ORIGINAL: Ken Cz

A.T.
I appreciate the help and have looked at most of the links you provided however they do no provide me with a real world understanding or example of how to set up my planes. Is my understanding of it as posted in the original post below correct?

I am looking for a step by step ''method' of how to go about it - perhaps another member that is currently flying Giant Scale w/gas with the same issue can tell me the process they used to set up Throttle Curve in 'real life' and provide me an actual example - not just what buttons to push on the TX.

Thanks!
Ken
You probably need to find a local club for assistance.
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I am a local club member but these days many folks fly Electric and the old timers (like me) fly a lot of Glow - not many of us also into Giant Scale Gas power. Another fellow and I have been working together but not having much luck using his new Futaba 14 chnl.
No matter what we entered into the Throttle curve option it did not affect the RPM at any point per the RPM meter and pull force. And yes, the Throttle Curve option was turned "ON". This was real time testing with the engine running.

All I am asking for is a simple example of what other folks have done on DA50's and above to get a nice even throttle response.Ken
ps. I have yet to see a simple explanation or example of what or how 'throttle curve' works - I have no problem with the TX, just real world application of the feature!


ORIGINAL: bgw45


ORIGINAL: Ken Cz

A.T.
I appreciate the help and have looked at most of the links you provided however they do no provide me with a real world understanding or example of how to set up my planes. Is my understanding of it as posted in the original post below correct?

I am looking for a step by step ''method' of how to go about it - perhaps another member that is currently flying Giant Scale w/gas with the same issue can tell me the process they used to set up Throttle Curve in 'real life' and provide me an actual example - not just what buttons to push on the TX.

Thanks!
Ken
You probably need to find a local club for assistance.
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ORIGINAL: Ken Cz
I am a local club member but these days many folks fly Electric and the old timers (like me) fly a lot of Glow
- not many of us also into Giant Scale Gas power. Another fellow and I have been working together but not having
much luck using his new Futaba 14 chnl.
No matter what we entered into the Throttle curve option it did not affect the RPM at any point per the RPM meter and pull force.
And yes, the Throttle Curve option was turned "ON". This was real time testing with the engine running.
All I am asking for is a simple example of what other folks have done on DA50's and above to get a nice even throttle
response.
Ken
ps. I have yet to see a simple explanation or example of what or how 'throttle curve' works -
I have no problem with the TX, just real world application of the feature!

Please refer:
Throttle Curve explained - refer post #17 of comprehenxive thread..
With own Quadra engines 35 <106( twin), did not use computerised curves being reason cannot immediately provide answer,
apart from the links, that you desire.
Gas Engines set same as glow engines with attention to the mechanical linkage of both carburettor horn and servo horn.
Most small petrol engines have a simple Walbro carb and if that is correctly tuned, then user quickly learns the characteristics and sets linkage accordingly.
. Gas Motors - Set Up,Running, Trouble Shooting
. Single Cylinder Gas Engine Tuning
. Walbro WB-3A Carburetor Rebuild Instructions

Alan Tong
Alan's Hobby, Model & RC FAQ Web Links

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Old 06-07-2013, 05:58 PM
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Michel
 
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Default RE: New Hitec Aurora 9-Channel 2.4Ghz Radio System

Hi

Well ,.......... I seem to be in a spot . I have two Optima 6 lite , receivers , that just won,t bind . I get a faint blue and a constant flashing red . Yes ,.............. I watched mike,s video and double checked that I did the procedure properly . This is Mike,s video :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MNLJYZAtSk .

And they still won,t bind . I,ve crossed my tee,s and doted my i,s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MNLJYZAtSk

Michel


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