Pepperpete

Well I spent a few hours with good old google and still can't get a straight answer. Can someone please help with the above question. The reason for the shampoo bottle is the shape. It's pretty much perfect for what I'm looking to do but it won't be any good if the kero just destroys the bottle.

Sorry guys I truly tried to search for this but had no luck at all.

Kevin_W

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I used a shampoo bottle inside the drop tank on my Top Gun Interceptor many years ago.
I found that a large Pert Plus shampoo bottle was the perfect fit inside a BVM F-16 centerline drop tank, and it gave me an extra 28 ounces (or so) extra fuel for my very thirsty FD3-67.

BarracudaHockey

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I would seriously doubt there's any difference but you could always put kero in it for a couple of days and leave it sit

Pepperpete

That sounds about exactly what I'm planning to do...

Keep it coming!

Rush!

i've a friend who uses them for smoke tanks (Diesel) and his models havn't had any problems that i know of

mongo

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i used to use em for nitro fuel tanks, back in the ICDF days.
some really good shapes available in that arena.

sysiek

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The best shaped bottle was the one from tiki torch fuel ,best shape for falcon 120 and 3 sizes to find 50oz 64oz and I think 108oz the bottle is strong and tested for kerosine ,don't use the cup for the plumbing just do the opening on the bottom center to fit the rubber fittings and go fly.

GrayUK

Yep
you can use them...no problem.
been doing it for years.

Paul G

PaulD

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Glenn,

I made a custom tank for the Reaction using a Windex refill bottle. I wanted to expand it in to better fit the available space so I made a cap fitting for it, pumped it up to about 2 psi and started shaping it with a heat gun - slowly until I got it where I wanted. Took me three bottles to get it right but it worked out well in the end. It's been a few years now and 2 more owners and it's still going strong.

PaulD

Pepperpete

Thanks Paul.

Well this is fantastic news and just made my life MUCH easier.

Henke Torphammar

Schampoo bottle with a standard fuelstopper modified with larger washers works very well. Infact I have yet to find a container that won't work with jetfuel/diesel except for maybe a Mc Donalds cup ;-)

RCFlyerDan

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Since you aren't from the USA and don't have to comply with USA AMA regs. for insurance, it can be your choice. Other then making sure you comply with Canadian rules. Truthfully, as a USA AMA Turbine CD, that does training and signing guys' off for the waiver, I don't like to see either, due to puncture resistance in a wreck. I prefer the Kevlar tanks first, and then fiberglass/composite tanks.

AMA doesn't say that either can't be used, but I just don't like to see them.
READ #8 of:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/510-a.pdf

BarracudaHockey

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That's a fair point.

Dan, are you going to be at the TRAC Big Bird event on t he 29th?

RCFlyerDan

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They don't allow jets. I do have my 44% Giles, so could take that to the event. Right now I am having health issues and on pain meds, and kind of grounded myself. I am feeling better, and not waking up in pain or dizzy. But, I haven't flown for more then a month or two. Want to go flying this week at Area 52 with the Giles, before I take any of my jets up again.

MTK

There are only a couple material types thatcan beused for either pop or shampoo bottles. Polyesteris the predominant type of resin used in these due to its toughness and clarity. The material itself is tougher than either PE or PP which means the makers will use thinner walls, which is lighter and perfect for model use.

I use water and juice bottles for gas tanks in my planes; I sellnylon fittings and gas line, all compatible with gasoline, diesel, kerosene and most all parafinic fuels used.

Regarding toughness in a crash, epoxy/kevlar possibly has an edge because of its thickness. Polyester bottles are thin walled and are tough against blunt material penetration, but will not resist sharp shards as well as a kevlar/epoxy tank might.

argyris

Here is what i found for fuel tank.It is plastic bottle not from carbonated drink.It is 500ml.Then i searched and i found the company that manufactures and i take 150 pieces .The shape is like saddle tank!The weight is 34gr L 18cm W 8.5cm H 4,5cm.It is very strong i destroyed a piece for testing and withstood enough.Now I want to find out how to connect them in series or parallel? I need 4 tank 2lt. Which way is better?I will do some tests with the two ways.

RCFlyerDan

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Nice! When you crushed the one bottle, was it sealed? Please remember that, other then the over flow, it will be a sealed system. This means that the extra air or fuel pressure, while being crushed, has to go some where? Will the lid blow off? Fuel line blow off? Or the tank split? Just thoughts to consider. Nothing right or wrong.

argyris

Yes,!! stayed sealed.I crumple hard and stayed sealed.�or torn or crack!I fill it with air pneumatic and reshaped!

RCFlyerDan

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OK! Argyris!
For all of our learning experience! Hypothetically, would you mind setting up the next test, since you are set up with the bottles and testing of them?
Plumb a bottle as a tank that you would use for a jet fuel system, as you have in previous pictures. For Saftey concern, fill the bottle/fuel tank half full of water. Have the vent going unrestricted to the out side, and have the main fuel line restricted, as going to the fuel pump at idle(because the pilot knows he is crashing, but doesn't turn the engine off). How much restriction should be at least half of the volume, if unrestricted fuel line to the pump. NOW, take a sledge hammer and hit it hard, with SAFTY Gogles on!!
See what happens! Again, I don't know the results, and thus asking to learn! Dan

argyris

Yes I intend to check a full bottle and see when i hit it.I try to take also video and photos.

RCFlyerDan

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Cool Beans!! That will show a true impact senerio of a wreck and thus a possible fire.

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i have used a lot of shampoo bottles and other small bottles from the drug stores for nitro engines no trouble

RCFlyerDan

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Ok for Nitro! But, the conversation is about shampoo/soda/ or other bottles for Jet fuel, which tends to be more explosive upon impact, especially around a jet turbine that is at 550 C at idle upon impact. So, not relevant to the conversation.

argyris

The video is ready hahaha!!

RCFlyerDan

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Good Deal!! Are you taking bets on what happened?